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On March 09 2013 05:13 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 15:19 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Press space, give commands, press space, watch the magic happen, then press space again. This can be played a lot like a turn based game. Oh what the fuck you can pause in battles?
Sometimes, the tutorials and manuals exist for a reason :p don't burn me if there was no tutorials in this game, I can't remember anymore. Mainly what I remember was the feeling I get from any Elder Scrolls game, you really, really don't play them for an awesome combat experience.
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lol I couldn't imagine doing some of these fights without pause.
it's a BIOWARE game brah!
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DA:O is a great game, DA:2 on the other hand....
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Does this game get better later? So far really not impressed at all. Granted this is probably not really my type of game, but for $7.50 on Steam and all the rave reviews I figured I'd give it a shot.
I don't mind that the combat and areas are extremely linear and on rails, but I thought the story would be more open than this. Doesn't really seem to matter what dialogue I pick, the story seems to be forced on rails. Pick one dialogue option, and if another is important, another NPC will pick it for you, or the NPC you are talking with will freely offer it to you. Some parts seem copypasted directly from The Witcher 2 (Loghain betraying the king, and the cutscene in Denerim) and overall just hilariously clique and lame.
Pretty fucking terrible game tbh. What sub-genre is this considered (so I can completely avoid them in the future- not really even worth the 7.50 I paid for it lol)?
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On April 28 2013 04:02 screamingpalm wrote: Does this game get better later? So far really not impressed at all. Granted this is probably not really my type of game, but for $7.50 on Steam and all the rave reviews I figured I'd give it a shot.
I don't mind that it is extremely linear and on rails, but I thought the story would be more open than this. Doesn't really seem to matter what dialogue I pick, the story seems to be forced on rails. Pick on dialogue option, and if another is important, another NPC will pick it for you, or the NPC you are talking with will freely offer it to you. Some parts seem copypasted directly from The Witcher 2 (Loghain betraying the king, and the cutscene in Denerim) and overall just hilariously clique and lame.
Pretty fucking terrible game tbh. What sub-genre is this considered (so I can completely avoid them in the future- not really even worth the 7.50 I paid for it lol)?
uh why did you think any of it was copypasted from witcher 2 when dragon age origins was released like 2 years previous to it?
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On April 28 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 04:02 screamingpalm wrote: Does this game get better later? So far really not impressed at all. Granted this is probably not really my type of game, but for $7.50 on Steam and all the rave reviews I figured I'd give it a shot.
I don't mind that it is extremely linear and on rails, but I thought the story would be more open than this. Doesn't really seem to matter what dialogue I pick, the story seems to be forced on rails. Pick on dialogue option, and if another is important, another NPC will pick it for you, or the NPC you are talking with will freely offer it to you. Some parts seem copypasted directly from The Witcher 2 (Loghain betraying the king, and the cutscene in Denerim) and overall just hilariously clique and lame.
Pretty fucking terrible game tbh. What sub-genre is this considered (so I can completely avoid them in the future- not really even worth the 7.50 I paid for it lol)? uh why did you think any of it was copypasted from witcher 2 when dragon age origins was released like 2 years previous to it?
Ah fair enough, perhaps the other way around then. Point freely withdrawn. :D
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Considering it was released a full 2 years before the witcher 2, i'd say it was copied itself.
The game (after the initial chapters) opens up and you can do events in any order you so please, with multiple endings for each one, tons of sidequests in each city with multiple choice endings for those too (well, some of the time, some arent so fleshed out but alot of them are)
Theres a huge well of information to be found out about your followers, you can fuck them or make them hate you and unlock sidequests for those too + Show Spoiler +(You can eventually get morrigans mother instead of morrigan if you please, for example)
If you havent played the game beyond Loghains betrayal and the small town just after it, you havent really played the game at all.
Basically everything following that is multiple choice and there is depth to everything if you can be bothered, you could easily complete the game without ever doing some of the awesome storylines of your followers or multiple choice long sidequests for example.
In other words, you havent played the game alot and your talking out of your ass with that witcher comment.
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Alright thanks, I'll give it a little longer then. I want to give it a fair go at least.
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On April 28 2013 04:13 screamingpalm wrote: Alright thanks, I'll give it a little longer then. I want to give it a fair go at least. The game is mass effect/kotor but with swords. Weakest of those 3 series imo, dragon age2 is even worse! Pretty sure you are wasting your time if you don't like it after 20 minutes or so, but the game should be worth it if you like mass effect and kotor!
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I actually kindof like the combat- more accurately the "tactics" for party members. Ironically though, I don't play the game the way it was intended. I play only the main character and use tactics for the others in real time (no pausing). I guess I prefer either turn-based or real time and not a hybrid pausable real time. Playing on Hard difficulty, so not sure how far I can get playing this way. :D
So what type of RPG is this considered? Do these narrative-based RPG's have a defining sub-genre?
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On April 28 2013 04:27 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 04:13 screamingpalm wrote: Alright thanks, I'll give it a little longer then. I want to give it a fair go at least. The game is mass effect/kotor but with swords. Weakest of those 3 series imo, dragon age2 is even worse! Pretty sure you are wasting your time if you don't like it after 20 minutes or so, but the game should be worth it if you like mass effect and kotor!
This.
Dragon Age/ME are both incredibly overrated, and DA is by far the inferior of the two. If you're really looking for a quality RPG, don't get into DA.
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DA2 really gets more flak than it deserves, and I know why it is: the storyline is linear and no matter what the player does, nothing effects it. The gameplay is superior in some respects, the voice acting is amazing, and the characters are still pretty great. The monotony of fighting on the same maps and the wave structure of 90% of the fights combined with the aforementioned storyline make it worse than its predecessor, but better than most of the RPG shit at the time.
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Stupid? Dragon Age: Origins is by far the best RPG of the last 5 years. And its 10x times better than Mass Effect.
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On April 28 2013 05:05 Iorveth wrote: Stupid? Dragon Age: Origins is by far the best RPG of the last 5 years. And its 10x times better than Mass Effect.
dunno about that. for the story/telling part i think me2 easily was better (didnt play me1/3), DA story(and characters) are mostly really boring. for combat it very well might be but not that much better then lets say drakensang or similars if you fancy oldschool rulebased turn combat(drakensang made me atleast play through it) for the rollplay part id list skyrim over most others since true rollplay demands options and freedom, something all the others just fail at.
/my view might be biased since the overhype of DA as a successor to BG series made me maybe expect much more then it ever intended to be
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^ Aye I tend to feel the same. NWN is still probably my favorite RPG. The player-made mods were more interesting stories than what these "professional" writers come up with imo. It was like a high quality canvas which allowed for so much creativity, art, and expression.
Not that I'm against being able to bang a witch, I'm down with sticky witchy as much as the next guy, just that I'm getting old and have had plenty tail IRL... just doesn't fill a void for me when I have a witch anytime I want. :D
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It's a rather bland MMO for a grinder who loves to cruise through MMOs. For the RPG vet you'll find things you love and some things you hate, but you're forced to interact with most of the game. The sidequests range from walk in the park to spending more time paused than playing just to manage your poultices just right.
It's fun in the sense that for the first play through, the somewhat predictable plot does bring you through some visually gratifying scenarios with some humor if you look hard enough.
You can still enjoy DA more than once, but I recommend plenty of room in between so that you don't find yourself bored too quickly.
Solid 7.5/10
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DA 1 was good, combat was refreshingly difficult save unless you've built some of the 'broken' combos, but pacing was pretty bad. DA2 was a bit more 'action-y' than DA1, and though there are some valid complaints, I personally enjoyed it more. The plot was interesting in that while the major plot elements happened regardless of your involvement, you still had some leeway to make your mark, that and Varus was awesome.
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DA:O is 100x better with mods, go to the nexus to fill it up.
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On April 28 2013 09:03 Craze wrote: DA:O is 100x better with mods, go to the nexus to fill it up.
What do you recommend?
As an aside- contrary to most, I like smart ass Alistair as a character, just seems odd to me that he's a Templar.
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On April 28 2013 04:02 screamingpalm wrote: Pretty fucking terrible game tbh. What sub-genre is this considered (so I can completely avoid them in the future- not really even worth the 7.50 I paid for it lol)? Bioware game published by EA lol.
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