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On November 13 2008 06:55 white_box921 wrote:
the thing is that you have gotten to 99 doesn't mean shit, unless you solo the whole game or can prove that other people that played with you also didn't use any.
But still, a lot of respect if you have done. I certainly would never spend so much time to reach 99, consider the amount of money I can make at 90 (I think I sold mine at max nearly $200)
Solo'd all the way to 99. I played Single Player.
I also got to 93 playing with only a close group of friends. I don't play pub games.
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"Blizzard bans Battle.net…"
Its about time... bring some 3rd party servers yeahh!
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single player as in real single player? or just b.net and you private it? because the difference is sooooooo fucking huge
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United States12240 Posts
On November 13 2008 07:11 white_box921 wrote:
single player as in real single player? or just b.net and you private it? because the difference is sooooooo fucking huge
Single player for the former, B.net for the latter. It doesn't make a big difference at all, because the only difference is you can exit the game more easily offline. Leveling is all about making informed decisions. If you're playing Hardcore or really putting a focus on leveling, maybe you want to stay away from games which spawn Undead Stygian Dolls or Willowisps. It's all about playing smart and anticipating all the possible scenarios.
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well I think he's saying that if you played single player but not in player 8 mode or whatever that would take soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long
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On November 12 2008 19:39 writer22816 wrote:
I dunno about starcraft bans but a lot of the "cheats" in Diablo II are really justified.
Not using a maphack is just simply moronic and insane because having a different map every game is just ridiculous. Maphack doesn't take away gameplay or make it unfair for users (to an extent), it just saves people a lot of time and, IMHO, is essential.
Then there's D2loader which was mentioned above, and dupes. Dupes, I feel, are an essential part of D2's economy. Instead of making everything really easy to get it actually makes everything POSSIBLE to get. The higher runes (Jah and Ber in particular) have like a one-millionth chance of dropping and are used in so many runewords. Only with dupes is it actually possible for a realistic number of people to get these runes and make Enigma, infinity, etc.
Of course you have to draw the line somewhere (tppk, auto-aim, that program that alters your breakpoints whose name i can't remember) but D2 is just so ridiculous in many ways.
/rant
I used to play it a lot but now I kind of hate it with a passion.
Sorry to say buddy, but I disagree 100%.
D2 is not a game to make MONEY on. Its for fun, not super competitive play where you just want to bot run the same area 100 times or dupe items. TPPK, and all those other things are just as unacceptable. The game isn't super friendly to competitive players, because quite frankly, many many people hate playing in that kind of environment. If you're gonna hack, go play LAN or single-player, even private games with friends you probably will not have a big issue.
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this is a ploy to get people to buy SC2....
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On November 13 2008 09:39 MorningMusume11 wrote:
this is a ploy to get people to buy SC2....
I like how you think.. 
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On November 13 2008 10:30 SirNeb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2008 09:39 MorningMusume11 wrote:
this is a ploy to get people to buy SC2.... I like how you think..
i dont, he thinks like an EA-lead-producer-like/Sigarty-like
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It seems my opinion is really not what a lot of people think, so I'll try to explain more behind my thinking. For those of you who are wondering, I'm not pro-mbs and I definitely don't hack on BW. I've actually played a lot without dupes and cubing my runes up bit by bit. (128 ists make a Jah >_<)
Let's face it, diablo 2 is essentially a skill-less game. True you can do some shit like beating the game hardcore untwinked with no gear and stats by yourself on /players8 or whatever but whether or not you find that fun is your opinion (I certainly don't, I find it too depedent on luck and how many lightning enchanted conviction aura burning souls you encounter). Then again there's the pvp builds that require skill (barbs and assassins come to mind) but most of the game is about how much time you care to invest. I didn't like the game in this respect and I certainly didn't feel like investing a lot of time into it. The way I saw it Diablo 2 was a boring chore (just like a whole bunch of MMO's) about constantly doing baal runs, magic finds and trading just to get some gear. I did not find the game fun doing that. That is why I'm pro-mh/dupe in diablo 2. For me it doesn't break the game or the competition (there basically is none) but just saves me a lot of time and makes it possible to try everything in-game.
Obviously starcraft is a totally different thing, it's very skill-intensive and competition (which D2 mostly lacks) makes the game fun. Would i hack on this game? Absolutely not, it gives you a ridiculous advantage and destroys competition. Am I pro-mbs? No, I feel that it eliminates macro.
Maybe you like diablo a lot but i felt it was basically doing the same stuff over and over again...
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Have you ever played d2 untwinked?
It's actually pretty difficult to finish the game on hell.
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a guy i knew got all 5 accounts banned, but he was using a combination of mh, d2loader and redvex. a few other guys got banned for mhing too, but i was fine. no ban for me. theres still bots spamming in public games and doing baal runs though
i dont think d2 is a skill-less game, not as skilled as starcraft obviously, but it takes a certain kind of experience and skill when you are pvping people. alot of luck too. also, you dont think duping is bad for diablo? duping items gives the duping person the advantage, whereas the person not duping doesnt have 10512512512 ber runes. you can argue that both people can dupe, fine, but both people can maphack in starcraft too and that would make it fair, right?
there is still some d2 clan wars going on and some scenes that do not support foul play like botting, duping, hacking etc. i dont maphack and i can do key runs/meph runs fine, its of course slower but its fair and i wont risk getting banned
the only d2 thing ill bitch about is the bullshit realm down / restricted crap. that shit really pisses me off, and the majority of real botters get away free.
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also, hrs are not that hard to get. its hard to make them drop, but with a little luck you can drop a hr from a hellforge (vex), or get a decent rune like an ist or gul and simply cube them into Hrs. i dont think the rareness of a rune justifies cheating to get it
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On November 14 2008 18:44 JohnColtrane wrote:
a guy i knew got all 5 accounts banned, but he was using a combination of mh, d2loader and redvex. a few other guys got banned for mhing too, but i was fine. no ban for me. theres still bots spamming in public games and doing baal runs though
i dont think d2 is a skill-less game, not as skilled as starcraft obviously, but it takes a certain kind of experience and skill when you are pvping people. alot of luck too. also, you dont think duping is bad for diablo? duping items gives the duping person the advantage, whereas the person not duping doesnt have 10512512512 ber runes. you can argue that both people can dupe, fine, but both people can maphack in starcraft too and that would make it fair, right?
there is still some d2 clan wars going on and some scenes that do not support foul play like botting, duping, hacking etc. i dont maphack and i can do key runs/meph runs fine, its of course slower but its fair and i wont risk getting banned
the only d2 thing ill bitch about is the bullshit realm down / restricted crap. that shit really pisses me off, and the majority of real botters get away free.
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also, hrs are not that hard to get. its hard to make them drop, but with a little luck you can drop a hr from a hellforge (vex), or get a decent rune like an ist or gul and simply cube them into Hrs. i dont think the rareness of a rune justifies cheating to get it
Highest rune from a hellforge is Gul. For me, I agree in the fact that duping does give the duper a huge advantage. But I feel that it is necessary to make the higher end items practical and attainable for a more realistic amount of people. In order to "fix" the "market" I think it's worth it to have a small amount of users overpowered. The way I look at it duping in Diablo 2 is a way to make the "economy" realistic, rather than making a good amount of items impossible to get. I know some of you will never agree with me on this but I'm certainly not some hacker whose sole aim is to ruin others' fun and I don't support hacking in any other game that I know of.
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I beat the game on Hell single-player with a lvl 85 barb, it's not that hard but it does take a lot of time. I've never used any cheats or mods, and i must say i wonder what the point of all those high-level runewords is, since chances are virtually zero you'll ever get a rune from the last 11. I never did, at least, although the stormshield dropped for me^^. I'm against mh and duping/muling w/e but it should still be possible to get the best items legit for a number of people, even in sp.
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d2 maphack is fine i dunno what you guys are whining about. I guess if you were in a race on the ladder to get #1 you could have a valid complaint, but other than that its retarded.
Its not a competitive game
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what's wrong with muling? esp if you just get a friend to help you
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I don't think they really care...they're just trying to cut numbers down on the D2/SC servers because they're not bringing in money..."banning cheaters" is the perfect guise for executing their financial plan.
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why dont they realize there banning the wrong kind of people?
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On November 14 2008 18:07 writer22816 wrote:
It seems my opinion is really not what a lot of people think, so I'll try to explain more behind my thinking. For those of you who are wondering, I'm not pro-mbs and I definitely don't hack on BW. I've actually played a lot without dupes and cubing my runes up bit by bit. (128 ists make a Jah >_<)
Let's face it, diablo 2 is essentially a skill-less game. True you can do some shit like beating the game hardcore untwinked with no gear and stats by yourself on /players8 or whatever but whether or not you find that fun is your opinion (I certainly don't, I find it too depedent on luck and how many lightning enchanted conviction aura burning souls you encounter). Then again there's the pvp builds that require skill (barbs and assassins come to mind) but most of the game is about how much time you care to invest. I didn't like the game in this respect and I certainly didn't feel like investing a lot of time into it. The way I saw it Diablo 2 was a boring chore (just like a whole bunch of MMO's) about constantly doing baal runs, magic finds and trading just to get some gear. I did not find the game fun doing that. That is why I'm pro-mh/dupe in diablo 2. For me it doesn't break the game or the competition (there basically is none) but just saves me a lot of time and makes it possible to try everything in-game.
Obviously starcraft is a totally different thing, it's very skill-intensive and competition (which D2 mostly lacks) makes the game fun. Would i hack on this game? Absolutely not, it gives you a ridiculous advantage and destroys competition. Am I pro-mbs? No, I feel that it eliminates macro.
Maybe you like diablo a lot but i felt it was basically doing the same stuff over and over again...
Have you ever heard the phrase "life is not about getting to the destination, its about the journey" same thing applies to games. If you cheat all the way to the end what kind of challenge is that?
If you don't like the game, then you don't like the game. Don't hack it to enjoy it.. Find a new game.
And I know what Excal is talking about, Back when I played d2 (pre LOD) you could kinda tell how a level was gonna play out based on running it so many times. You just subconsciously know which ways to go even though it is randomly generated. You don't need a fucking map hack, its already easy.
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I havent heard of a single instance of someone getting banned for just chaos yet anybody know of any? It looks like chaos is fine so far
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