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On July 08 2011 07:03 Mattes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 06:55 Zerothegreat wrote: Anyone have an idea what the last download files are? I'm on "Main Assets 7" and it's taking forever! Its about 28-29gigs. There are 13 main assets, and 13 englisch assets (which i presume are mainly soundfiles, because the first one is already 7gig large).
I definitely saw a screenshot from someone downloading the beta which showed it being 38.1GB.
I'll see if I can go scrounge that up for you.
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On July 08 2011 07:19 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 07:01 Cite wrote: So you have the download infront of you presumably with the download speed and size yet cannot figure it out but choose to post? Just because I know things on the internet aren't THAT HARD (It makes me want to punch my face in a beta tester like above gets in T.T) but from words on the forums 27.5 gigs for the beta client sooooo without any other info you can do the maths and figure how much time you have left to dl that! (btw nice subtle double brag more or less is what im getting at :|)
I'm sure I've downloaded about 40gigs now sir. You don't download the whole thing at once it is in different sections. You have no way of knowing how many there are too. I've been downloading since last night and seems I have another day or so to go. Don't be mad at me, I've been waiting for this for years. Be mad at bioware 
Sigh Im sorry it just came off the wrong way when I read your post and by all means you are right in the end damn you BW
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Downloaded the whole client last night and have been playing it for quite a while now... The pic is the fully installed client to, hopefully, stop the size discussion! XD
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On July 08 2011 07:27 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 07:03 Mattes wrote:On July 08 2011 06:55 Zerothegreat wrote: Anyone have an idea what the last download files are? I'm on "Main Assets 7" and it's taking forever! Its about 28-29gigs. There are 13 main assets, and 13 englisch assets (which i presume are mainly soundfiles, because the first one is already 7gig large). I definitely saw a screenshot from someone downloading the beta which showed it being 38.1GB. I'll see if I can go scrounge that up for you.
Dude, i have it on my hdd, its not 38 GB.
//like the guy above me says, its 27,5 right now (and with each new patch some hundred mbs more (last one was around 280mb iirc)
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I'm sorry, but all I am seeing over and over is just WoW reskinned.
Believe me when I say I want to be proven wrong and this game be fucking amazing. But from the ME dialogue wheel, horrendous graphics with clunky as fuck animations, extremely cookie cutter quests (see pic) and very bland spells that may as well be every WoW spell with a Star Wars twist on it (from the couple of hours of streamed Trooper/Sith Inquisitor/Jedi Knight gameplay I've seen), I can't help but think this game is going to be a massive train wreck.
It's gonna sell, it's fucking Star Wars -- of course it will. But Christ, it looks bland and boring as fuck. Perhaps I'm just spoiled with glamor and hope from + Show Spoiler +
I'll probably try out the Demo or something when it becomes public though before I definitely say it sucks though.
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Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol
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The biggest issue I have with SW:TOR are the amazingly bad animations and eve you Fruscainte confirm it.
On the contrary people were saying "ah, the animations are bad because it's not 3rd person footage". Makes perfect sense!
I really like the aesthetics of the game, but animations, spells and being story driven mmo make me less than interested in the game. Waiting for GW2.
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On July 09 2011 04:07 Percutio wrote: Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol
He just wants to make sure we all know
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I really like the animations when it's 2 melee people in combat, the way the swords interact and stuff. Less so when a melee guy is being shot in the face by the pistol dude as he hacks away with the lightsaber doing small amounts of damage at a time.
Still, a WoW skin if done RIGHT would probably be awesome. I enjoy WoW, whatever the critics say, I'm just fed up with Blizzard. Also I'm a Star Wars and Bioware fanboi.
GW2 appeals to me too, but GW2 is free to play. So I'll definately play them both at least on release, and either continue to play both, or commit to one fully.
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and being story driven mmo make me less than interested in the game
This actually makes me so much MORE interested. It'll be nice that quests aren't just walls of text I ignore for once.
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On July 09 2011 04:16 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 04:07 Percutio wrote: Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol He just wants to make sure we all know 
And there are people with 40+ posts praising the game. I see something about the game that I think sucks or is interesting, I'll post about it. I've had some positive posts in this thread too 
My dedication does not take away from my points legitimacy though.
On July 09 2011 04:19 IMABUNNEH wrote:This actually makes me so much MORE interested. It'll be nice that quests aren't just walls of text I ignore for once.
If I wanted a compelling story I'd read a book. I'm buying a video game, I want fun gameplay.
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On July 08 2011 07:13 Xinder wrote:I never get invites for these beta things  Don't feel bad, I never get one either I want to play this game sooo bad!
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On July 09 2011 04:24 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 04:16 blade55555 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:07 Percutio wrote: Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol He just wants to make sure we all know  And there are people with 40+ posts praising the game. I see something about the game that I think sucks or is interesting, I'll post about it. I've had some positive posts in this thread too  Can you point out these positive posts? I've been reading this thread because I'm interested in the game, and with one exception (linking a video, which is more neutral than it is positive), all your posts have consisted of either:
1) Naming a feature of the game and expressing how it has turned you off. 2) Arguing with someone else in the thread.
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Never played an MMO but beat KOTOR and KOTOR 2 over 20 times each. I'll be playing the shit out of the old republic
<3 bioware RPG's
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On July 09 2011 04:54 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 04:24 Fruscainte wrote:On July 09 2011 04:16 blade55555 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:07 Percutio wrote: Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol He just wants to make sure we all know  And there are people with 40+ posts praising the game. I see something about the game that I think sucks or is interesting, I'll post about it. I've had some positive posts in this thread too  Can you point out these positive posts? I've been reading this thread because I'm interested in the game, and with one exception (linking a video, which is more neutral than it is positive), all your posts have consisted of either: 1) Naming a feature of the game and expressing how it has turned you off. 2) Arguing with someone else in the thread.
If you're telling me you want me to skim through this entire thread to find you positive feedback from me, I'd call you crazy. If you are expecting me to sift through my posting history when I've been posting in this thread since I've had about 1200 posts, you're even more crazy.
Oh boy, that was another negative one. ;-;
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On July 09 2011 05:12 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 04:54 city42 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:24 Fruscainte wrote:On July 09 2011 04:16 blade55555 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:07 Percutio wrote: Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol He just wants to make sure we all know  And there are people with 40+ posts praising the game. I see something about the game that I think sucks or is interesting, I'll post about it. I've had some positive posts in this thread too  Can you point out these positive posts? I've been reading this thread because I'm interested in the game, and with one exception (linking a video, which is more neutral than it is positive), all your posts have consisted of either: 1) Naming a feature of the game and expressing how it has turned you off. 2) Arguing with someone else in the thread. If you're telling me you want me to skim through this entire thread to find you positive feedback from me, I'd call you crazy. If you are expecting me to sift through my posting history when I've been posting in this thread since I've had about 1200 posts, you're even more crazy. Oh boy, that was another negative one. ;-; Good spin attempt, but I already did it for you. I went through the thread with your name on ctrl+F, and did not find a single positive post. This is the closest you came:
On June 09 2011 12:15 Fruscainte wrote: On a real note, it's just going to be difficult to balance Force Users and Non-Force Users. It's going to be a good slipping slope here. Either they over compensate and non force users like Bounty Hunters and whatnot are far too strong and are overused, or Force Users are ridiculously strong (as they should be) and the other classes are pathetically bad.
Let's hope they can balance that right. Because, at least in KoTOR and KoTOR 2, you needed some Jedi in your party. You could not go blaster or something because Jedi was infinitely better in every possible way.
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Eh, like anything I've heard good and bad things. One of the allures right now is that some people wrote on betacake that the combat was fast paced which I like quite a lot. My friend who's in beta compared it to Vanilla WoW in pacing, which I like a lot. The only concern I have is there is a resilience like stat, I hope it's mild!
I don't expect a revolution in quest directives, what I do expect however is that people will care more about the quests and make it more fun to level.
Aesthetically the animations are fine to me, when I watch that "choreographed" combat I get a little disillusioned because I play a much more active "bunnyhopping" style. The choreographed combat doesn't prevent my style though so that's fine. I have a favorable impression of the gameplay when it's being played by someone decent.
The problem I've seen so far with criticisms of the game is that they're incoherent babbling without a lot of structure. "I hate deez qeusts thererre so borrrrrrrrring."
Here are some concerns I have as someone who hasn't played the game:
- There are only four flashpoints per faction at the moment. WoW had 19 dungeons from 1-60. Were they amazing? No, some of them were a pain in the ass, but I still think there should be more for this game at launch.
- How long will it take for them to add content patches with a fully voiced mmo?
- I've heard conflicting things about the unique quest lines or your "class" quest line. I've heard they comprise a large portion of your questing from 1-50, on the other hand I've heard they aren't that prevalent. If they're not as prevalent after the origin world then how will it feel like a unique experience to hit 50 with a different class?
What I'm excited about:
- PvP, as mentioned before I've heard good things. I also like the lack of flying mounts and the developers mentioned having quests cross in areas in the world which will be awesome for world pvp. Honestly, as long as the pvp in this game is awesome I would be fine at 50.
- Flashpoints/questing will be more fun than mindlessly accepting quests and doing them without any investment in the character. Don't get me wrong, I'm good at grinding quests that have no meaning, but this sounds much more enjoyable.
- Star Wars :D
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On July 09 2011 05:31 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 05:12 Fruscainte wrote:On July 09 2011 04:54 city42 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:24 Fruscainte wrote:On July 09 2011 04:16 blade55555 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:07 Percutio wrote: Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol He just wants to make sure we all know  And there are people with 40+ posts praising the game. I see something about the game that I think sucks or is interesting, I'll post about it. I've had some positive posts in this thread too  Can you point out these positive posts? I've been reading this thread because I'm interested in the game, and with one exception (linking a video, which is more neutral than it is positive), all your posts have consisted of either: 1) Naming a feature of the game and expressing how it has turned you off. 2) Arguing with someone else in the thread. If you're telling me you want me to skim through this entire thread to find you positive feedback from me, I'd call you crazy. If you are expecting me to sift through my posting history when I've been posting in this thread since I've had about 1200 posts, you're even more crazy. Oh boy, that was another negative one. ;-; Good spin attempt, but I already did it for you. I went through the thread with your name on ctrl+F, and did not find a single positive post. This is the closest you came: Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 12:15 Fruscainte wrote: On a real note, it's just going to be difficult to balance Force Users and Non-Force Users. It's going to be a good slipping slope here. Either they over compensate and non force users like Bounty Hunters and whatnot are far too strong and are overused, or Force Users are ridiculously strong (as they should be) and the other classes are pathetically bad.
Let's hope they can balance that right. Because, at least in KoTOR and KoTOR 2, you needed some Jedi in your party. You could not go blaster or something because Jedi was infinitely better in every possible way.
Then let appease your immature crusade against me:
Mythic is a God at making PvP, so that is in the games favor.
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On July 09 2011 05:36 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 05:31 city42 wrote:On July 09 2011 05:12 Fruscainte wrote:On July 09 2011 04:54 city42 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:24 Fruscainte wrote:On July 09 2011 04:16 blade55555 wrote:On July 09 2011 04:07 Percutio wrote: Fruscainte you have 40+ posts in this thread pretty much all bashing the game.
That is some dedication lol He just wants to make sure we all know  And there are people with 40+ posts praising the game. I see something about the game that I think sucks or is interesting, I'll post about it. I've had some positive posts in this thread too  Can you point out these positive posts? I've been reading this thread because I'm interested in the game, and with one exception (linking a video, which is more neutral than it is positive), all your posts have consisted of either: 1) Naming a feature of the game and expressing how it has turned you off. 2) Arguing with someone else in the thread. If you're telling me you want me to skim through this entire thread to find you positive feedback from me, I'd call you crazy. If you are expecting me to sift through my posting history when I've been posting in this thread since I've had about 1200 posts, you're even more crazy. Oh boy, that was another negative one. ;-; Good spin attempt, but I already did it for you. I went through the thread with your name on ctrl+F, and did not find a single positive post. This is the closest you came: On June 09 2011 12:15 Fruscainte wrote: On a real note, it's just going to be difficult to balance Force Users and Non-Force Users. It's going to be a good slipping slope here. Either they over compensate and non force users like Bounty Hunters and whatnot are far too strong and are overused, or Force Users are ridiculously strong (as they should be) and the other classes are pathetically bad.
Let's hope they can balance that right. Because, at least in KoTOR and KoTOR 2, you needed some Jedi in your party. You could not go blaster or something because Jedi was infinitely better in every possible way. Then let appease your immature crusade against me: Mythic is a God at making PvP, so that is in the games favor. You've made very little attempt at constructive criticism. It's all stuff like "God damnit bioware. God fucking damnit," "I feel a major flop incoming," and "My god this game looks like shit." Now which one of us is on the crusade again? All I'm asking for is an explanation for a statement. Given that you're a proficient rhetor, I know you wouldn't resort to lying in order to defend yourself. Those positive posts are out there somewhere! Go look for them the same way OJ went looking for the real killers.
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I was really really excited when i started following this game back in january this year. As alot of other people i played kotor back when it was released (Or actully, my brother played it and i watched and we discussed the different dialog options and actions).
The buzz was that it would be released this spring so i checked the official forums about 3 times everyday for a month. After a month i got tired of it. Anyways my point is that it will be atleast half a year, maby even a year before this game is released, and after seeing some gameplay videos i can say for sure that im not really that impressed. I mean, the dialog thing looks really awsome but when u remove that it looks and plays out exactly as WoW, which isnt a bad thing if u want alot of players.
I would actully prefer another Kotor game with upgraded graphics, similar to the Me3.
Ofcourse, i will buy it nevertheless. But i cant say i will play it after ive gone trough it once or twice.
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