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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 21:10:14
October 27 2009 21:09 GMT
#41
It's hard to be optimistic anymore about Bioware products after Mass Effect.

And honestly, The Witcher 2 is going to wipe the floor with this.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 27 2009 21:14 GMT
#42
On October 28 2009 06:09 eMbrace wrote:
It's hard to be optimistic anymore about Bioware products after Mass Effect.

And honestly, The Witcher 2 is going to wipe the floor with this.

With Chris Avellone as lead designer on Alpha Protocol, I'd say that's the RPG I'm most optimistic for.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 27 2009 21:16 GMT
#43
On October 28 2009 06:09 eMbrace wrote:
It's hard to be optimistic anymore about Bioware products after Mass Effect.

And honestly, The Witcher 2 is going to wipe the floor with this.



The Witcher was one of the worst rpgs I ever played. WTF was that, such an utter crap. No graphical optimization, slow slow slow repetitive repetitive repetitive pace of play, story with absolutely no depth - a recipe for disaster.

As long as Bioware doesn't go overboard with the new game+ crap like they did in mass effect, I'll be glad to play dragon age.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
October 27 2009 21:21 GMT
#44
I will buy the game, and hopefully not be disappointed, but am prepared to be.

Bioware has made wonderful games and has made average games, their name does not guarantee i will be impressed, but it is something i trust far more than most. The marketing direction of the game may be simply an attempt to attract a different market, but the game it's self might cater to the BG genre gamer, or it may be an foreshadowing of a failure.

And this will tide me over till the release of cod modern warfare 2, which in turn will tide over me till SC:2 ( wishful thinking, i know.)
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
October 27 2009 21:47 GMT
#45
Never cared too much for this game(probably due to the crappy advertising) until recently when I did some research of my own, and I'm really looking forward to it now. Its not to often that I'm interested in a western style rpg. I did enjoy kotor and mass effect, hopefully Dragon Age will be as good.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 21:56:05
October 27 2009 21:54 GMT
#46
Eh maybe it is the spiritual successor of Baldur's Gate .... Dark Alliance

o,o

On October 28 2009 03:13 Substandard wrote:
It's an rpg developed by Bioware and they have proven time and time again that all their games become blockbusters similiar to blizzard games.


Black Isle =/= Bioware.
Also there are many shitty blockbusters.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 22:34:13
October 27 2009 22:26 GMT
#47
This. Game. Cannot. Come. Out. Fast. Enough.

I'm so excited about this game. Finally, a LONG, tactical, story-driven RPG that doesn't suck!

Edit: And to the person who said Witcher 2 > DA:O, we have no reason to think this is the case. We have seen significant videos and reviews on DA:O and it's all but guaranteed to be a great game.

Witcher was a fun game but in no way ground-breaking or special.

I agree with the poster about Alpha Protocal. That game looks good.

If Dragon Age can be 70% of what Planescape and BG2 were, it will be the greatest game i've played in years.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 22:45:17
October 27 2009 22:44 GMT
#48
On October 28 2009 07:26 On_Slaught wrote:
I'm so excited about this game. Finally, a LONG, tactical, story-driven RPG that doesn't suck!

See, THIS gives Bioware WAY too much credit. Even people I know who thought KotOR was phenomenal agreed that the combat was fairly bland, particularly after you become a Jedi.

On October 28 2009 07:26 On_Slaught wrote:
Edit: And to the person who said Witcher 2 > DA:O, we have no reason to think this is the case. We have seen significant videos and reviews on DA:O and it's all but guaranteed to be a great game.

The thing is, we haven't. We've seen a handful of dialogues that don't look in any way revolutionary, some combat videos that tell nothing about how the system actually works, and a lot of cutscenes. The number of videos we've seen that actually deliver substantive information about the game, and not just "ooh look at this, this is cool" are fairly small. Ditto on reviews, especially given how slanted some reviews end up being.
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nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
October 27 2009 22:56 GMT
#49
Hmmm. I loved BG2 back in the day, but I have to agree that the way the game was marketed was a big turnoff for me. I probably won't be coming out of single player game retirement to play this at least until it's much cheaper.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 23:02:18
October 27 2009 23:01 GMT
#50
On October 28 2009 07:26 On_Slaught wrote:
This. Game. Cannot. Come. Out. Fast. Enough.

I'm so excited about this game. Finally, a LONG, tactical, story-driven RPG that doesn't suck!

Edit: And to the person who said Witcher 2 > DA:O, we have no reason to think this is the case. We have seen significant videos and reviews on DA:O and it's all but guaranteed to be a great game.

Witcher was a fun game but in no way ground-breaking or special.

I agree with the poster about Alpha Protocal. That game looks good.

If Dragon Age can be 70% of what Planescape and BG2 were, it will be the greatest game i've played in years.


My reasons to think that Witcher 2 will be better is merely an opinion.

Bioware doesn't get a lot of heavy competition any more...

I mean the other big name WRPG franchises today are what? Fable, Fallout, Mass Effect?Not too hard to top those IMO.

So you can imagine my surprise when I picked up the Witcher, and even though it wasn't an insanely complex game by any means, and had its share of technical issues -- I don't think I've felt that engrossed in a RPG in lonnnngg time.



zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
October 27 2009 23:07 GMT
#51
BG2 is by far the game I completed the most times. I did it in every possible way. I'm also a hardcore BG1, IWD1 & IWD2. With that been said, BioWare claiming Dragon Age is the new BG means something really big to me.

I expect to play this game endlessly until 2012, which is when SC2 will finally be released.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
October 28 2009 00:14 GMT
#52
Lets face it, the main draw for the baldur's gate series wasn't the combat, it was the story, characters and exploration. Even if dragon age's combat system isn't that engaging I'll be more than satisfied if it pulls off the other elements of a great rpg well. The same can be said of fallout 3, crap combat, but the rest of the game was gold. That said I've already pre-ordered my copy of dragon age, can't wait!

and lol @ the witcher being a good game. Holly crap, what a piece of trash it was. Reminded me of pokemon except with boobs, have to collect them all... nude cards??
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 28 2009 00:16 GMT
#53
On October 28 2009 09:14 EAGER-beaver wrote:
Lets face it, the main draw for the baldur's gate series wasn't the combat, it was the story, characters and exploration. Even if dragon age's combat system isn't that engaging I'll be more than satisfied if it pulls off the other elements of a great rpg well. The same can be said of fallout 3, crap combat, but the rest of the game was gold. That said I've already pre-ordered my copy of dragon age, can't wait!

and lol @ the witcher being a good game. Holly crap, what a piece of trash it was. Reminded me of pokemon except with boobs, have to collect them all... nude cards??


Yes, that was clearly the main draw of the game and the reason it was popular.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
October 28 2009 00:21 GMT
#54
there was nothing wrong with witcher :/ much better than your average shit game, not an epic success best game ever like bg2 is, but still a decent game. Mass effect was also decent, had many flaws but many really good parts too!. If this game is as good as either the witcher or mass effect ill certainly play it.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 00:47:52
October 28 2009 00:47 GMT
#55
On October 28 2009 09:14 EAGER-beaver wrote:
Lets face it, the main draw for the baldur's gate series wasn't the combat, it was the story, characters and exploration.

I agree for BG1, however combat is really important in BG2 and probably the most interesting thing in the game ( with mods ) if you have already completed the game once and experienced the banters. That's why it has a great replayability compared to BG1.

Oh and ToB is all about fights seriously lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 28 2009 01:02 GMT
#56
On October 28 2009 09:14 EAGER-beaver wrote:
and lol @ the witcher being a good game. Holly crap, what a piece of trash it was. Reminded me of pokemon except with boobs, have to collect them all... nude cards??

It at least tried to do things that most other RPGs these days haven't tried. It offered real choices that actually affect the world you're in (almost of the choices in other modern RPG games either don't matter--e.g. it just gives you a different cutscene or some different dialogue text--or ultimately lead you to the same choice--e.g. swap an NPC that appears in 2-3 scenes, and further on the choice is irrelevant). Most people miss that from having only played the game once, but the choices you make at certain points in the game actually do alter the events notably.
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 01:20:30
October 28 2009 01:19 GMT
#57
On October 28 2009 10:02 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 09:14 EAGER-beaver wrote:
and lol @ the witcher being a good game. Holly crap, what a piece of trash it was. Reminded me of pokemon except with boobs, have to collect them all... nude cards??

It at least tried to do things that most other RPGs these days haven't tried. It offered real choices that actually affect the world you're in (almost of the choices in other modern RPG games either don't matter--e.g. it just gives you a different cutscene or some different dialogue text--or ultimately lead you to the same choice--e.g. swap an NPC that appears in 2-3 scenes, and further on the choice is irrelevant). Most people miss that from having only played the game once, but the choices you make at certain points in the game actually do alter the events notably.


I liked the Witcher's dialogue system because there was no cookie-cutter good-or-evil decision to make. the lines were very grey and made for truly interesting and realistic social situations.

i liked that more than the typical

"oh please help me! they robbed me!!"

A.) Sure I'll help, to the rescueeeee
B.) I don't want to get involved
C.) Sure I'll help you....NOT!! *kill NPC*

and that's precisely what I saw in some Dragon Age footage where there is a prisoner and you can kill him for no goddamn reason just to be morally backwards.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
October 28 2009 01:57 GMT
#58
This is one of the few rpgs I've been looking forward too in a long time, somebody notify us on this thread if this game leaks plz imo.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
October 28 2009 01:58 GMT
#59
On October 28 2009 07:26 On_Slaught wrote:


I'm so excited about this game. Finally, a LONG, tactical, story-driven RPG that doesn't suck!



If Dragon Age can be 70% of what Planescape and BG2 were, it will be the greatest game i've played in years.



Yeah I agree, though bg2 felt like a little bit too much combat at times. I'll mainly be judging this game on narrative delivery and story first, gameplay second.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 28 2009 22:11 GMT
#60
On October 27 2009 04:49 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2009 02:29 Boblion wrote:
/prepared to be disappointed
( BG2 scenario already disappointed me a bit back then even if it is one of my favourite games because gameplay with mods is just awesome. )

Maybe i'm just too old for what video games have become


edit: jesus those trailers with crap-metal are so lame

Same here.

Regardless of how good the game ends up being, the development of this game has been enshrouded in so much money-grubbing and PR bullshit that it's absurd. Advertising the game's sex scenes as part of the trailers is just awful. Way to cater to the lowest common denominator.

There's an expansion that comes out the day of release? Why couldn't they just have included it in the game instead of making you pay another x dollars for it?



Second lowest common denominator. Sex scenes are at least above casual gamers.
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