Metagaming in EVE - Page 43

i think i might move out to the west coast, i didn't see a single money-obsessed yuppie for the four days i was in portland

various other attractions: free public transportation, ubiquitous yoga (not such a fan of ashtanga but it was a hell of a workout), and books books books. and beer.

best of all, unlike my vegas vacation, i have returned to find that we spent all day 0wning rkz, sysk and romulans, rather than having the alliance be on fire

updates tomorrow morning to cover 6/11 -> 6/15, 6/11 to 6/13 was basically 'ride bikes woo' though

Pre-DT battle report from 5C-, an RA station system part of one of their two Insmother sov4's.

All their towers were put into reinforced a couple days ago by combined Atlas/Aggro/UK/byrn forces. Today all 11 were coming out starting 0800 eve time. We formed up same time as RA, expecting them to try get into system before we were fully formed. Our pilots were on the ball though, and before RA sat ready on the XIX ragna Katie Price, we already had 300+ friendlies in system from the aforementioned alliances.

Options were few for RA+friends, and with 3 Atlas titans in local active we knew for sure that they were gonna bridge in on a POS at one point. So we kept our dictors ready and informed Titans to warp to the cyno the second they'd hear it wasn't friendly. So we waited, POS were still not out of reinforced, we had about 350 and RA about 200 ready to bridge in somewhere in 5C-.

Then cyno went up, and our plan seemed to work out pretty well. A lot of the RA allies didn't have time to write in the POS password before lag and DD's hit them in the face, and we got a pretty nice dual DD off.

RA did not make any attempts to try anything after that, and when they tried to make a run for it about an hour later, we made chase, killed a couple (but not many since a lot of them logged on gates) and we tried to DD them again killing mostly friendly dictors .

So far all towers before DT have been killed, and about 6 more come out after DT. If we manage to kill all today, station will be in Atlas hands tomorrow (since we've had a sov claiming tower in there for couple weeks) and the sov4 broken next weekend.

I've already counted one Archon with a spare lowslot, a Chimera with one spare high, a Chimera with only two highslots used, like three carriers with Drone Link Augs, a Chimera with dual SBAs but only two hardeners (and a Large Remote Armor Rep / Large Shield Transporter II, too) and a Chimera with no remote-reps but an A-Type SBA + 2 hardener tank.

What the fuck? These are some of the very worst carrier fittings anyone has seen outside of Empire in years.

On June 15 2009 18:15 WiljushkA wrote:

the engagement should probably be named "when carebears attack: more money than sense".

On June 15 2009 18:15 WiljushkA wrote:
most of the carriers in the Period Basis engagements (that led up to the 49- attack) were lost by the romulans. heres what one of the pandemic legion guys said about their fittings:



the engagement should probably be named "when carebears attack: more money than sense".

On June 15 2009 18:04 Bill307 wrote:
Battle report from Atlas's POV:


Looking bad for RA...

Seoul_Power:


In the Southwest, Red Alliance has actually repelled a good number of attacks on Insmother and Scalding Pass. Atlas is taking a breather and RA and their friends have managed to push Aggression, Sc0rched Earth and IRC/ED back. It's worth noting that the enemies on both fronts have started cooperating with each other, so now attacks on both sides of RA are going to be more coordinated. I don't see this being a major issue, this isn't the first time RA's been attacked from all sides.

Overview
While many of us would like to point at 3BK and 49 and declare victory - or at least assert that victory is imminent, do so would be to repeat the mistakes we made last time we knocked at 49's door only to fail.

The good news is that our enemies are focused in two systems, one of which allows us to camp them into an NPC station (KFIE), extracting still more vengeance in the name of S-U8A4. The bad news is that there is still a substantial amount of ***got spam in Querious to be dealt with; I'll be updating the spreadsheet after I finish writing this, assuming our scout reports are up to date. At the very least, 1-SMEB remains, along with a smattering of 'unsexy' targets that nevertheless must be killed.
There are two broad ways in which we could choose to assault 49. Option one is open, frontal assault complete with ~good fights~. This was tried before; the purging exhausted us after we shot too many towers in one night, and then all our efforts were wasted when Molle summoned his friedns (since they do not blob or nap) and vastly outnumbered us in eurotime.

Option two is slow, draining attrition. Rather than attacking 20 towers at a go, we shoot 5 and go back to work on pet spam in Querious. Rather than allowing an all-encompassing battle on our enemy's terms, we harass the system and keep station services flatlined, rendering a miserable, boring, slog for them - no glory, no honor, just interminable and humiliating failure.
Other news: Solar Fleet invaded Geminate/Wildly Inappropriate this weekend. The NC went north and have - as of moments ago - finished purging the last tower of their invading forces. With that out of the way, they'll be back down here for more Querious hijinks.

NEAR TERM STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES:

1. Camp 49 and KFIE
2. Keep 49 Station Services Inoperative
3. Reinforce 49- R64s, work slowly on sieging the system
4. Continue to clear out pet spam

6/11 to 6/15, inclusive
I was relaxing in Portland and so missed the usual daily war update. There's not much ground to cover. After winning 3BK utterly on 6/10-6/11, we took a couple of days off to focus on slosh ops and bike riding on the 12th and 13th. Yesterday, Sunday the 14th, was the first outbreak of serious strategic action.

First, in late euro prime, we killed a bunch of Romulans and SysK in XZ-, a cruicial midpoint bridge system in Period Basis. Mister Vee tells the tale:

Originally by: Mister VeeHere's how it went down:






After this, we moved to 5V- and ZAU and repped and restronted our R64s, which RKZ had ninja-sieged pre-downtime several days ago during an outbreak of actual fighting spirit. Possessing a huge fleet, we went to 49 and attacked the jammer. An epic battle ensued.



It went down with a whole three casualties on our side.

We then sieged some ****, gnawing slowly on 49 rather than going for a hellpurge, focusing on the RKZ R64s (since they only have two left) and maybe a couple of other towers. They come out at 14:50ish on Tuesday.

Nex Exercitus, the former core of Skunk-Works now in EXE, sold us a Minmatar Outpost egg in J-L at 3b below empire price. Their faith in RKZ's victory remains unbroken!

This morning we have been greeted with a hilarious sight: Molle flying Chowdown's Avatar. Fifth time's a charm!

Seoul Power:
That titan actually belonged to Chowdown, who got that titan from a player known as the Enslaver, who was a GM working within Lotka Volterra, as well as the person who was targeted by the infamous "cut the power to his house" plot. I believe it's the first Titan to ever fire a DD on goons. So yeah, that particular Avatar has some history with us. We very much look forward to killing it.

Seoul Power from the CoH thread:
Minor Threat (a small alliance that's been trying to break into 0.0 politics) tried to make an ultimatum to Red Alliance, telling them to surrender and they'd allow an evacuation. Red Alliance responded by sending them a pornographic image, with arrows pointing to the genitals of the two men in the picture labeled "Red Alliance" and "Legion of xXDeathXx". The woman was labeled as "Minor Threat."

Mittani 6/16 update:
First: take a moment, stare at that pos jpg, and pat yourselves on the back.

Second: We can still **** this up horribly. We're past masters of ****ing up anything involving 49. Perhaps no one is better in this game at hilariously failing in this particular system than Goonswarm. We have to resist the urge to declare victory and **** this up; we have to hold out until 49 is done. Then and only then can we go ride bikes, start up the foreign legion, and invade lowsec while spewing catchphrases like carefree griefing ***gots.

What happened since the last update? Our inadvertent titan-baiting in 49 blossomed into full-on sieging and kiting. We had planned, at the directorate level, to commence the invasion after Zapa's excellent SoTG. However, KenZoku had gone fetal so obviously that by the time the speech began in the evening of US time, the kiting of RKZ towers in 49 had been ongoing for many hours. This continued until downtime, when the kited towers were knocked into reinforced; we've been blessed with a number of US TZ timers.

In non-49 news, we cleared out OGY by blowing up the offline ROL towers there. The amount of hostile towers in Querious continues to plummet.

After downtime we formed up en masse, assembling more than 300 coalition pilots and ten titans. KenZoku and -A- couldn't break 100, canceled their formups, and lost the four towers which came out at 14:00. Those are now staging deathstars for our titans.

At 15:00 evetime today, Dianabolic changed the RKZ IRC motd: "Evac what you can from 49-, Darwin is watching you. Bridge from 49- at 1800." In response, we have ****caged the station and announced the creation of a PR- style permacamp. Unlike with PR, if we flip 49 to our control, those BoB assets are trapped.

Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. Those towers we took at downtime? Those were RKZ's last R64s. They have none, now. Zero.

Wither and burn, you ****ing wretches.

On June 16 2009 14:19 number1gog wrote:
Ok I know this thread is dying and I should stop bumping it, but I found this too funny not to pass on:

First: take a moment, stare at that pos jpg, and pat yourselves on the back.

Second: We can still **** this up horribly. We're past masters of ****ing up anything involving 49. Perhaps no one is better in this game at hilariously failing in this particular system than Goonswarm. We have to resist the urge to declare victory and **** this up; we have to hold out until 49 is done. Then and only then can we go ride bikes, start up the foreign legion, and invade lowsec while spewing catchphrases like carefree griefing ***gots.

What happened since the last update? Our inadvertent titan-baiting in 49 blossomed into full-on sieging and kiting. We had planned, at the directorate level, to commence the invasion after Zapa's excellent SoTG. However, KenZoku had gone fetal so obviously that by the time the speech began in the evening of US time, the kiting of RKZ towers in 49 had been ongoing for many hours. This continued until downtime, when the kited towers were knocked into reinforced; we've been blessed with a number of US TZ timers.

In non-49 news, we cleared out OGY by blowing up the offline ROL towers there. The amount of hostile towers in Querious continues to plummet.

After downtime we formed up en masse, assembling more than 300 coalition pilots and ten titans. KenZoku and -A- couldn't break 100, canceled their formups, and lost the four towers which came out at 14:00. Those are now staging deathstars for our titans.

At 15:00 evetime today, Dianabolic changed the RKZ IRC motd: "Evac what you can from 49-, Darwin is watching you. Bridge from 49- at 1800." In response, we have ****caged the station and announced the creation of a PR- style permacamp. Unlike with PR, if we flip 49 to our control, those BoB assets are trapped.

Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. Those towers we took at downtime? Those were RKZ's last R64s. They have none, now. Zero.

Wither and burn, you ****ing wretches.

Some Random Goon from CAOD:
Why is the final boss always so much easier than some particularly frustrating earlier boss?