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Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
June 28 2011 03:01 GMT
#421
I think in terms of tanking, from what I've seen of the gameplay, you're going to see fights end-game that require both tanks, if not every fight I'd venture to guess most. With the amount of comparisons I've seen to WoW, I wouldn't be surprised to see the same sort of thing where certain tank classes were better suited for different situations.

This of course isn't to say you'll be required to have both types of tank in your group, but I could only imagine it'd be helpful
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 03:16:25
June 28 2011 03:14 GMT
#422
On June 28 2011 11:56 neohero9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 11:30 Rah wrote:
What do you think will end up being the "raid tank" type between Sith warrior or a bounty hunter with their tanking spec? ... Warrior and warlock were my best classes on WoW.


Impossible to tell right now, for a few reasons.

First, few/no one in the NA test has bothered to hit lvl 50. This means the pool of people who are able to test which tanks are most raid-ready, even in certain situations, is very small. The only thing we do know is that there are at least two divisions of two types of tanks: Ranged/Melee, and Damage Soaker/Avoidance. Gun classes would be ranged, saber classes are melee. Juggernauts and Guardians are soakers, Shadows and Assassins are avoidance tanks.

Secondly, anyone who has hit 50 and started testing this stuff isn't talking about it publicly.

Thirdly, it's still a testing phase, and even as late in the game as it is, things are still changing. Abilities are being tweaked, removed, revised, and invented.

Lastly, we don't even know what the trees look like, completely. No tester has posted full trees, so we can't examine them and get theorycraft which talents work well together, and which trees look stronger. Part of this is due to the third issue: talents are still evolving.

Show nested quote +
What would be a good speculation on the strongest pvp class?


No clue. The only thing we do know is that in PVP characters have a long Time-to-Kill, and that everyone who's played any of the PVP has said it was freaking awesome. Particularly Huttball.

Re: your worries about Sniper and other ranged classes-- it has been confirmed by the devs that such classes will have range-keeping and range-creating abilities. One of the classes (not sure which) has a kind of knockback AOE that helps it get away from targets which have managed to close on it.


I noticed on the talents released so far juggernaut has an ability to reduce all forms of damage while the power tech seems to focus on only laser fire. So it's safe to assume bioware intends power tech to be the more situational tank with more utility? Also I think longer time-to-kill is bad for a range class. Sniper seems to be all about the set up and dropping their target quickly. Longer fight means more time to close in. I hope sniper can be good outside of situations where they use terrain well, or big battles, but I'm skeptical.

Powertech is looking nice to me in pvp right now with their abilities to rope players in, and fly up on the jetpack. Depends how well they stand up in a fight against jedis.
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neohero9
Profile Joined May 2010
United States595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 07:15:14
June 28 2011 07:14 GMT
#423
On June 28 2011 12:14 Rah wrote:
I noticed on the talents released so far juggernaut has an ability to reduce all forms of damage while the power tech seems to focus on only laser fire. So it's safe to assume bioware intends power tech to be the more situational tank with more utility? ...

Powertech is looking nice to me in pvp right now with their abilities to rope players in, and fly up on the jetpack. Depends how well they stand up in a fight against jedis.


No, I don't think it's safe to assume anything like that. As far as what's been released, we know of two talents in each of the trees of each AC. The fact that there are seven tiers, 41 points to play with, and few (if any) four or five point talents, means that two talents themselves may or may not be indicative of the tree to which they belong.

And the plural of 'Jedi' is 'Jedi'.
I cannot stand ignorance or dismissiveness. I edit every post I make-- I've edited this sig three times in an hour.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 28 2011 09:01 GMT
#424
So how many people on TL got into the beta? And can you go to levle 50 if you played enough? If so I'm so jealous that I only got to play as a bounty hunter or imperial agent T_T.
When I think of something else, something will go here
IreScath
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada521 Posts
June 28 2011 14:07 GMT
#425
On June 28 2011 18:01 blade55555 wrote:
So how many people on TL got into the beta? And can you go to levle 50 if you played enough? If so I'm so jealous that I only got to play as a bounty hunter or imperial agent T_T.


So someone that go into the beta is jealous?... I hate you. At least you got to play
IreScath
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
June 28 2011 15:42 GMT
#426
So what's the best way to get into the beta?
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
June 28 2011 15:52 GMT
#427
On June 29 2011 00:42 trainRiderJ wrote:
So what's the best way to get into the beta?


to opt in on swtor.com

None other right now.
"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 28 2011 18:44 GMT
#428
On June 28 2011 23:07 B00ts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 18:01 blade55555 wrote:
So how many people on TL got into the beta? And can you go to levle 50 if you played enough? If so I'm so jealous that I only got to play as a bounty hunter or imperial agent T_T.


So someone that go into the beta is jealous?... I hate you. At least you got to play


Only got a week with 2 classes I didn't care about back in november. Was pretty buggy to
When I think of something else, something will go here
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 28 2011 19:44 GMT
#429
On June 29 2011 00:42 trainRiderJ wrote:
So what's the best way to get into the beta?



Friend or Family of someone currently working at Bioware.

You could start looking on Eharmony for lonely game devs.


Too tired to come up with something witty.
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 28 2011 19:48 GMT
#430
On June 28 2011 12:14 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 11:56 neohero9 wrote:
On June 28 2011 11:30 Rah wrote:
What do you think will end up being the "raid tank" type between Sith warrior or a bounty hunter with their tanking spec? ... Warrior and warlock were my best classes on WoW.


Impossible to tell right now, for a few reasons.

First, few/no one in the NA test has bothered to hit lvl 50. This means the pool of people who are able to test which tanks are most raid-ready, even in certain situations, is very small. The only thing we do know is that there are at least two divisions of two types of tanks: Ranged/Melee, and Damage Soaker/Avoidance. Gun classes would be ranged, saber classes are melee. Juggernauts and Guardians are soakers, Shadows and Assassins are avoidance tanks.

Secondly, anyone who has hit 50 and started testing this stuff isn't talking about it publicly.

Thirdly, it's still a testing phase, and even as late in the game as it is, things are still changing. Abilities are being tweaked, removed, revised, and invented.

Lastly, we don't even know what the trees look like, completely. No tester has posted full trees, so we can't examine them and get theorycraft which talents work well together, and which trees look stronger. Part of this is due to the third issue: talents are still evolving.

What would be a good speculation on the strongest pvp class?


No clue. The only thing we do know is that in PVP characters have a long Time-to-Kill, and that everyone who's played any of the PVP has said it was freaking awesome. Particularly Huttball.

Re: your worries about Sniper and other ranged classes-- it has been confirmed by the devs that such classes will have range-keeping and range-creating abilities. One of the classes (not sure which) has a kind of knockback AOE that helps it get away from targets which have managed to close on it.


I noticed on the talents released so far juggernaut has an ability to reduce all forms of damage while the power tech seems to focus on only laser fire. So it's safe to assume bioware intends power tech to be the more situational tank with more utility? Also I think longer time-to-kill is bad for a range class. Sniper seems to be all about the set up and dropping their target quickly. Longer fight means more time to close in. I hope sniper can be good outside of situations where they use terrain well, or big battles, but I'm skeptical.

Powertech is looking nice to me in pvp right now with their abilities to rope players in, and fly up on the jetpack. Depends how well they stand up in a fight against jedis.


They are still balancing roles, they recently added more healing classes which lead to some fairly hilarious discussions on how the Smuggler is going to heal (Hint: It's likely going to be Kolto shots, so you might get to shoot your allies to help them)

So I wouldn't count anything out just yet.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
June 28 2011 20:40 GMT
#431
PM me if u want to buy my beta... 100$$

User was temp banned for this post.
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Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
June 28 2011 20:51 GMT
#432
Wow... I hope that's a joke or a sad martyr wish.

What does it matter how I loose it?
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
June 28 2011 22:52 GMT
#433
On June 29 2011 05:40 sad.wish wrote:
PM me if u want to buy my beta... 100$$


Wouldn't work because once they detect a different ip logging in they close the account, its in the game testing faq
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
June 28 2011 23:13 GMT
#434
On June 29 2011 07:52 smallerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 05:40 sad.wish wrote:
PM me if u want to buy my beta... 100$$


Wouldn't work because once they detect a different ip logging in they close the account, its in the game testing faq


Don't see how this would work considering certain ISP cycle IP addresses for their customers. For instance I have comcast and my IP changes quite frequently. It has to be something a little more then IP address, even if that's what's on the FAQ
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
freddievercetti
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
224 Posts
June 28 2011 23:17 GMT
#435
How big of a change is a IP address cycle? I mean it its like the last 3 numbers for a location a wildcard would do.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 23:32:48
June 28 2011 23:32 GMT
#436
Yes, your ip adress is cycled, but its only the last few numbers that change.The first few numbers determine which datacenter you are connected to, and those wont be changed.

My previous isp my ip started by 192, on this isp it starts by 213.If the first few numbers change, it triggers the security system.

WoW had a similar security sistem, if my friend that has the same isp as me logged in my account, it wouldnt get locked, but if my other friend that had a different isp logged in, the account would get locked.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 28 2011 23:38 GMT
#437
Hmm when I had the beta for a week I let 2 of my friends use it and it didn't get locked or anything (by friends in different states one in florida and one in another one while i'm in idaho). :p
When I think of something else, something will go here
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 28 2011 23:44 GMT
#438
This should be very trying for Bioware's staff, and infrastructure.

Hadouken!
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teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
June 29 2011 00:06 GMT
#439
sPsBlade, for this game?
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smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
June 29 2011 00:43 GMT
#440
On June 29 2011 08:38 blade55555 wrote:
Hmm when I had the beta for a week I let 2 of my friends use it and it didn't get locked or anything (by friends in different states one in florida and one in another one while i'm in idaho). :p


I still wouldnt be comfortable lending my account to someone out of my country.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
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