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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 13 2011 23:39 GMT
#1961
i really dont like how this launch is done.

7 days headstart is way too much, some will be close to max lvl before the normal people even buy the game.
And the artificially staggered invitations is just building up some kind of elitism from the people that got in early.


They should have done 4 days headstart and just send invites dynamically until the servers are full.
Aion and Rift launch was more impressive than this.
In those 2 games it was a huge invasion of players being thrown into the world, just like i remember it from my first mmo.
With this staggered launch and the multiple instances of 1 zone i doubt i will feel any excitement, it will just be another day solo questing.
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
December 13 2011 23:54 GMT
#1962
On December 14 2011 08:39 LaNague wrote:
i really dont like how this launch is done.

7 days headstart is way too much, some will be close to max lvl before the normal people even buy the game.
And the artificially staggered invitations is just building up some kind of elitism from the people that got in early.


They should have done 4 days headstart and just send invites dynamically until the servers are full.
Aion and Rift launch was more impressive than this.
In those 2 games it was a huge invasion of players being thrown into the world, just like i remember it from my first mmo.
With this staggered launch and the multiple instances of 1 zone i doubt i will feel any excitement, it will just be another day solo questing.

And this is the reason it might be better this way, Rift launch had A LOT of lagg the first few hours and Trion added waaaaaaaay too many servers so as soon as the launch-hype died down they had like 20 low pop servers.
Rift's launch was still one of the better MMO launches out there though, but not sure which way I prefer, both ways have pros and cons.

And no idea what you mean about people being max level before normal people start, why does that really matter?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 23:58:36
December 13 2011 23:57 GMT
#1963
And no idea what you mean about people being max level before normal people start, why does that really matter?


because for the ones behind this might as well be a 8 year old mmo. The feeling will be the same for like a month.





also, Eu server starting areas will be a ghosttown from now till 15:00, when the next waves get in. Just sad.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
December 14 2011 00:24 GMT
#1964
On December 14 2011 08:39 LaNague wrote:
i really dont like how this launch is done.

7 days headstart is way too much, some will be close to max lvl before the normal people even buy the game.
And the artificially staggered invitations is just building up some kind of elitism from the people that got in early.


They should have done 4 days headstart and just send invites dynamically until the servers are full.
Aion and Rift launch was more impressive than this.
In those 2 games it was a huge invasion of players being thrown into the world, just like i remember it from my first mmo.
With this staggered launch and the multiple instances of 1 zone i doubt i will feel any excitement, it will just be another day solo questing.


Agreed....7 days is just retarded. Saves a couple of days of lag maybe if that. Yea WoW release was terrible but servers have come a long way since then. Seems more like a cheap way to hype the game by getting people to pre-order -_-. Having people be max level (and they will be) before most people get the game is really dumb no matter which way you spin it.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 14 2011 00:36 GMT
#1965
On December 14 2011 09:24 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 08:39 LaNague wrote:
i really dont like how this launch is done.

7 days headstart is way too much, some will be close to max lvl before the normal people even buy the game.
And the artificially staggered invitations is just building up some kind of elitism from the people that got in early.


They should have done 4 days headstart and just send invites dynamically until the servers are full.
Aion and Rift launch was more impressive than this.
In those 2 games it was a huge invasion of players being thrown into the world, just like i remember it from my first mmo.
With this staggered launch and the multiple instances of 1 zone i doubt i will feel any excitement, it will just be another day solo questing.


Agreed....7 days is just retarded. Saves a couple of days of lag maybe if that. Yea WoW release was terrible but servers have come a long way since then. Seems more like a cheap way to hype the game by getting people to pre-order -_-. Having people be max level (and they will be) before most people get the game is really dumb no matter which way you spin it.


I think "just another day grinding" is the main issue here.

When everyone else is just starting, it's epic and awesome. When people are max level, people inbetween, and very few people in the actual starting zones -- it's just...oh look, another character in another MMO.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
December 14 2011 00:55 GMT
#1966
On December 14 2011 08:39 LaNague wrote:
i really dont like how this launch is done.

7 days headstart is way too much, some will be close to max lvl before the normal people even buy the game.
And the artificially staggered invitations is just building up some kind of elitism from the people that got in early.


They should have done 4 days headstart and just send invites dynamically until the servers are full.
Aion and Rift launch was more impressive than this.
In those 2 games it was a huge invasion of players being thrown into the world, just like i remember it from my first mmo.
With this staggered launch and the multiple instances of 1 zone i doubt i will feel any excitement, it will just be another day solo questing.

I feel like swtor is meant to be more casual, not in a "bad" way, just there is no emphasis on world first right now, maybe somewhere along the road this option will be viable. Right now it's just a game that is meant to be played for fun, without stress of grinding out profession, skills or mobs. Almost all "mechanics" of this game are set that way, they don't exclude hardcore pve/pve but they don't put much emphasis on it, even much much less then WoW does now.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
December 14 2011 00:55 GMT
#1967
Be sure to PM me if you want in on the Empire's East coast guild Notorious on The Twin Spears server. The guild's up now, and the republic guild on the same server will be made soon by mechavoc.
Streaming on twitch. http://www.twitch.tv/rahsun86
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 14 2011 00:59 GMT
#1968
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
December 14 2011 01:04 GMT
#1969
On December 14 2011 09:59 LeaD wrote:
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?


At least one day early, but few days? really hard to say.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 14 2011 01:08 GMT
#1970
On December 14 2011 10:04 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 09:59 LeaD wrote:
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?


At least one day early, but few days? really hard to say.


Thank you for the information, don't know if it's worth it then to order over Origin, since I've been hearing it has a lot of problems. I do want to try to get in early though, since my break is only so long .
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:14:48
December 14 2011 01:14 GMT
#1971
On December 14 2011 10:08 LeaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 10:04 Grettin wrote:
On December 14 2011 09:59 LeaD wrote:
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?


At least one day early, but few days? really hard to say.


Thank you for the information, don't know if it's worth it then to order over Origin, since I've been hearing it has a lot of problems. I do want to try to get in early though, since my break is only so long .




they said everyone will get 2 days. Question is if you can still get and redeem codes as the game allready launched.
also, you dont need origin for this game (yet), even if you bought it from there. You just need the retail code and then you can play from biowares launcher.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 14 2011 01:14 GMT
#1972
On December 14 2011 10:14 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 10:08 LeaD wrote:
On December 14 2011 10:04 Grettin wrote:
On December 14 2011 09:59 LeaD wrote:
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?


At least one day early, but few days? really hard to say.


Thank you for the information, don't know if it's worth it then to order over Origin, since I've been hearing it has a lot of problems. I do want to try to get in early though, since my break is only so long .




they said everyone will get 2 days. Question is if you can still get and redeem codes as the game allready launched.


Did they? Someone said 1 day guaranteed but yeah.
When I think of something else, something will go here
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 14 2011 01:14 GMT
#1973
On December 14 2011 10:14 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 10:08 LeaD wrote:
On December 14 2011 10:04 Grettin wrote:
On December 14 2011 09:59 LeaD wrote:
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?


At least one day early, but few days? really hard to say.


Thank you for the information, don't know if it's worth it then to order over Origin, since I've been hearing it has a lot of problems. I do want to try to get in early though, since my break is only so long .




they said everyone will get 2 days. Question is if you can still get and redeem codes as the game allready launched.


Well, technically it launches on the 20th and the site says that it's still taking pre-orders for possibly early entry.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:21:38
December 14 2011 01:17 GMT
#1974
On December 14 2011 10:08 LeaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 10:04 Grettin wrote:
On December 14 2011 09:59 LeaD wrote:
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?


At least one day early, but few days? really hard to say.


Thank you for the information, don't know if it's worth it then to order over Origin, since I've been hearing it has a lot of problems. I do want to try to get in early though, since my break is only so long .


Well, i heard that you can't play the game after 20th if you don't have the game in hour hands (activated product key). If i'm not right, correct me. So ordering from a digital store, is better idea and i'm pretty sure Origin gives the product keys in time. (They give out the pre-access code after the purchase.)

But to be honest, i would personally avoid Origin, but i bought it from there and i have had no problems yet.

About the early access, i have only heard that they will be letting every pre-orderer ONE DAY early. Who knows if you/everyone gets earlier, but ATLEAST one day before the launch is guaranteed.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 14 2011 01:20 GMT
#1975
On December 14 2011 10:17 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 10:08 LeaD wrote:
On December 14 2011 10:04 Grettin wrote:
On December 14 2011 09:59 LeaD wrote:
If I pre-order now, is it possible that I can get in at least a few days early?


At least one day early, but few days? really hard to say.


Thank you for the information, don't know if it's worth it then to order over Origin, since I've been hearing it has a lot of problems. I do want to try to get in early though, since my break is only so long .


Well, i heard that you can't play the game after 20th if you don't have the game in hour hands (activated product key). If i'm not right, correct me. So ordering from a digital store, is that way a better idea and i'm pretty sure Origin gives the product keys in time.

But to be honest, i would personally avoid Origin, but i bought it from there and i have had no problems yet.

About the early access, i have only heard that they will be letting every pre-orderer ONE DAY early. Who knows if you/everyone gets earlier, but ATLEAST one day before the launch is guaranteed.


Thank you for the information as well. I'll have to take a shot at least, I can always go through the hassle if the code doesn't work out and be tortured going through support.
mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
December 14 2011 01:29 GMT
#1976
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=9301

Uh oh.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 14 2011 01:40 GMT
#1977
yeah, you get full BG xp when queueing into an empty one that gets canceled after a minute.
And because they invited so few people that all servers are on "low", this happens quite often.


everyone who queues BGs is basically exploiting....
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:45:44
December 14 2011 01:43 GMT
#1978
On December 14 2011 10:40 LaNague wrote:
yeah, you get full BG xp when queueing into an empty one that gets canceled after a minute.
And because they invited so few people that all servers are on "low", this happens quite often.


everyone who queues BGs is basically exploiting....


Hmm, sounds interesting. But i don't care, they are missing a REALLY nice way to quest/level and also the story/lore, which is for me, the best thing in the game at the moment. It beat's WoW 100-0, EASILY. All the voice-acting, the quest videos and the story/lore is amazingly done and first time in MMO, i'm not frustrated or looking at the XP bar constantly and waiting for the next level.

Also, seems like they know about it.
"Hello all,

The Live Services and development teams are aware of the reports on this issue, and we're investigating. We'll take appropriate action against any players who are found to be exploiting the game in any way.

Thanks for your patience while we look into the issue."
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 14 2011 02:06 GMT
#1979
Weird, did anyone elses order on Origin take a long ass time? The order has been processing now for about 10-15 minutes.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 02:14:36
December 14 2011 02:12 GMT
#1980
On December 14 2011 11:06 LeaD wrote:
Weird, did anyone elses order on Origin take a long ass time? The order has been processing now for about 10-15 minutes.


They have had lots of problems today, they are fixing the issues. So most likely that is the case and cause.

"origin_EA Origin
We're aware of the issues accessing Origin. We’re investigating the cause, and will provide updates ASAP. Thanks for your patience."


Update: We’re still investigating the issues involving accessing Origin. We’re working as quickly as possible and appreciate your patience.


Have you checked Origin/bioware/ea forums?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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