Metagaming in EVE - Page 44

On June 17 2009 07:25 BeJe77 wrote:
Bill,

The reason why Trium is so good at what they do is even before when they owned Dek they excelled at skirmish tactics... i.e. attack fast and hard using smaller ships.

They attract people who just want to x up and go shoot somebody, they are one of few alliances who have lot of great people and just want to shoot stuff. As compared to a lot of alliances who just carebear and fight when their sov is in question. So there is a pretty big gap between skill levels of NC and Trium.

We just fired 27 doomsdays in 49-. It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen.

A carrier can apparently tank 16 of them. Expect to see some fraps of this, we've got a few people that recorded it.

Over the fight, it was:

Solar Fleet / UNL / Triumvirate / AAA / GBC versus mostly NC entities, with a smattering of PL. Standings were momentary, and have since been removed. The WI/Solar fight had been quite interesting, but when RZR/MM got involved there was only one way it could go. So we joined in just for a bit of fun- it was our idea (me/molle), there was no contacting for help by any of the other involved entities.

AAA had 50ish snipe hacs/logistics. GBC had about a 100 frigate man gang. Tri had 60ish bs/dictors. Solar had a bs heavy gang.
Hostiles had 80ish capitals, with roughly 200 support. Local reached 600ish, with roughly 50/50 split.

There were some standings headaches caused by this, considering we had some friendly and hostile alliances working together, and as such our co-ordination wasn't perfect either. In the end, I don't care about k/d ratio, was a fun fight for the most of it (pre-DT was insanely laggy, but we were only fighting for 10 minutes then).

For those who do care about k/d:

Tri lost 13bs, 13 dictors.
AAA lost 20 hacs/logistics.
Unsure on BoB losses, nor solar.

Also don't have a clue about kills

Hello friends.

Today was an epic day in sunny Geminate.

After the solar towers were RF in US prime on friday night/saturday morning, we knew that they would be the basis for what would be the proverbial clutch time for k25. After losing the 0550 tower from the other day, SOLAR was poised to take control of the system by 6-17.

An alarm clock CTA was called for Sunday guided by the RF timers and anticipation was quite high leading into this morning.

Everyone from everywhere showed up, there was much explosions and it was overall fantastic fun. Who knew Geminate on a Sunday would be the place to be lol.

Anyway, all 3 solar towers were pew'd and popped, replaced with WI towers. Solar has 1 pos that remains coming out on Monday.

http://www.wi-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=41940

Last Solar tower has been eliminated. There was no fight for it. The only fight was pre-DT at the cyno jammer, where both sides lost a number of Dreads.

RA is mostly focusing on Etherium, as they evacuating south insmother and scalding pass atm.

The R-6 constellation is ironically the best defended RA space atm, as they launched about 60+ large towers here. In order to do that, they stripped many towers in insmother and scalding (station systems were left with 2-3 larges there) so say our pain in loop is joy of other alliances picking on RA space. We ofc will focus on these vacated areas as well, as there is no hurry to take loop back, plus insmother is nice land for isk making.

Another level of the war is economics. Outside of the super alliances with many r64 moons or t2 bpo´s, isk can really screw alliances expenses in long run. That RA has no high end moons left atm, is big help to us in long run, and you can see it by different levels of towers deployment at the beginning of war and now.

We suffered hard as well, loosing i would say 100+ larges hurts, especially that ER had no highends at all, and isk comes out of ratting. But we keeping our reserves, but ofc we carefully choose where our assets will go and dont throw isk out of window

Ironically, the Loop is one of the poorest constellations of Etherium Reach. The mean security rating is about -0.5. There's no Arkonor there at all, and almost no Bistot. The rats are mainly battlecruiser and single-BS spawns. Since they're Drones, of course, they provide no bounty ISK or module loot.

If RA actually does want to trade Insmother for the Loop, I can't imagine that the reasons are economic.

I think it has more to do with strategic value that the actual isk making potential of the space. If RA do pull back to the loop you will probably find it next to impossible to dislodge them without 24 hour CTA's and allot of help from friends.

Meanwhile, UNL had a standings reset. Ony the following alliances are still blue to them:
Goonswarm
Legion of xXDeathXx
Rebelion Alliance
Red Alliance
Solar Fleet
Solar Wing
Shadow of xXDeathXx
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
Kraftwerk
Ultima Ratio
Varagians

On June 17 2009 12:42 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
What a mess. Last I checked, RA and xDx are fighting IRC, while Solar is supporting IRC. Meanwhile -A- working with Solar and apparently UNL against NC, who are currently blue with goons, who are blue with UNL.. seriously wtf. And I keep wondering what TCF will do if they have to choose between being part of the Redswarm Federation or the Northern Coalition.

Over the fight, it was:

Solar Fleet / UNL / Triumvirate / AAA / GBC versus mostly NC entities...

I forgot to post a war update this morning because we were too busy leaning back and watching the majority of KenZoku's remaining towers in Querious turn into puffs of pretty smoke.

By now you already know that Sir Molle has announced the withdrawal of RKZ from 49, after only four of their towers were destroyed and replaced with stagers. After publishing this on CAOD like the helpful sort I am, an all-out rout began among GKC forces as they scrambled to evacuate.

Unfortunately for them, we had 27 titans with which to camp 49, which we set off in an amazing display of doomsday fireworks. Everything has been bubbled and locked down since then. Since downtime and through the day, 22 large towers will come out of reinforced; all have been destroyed without resistance thus far. Late tonight/PST we have another 5, then the final bout of tower killing is tomorrow starting at 16:00.

There's been no resistance but we blew up 3 carriers this morning who got bumped out of ****cages or off the station.

Once 49 is fully purged, we still have a few targets in Querious and Delve we need to clean up. 1-SMEB, those Drunk and Stoned guys, and a few random towers there and there; I think EXE still has 6 towers and a Sov3 in AO- in Querious, which is dumb.

Congratulations, ******. It's not entirely over, since XXXXXXXXXXX hasn't sung an aria yet, but it's getting damn close.

dbp:


The Conclusion

GoonSwarm are afraid to engage us in thier own territory. Like so many before them they have gone on the offensive in another territory while we dismantle their homeland.

War Fatigue is showing already with a drop in the number of suicide pilots into S-U. They told us they love it but they don't appear to be loving it very much right now.

Shortly we will begin the removal of every pos in syndicate.

The Goons 0.0 dream is over.

On June 18 2009 00:21 BeJe77 wrote:
From my experience yeah I can say it with 100% certainty.

MM/RZR will never reset each other we have been allies for like forever? TCF came up there to keep Dek stable and are part of us now. We, TCF/RZR/MM will never reset each other. That is already three power houses of eve being napped together.

PL as good as they are will never reset goons because they need them. As soon as a bigger entity attacks they will be fucked, not because of skill but blobing. They might reset the NC which they will but goons? Not until they get more people into them. But they have strict recruitment like BoB once had 3-4yrs ago.

Down south you have -A- who'd be foolish to reset anymore down there just because now they have 2 power-blocks to counter.

Drone Regions have been blue w/ each other for long time already hence another power block.

Two of the four power blocks will no doubt set up pacts where they will not attack each others territories i.e. NC/Goon blocks

As soon as one block becomes a threat all the other blocks will NAP together to crush the opposing block, for examples look at former BoB.

All we will have again is the same blocks holding the same turf while there is no way in hell any new alliance will be able to make claim for 0.0. Which in essence is one of the major problems we have in EvE today. The older alliances in 0.0 just have it too good especially income wise and not to mention their naps for any other alliance to come in and to try make a stake.... The only way for you to get any space is suck up and pay rent to a bigger entity.

This is one of the things a lot of people hope will change when CCP introduces the new Sov mechanics they are working on. Hopefully this time around it will be impossible for entities to hold a lot of space and make it harder on them so that smaller entities can make space claims as well.

On June 19 2009 00:27 wswordsmen wrote:

You realize that is a goon alt since they stole the BoB name for themselves.