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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 01 2009 20:21 GMT
#41
On January 02 2009 04:38 Luddite wrote:
Or just buy it, it's only like $20.

Seriously. Steam holiday sale means vanilla Civ 4 is only $15, and with both expansions, its only $25.
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-01 22:19:49
January 01 2009 20:51 GMT
#42
Alright, I'm getting a little impatient (yes, after only a day ) so I figured I'd just post how we could probably set this game up, then if anyone has complaints/problems we can discuss those, rather than trying to take everything one step at a time.

Game will open Tuesday 02:00 KST (I hate converting timezones so we'll go by TL time) and the game will start Wednesday 02:00 KST. We'll be using pitboss, so don't worry about being available at a certain time, just make sure you're available sometime in those 24 hours to log in. It seems like the host has to decide the civilizations before launching the game, so to make this easier everyone will play random.

To make the game go a little faster we can try to organize times where all of us would be available for a few hours to blaze by 50 or so turns. As for how the world will be set up...

Game Overview
Players: 16 + Host
Venue: Hamachi LAN
Turn Timer: 18 Hours
Map & Map Size: Continents, Huge
Difficulty: Noble
Climate: Temperate
Sea Level: Medium
Speed: Normal

Options
Barbarians
No Vassal States
Technology Brokering
Technology Trading
No Permanent Alliances
Tribal Villages

Remember, this isn't final. I'm just posting this here to gauge what should be changed/what I'm missing. So feel free to input any ideas or suggestions.

Edit: I pretty much copied this template off the civfanatics forum. So for now I guess I'll take zulu's suggestion of just leaving everything on default.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 01 2009 20:55 GMT
#43
we should do continents, turn on barbarians, don't use choose religions, basically the default settings with a huge map
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
January 01 2009 21:21 GMT
#44
Hmm I've never played a MP game with technology trading. I'm not sure that'll work well, but we can give it a shot I suppose.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-01 22:17:20
January 01 2009 22:00 GMT
#45
Alright, I think I got this pitboss thing working fine over hamachi. Anyone available to just test it out real quick?

Also, since my computer and internet connection can be a bit iffy sometime, I may end up getting disconnected a few times over the course of the game. So I'd like to test out how easy it is to load back up and start back wherever we left off. If I disconnect we may lose just 1 turn at most (if even that) since I'll make sure to at least save after all of my turns.

Edit: oh yeah, and I'm running off the latest patch 3.17 if it makes any difference.
Edit2: since I'm just testing I'll let anyone join.
Hamachi server: TLciv4
(no password)
Edit3: Well it seems that the pitboss saves a recovery save file everytime someone ends their turn. So things should be fine. But I'd still like to see how well things handle when I'm not the only one in the server
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
January 01 2009 23:16 GMT
#46
On January 02 2009 04:38 Luddite wrote:
Yeah I'd be up for a PitBoss game whenever. May I suggest a "Big and Small" map? It'll take a bit longer but it makes the game much more interesting IMO.

@nitram- I'm sure you can find a torrent of it somewhere. Or just buy it, it's only like $20.

Ya but that requires going to a store and looking for it :/
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 01 2009 23:43 GMT
#47
On January 02 2009 08:16 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 04:38 Luddite wrote:
Yeah I'd be up for a PitBoss game whenever. May I suggest a "Big and Small" map? It'll take a bit longer but it makes the game much more interesting IMO.

@nitram- I'm sure you can find a torrent of it somewhere. Or just buy it, it's only like $20.

Ya but that requires going to a store and looking for it :/

As I said above: Steam Holiday Sale.
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
January 02 2009 00:08 GMT
#48
Just finished testing out the pitboss with zer0das, and it seems to run fine. I'm having trouble getting the email system set up, but hopefully we can just keep track of turns here on the forums.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 08:07:00
January 02 2009 00:22 GMT
#49
EDIT: NVM normal speed is fine, even fast is fine

I dont know about multiplayer, but for singleplayer, Epic game speed rather than Normal is much better (means that building, researching, etc take longer). The reason is because in Normal speed, technology is researched too quickly, which makes many techs, such as military ones, obsolete a bit too quickly. By the time your newly created army reaches your enemy's base, he already has something that beats it, as movement speed does not change depending on the game speed.

But for multiplayer pitboss, this would also mean each turn means less, which may not be good if we're not going through turns quickly. Perhaps someone with more experience online could advise us?
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 02 2009 01:16 GMT
#50
So are we using hamachi at a set time? Lets get some dates up on the board.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 06:23:56
January 02 2009 06:20 GMT
#51
I'm getting this game.

But I've never really played a turn-based strategy game before
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 08:13:46
January 02 2009 08:07 GMT
#52
silly L he already posted about that in the post on top of this page

but just go read the revised OP


Falcynn: I think we should test out a hamachi server beforehand. I tried to run a hamachi game for civ4 last night but couldnt see each other's games, and had similar problems with starcraft a few weeks ago (tho before that I used to use it a lot and it worked). just PM me or something when youd like to try it
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 02 2009 08:53 GMT
#53
I've always been confused by how these expansion packs work for Civ4. Say I install Civ4, Warlords and BTS in that order.

1. If I run BTS will it have the content from all three games? If no, is it possible to have the content from all three games?

2. If I run Warlords then will I only have the content from vanilla + warlords (seeing that warlords is the first expansion pack and BTS the second)

3. If I run vanilla then I will only have the content from the original game?

Also is Warlords any good?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Tehpanda
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States59 Posts
January 02 2009 14:06 GMT
#54
yessss i love civ4!
I'll have to buy BTS and figure out all the new additions though.

...and Zulu, we have a game to finish
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 02 2009 18:23 GMT
#55
yes im really sorry about that, too much dota lately. I will be on around 9:30pm us eastern time tonight and we can rock.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
January 02 2009 19:11 GMT
#56
On January 02 2009 17:53 writer22816 wrote:
I've always been confused by how these expansion packs work for Civ4. Say I install Civ4, Warlords and BTS in that order.

1. If I run BTS will it have the content from all three games? If no, is it possible to have the content from all three games?

2. If I run Warlords then will I only have the content from vanilla + warlords (seeing that warlords is the first expansion pack and BTS the second)

3. If I run vanilla then I will only have the content from the original game?

Also is Warlords any good?

Warlords is basically unnecessary. BTS includes all the content from warlords, except for some scenarios/custom maps. It's really not worth spending money on warlords.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
January 03 2009 23:41 GMT
#57
I'm not sure if you guys not saying something about the schedule is a sign that you're fine with it opening tomorrow, so I put a poll in the OP.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
January 03 2009 23:45 GMT
#58
do you wanna do random civs, or let people pick? picking is more fun, but some civs are inda imba.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-03 23:55:53
January 03 2009 23:54 GMT
#59
Well if I let people pick then people will have to sign up here, or PM me with what civs they want since people can't pick their civs while in the lobby of a pitboss game.

It doesn't matter to me either way...so I guess I'll post another poll

Edit: keep in mind, if you guys choose to pick, then the game will be post-poned for as long as it takes to get everyone to post what civ they want.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 22:16:09
January 04 2009 22:13 GMT
#60
There hasn't been much activity here for a while so I'm not sure if the interest has faded, but either way, the game is now open.

Hamachi Server: TLciv4
Civ4 Game Name: TLciv4
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