Star Wars - The Old Republic - Page 217

On February 04 2012 23:57 Arnstein wrote:
Are there less content in end-game than in WoW? Because all my friends say that it's the same amount.

On February 03 2012 23:35 Executor1 wrote:
Also for instance in every wow expansion the begining raid content is usually lacking . When i think of WOTLK launch they had naxx, the wg raid boss, and the sanctum dragon. Aside from like 3 drakes up i cleared all the raid content long before ulduar came out but as more raid content came out that was more difficult and i settled into a more relaxed playing schedule i actually fell behind in raid content a little bit and considering the huge team BW has developing content like yyou said and they plan on releasing a big patch every 2 months i think they will catch up to alot of raiders quite fast. Early raid content is always supposed to be introductory and fairly easy anyways. I think with WOTLK it was a bit easier to get away with it though, because most people had alts and multiple characters to level up and gear out.

On February 04 2012 00:16 Calm wrote:
Furthermore, and it's been said before, you end up with a cookie-cutter character with no customization whatsoever. And that's especially a problem when you play a sage and are supposed to dress up like Pippa Middleton at the royal wedding (fascinator included)

On February 05 2012 00:01 MisterD wrote:

are you kidding? a one month old game having the same amount of end-game content as a 8 year old game? xD Just think about that, should answer your question.

bug of the day: I just got stunned in the middle of a warzone and then proceeded to remain stunned for about one minute. Then the enemy team returned, punched me while i was unable to move for another 30 seconds until i finally died. Then i respawned at the spawn point and continued to be stunned, couldn't move or use any abilities (not even cc breaker -.-) until i was kicked out of the warzone a minute later due to inactivity, 20 seconds before we would have won -.- raaaage

On February 05 2012 04:30 MisterD wrote:
bug of the day: I just got stunned in the middle of a warzone and then proceeded to remain stunned for about one minute. Then the enemy team returned, punched me while i was unable to move for another 30 seconds until i finally died. Then i respawned at the spawn point and continued to be stunned, couldn't move or use any abilities (not even cc breaker -.-) until i was kicked out of the warzone a minute later due to inactivity, 20 seconds before we would have won -.- raaaage

On February 05 2012 00:47 Arnstein wrote:


The current raids etc. are the level 85 raids. You can't think about the level 60, 70 etc, since they are not end-game anymore.

On February 05 2012 03:05 Wildsound wrote:
Kind of hit a dead end with my powertech now.
I hit Battlemaster PvP rank last week, so there is no incentive for me to pvp anymore except to complete the 2 daily missions for the battlemaster bags. Basically grinding out for full battlemaster set which will probably take at least a month solid to get, with the hope that rated warzones will come out soon.
I am full columi + PvE gear, so there is no incentive for me to do flashpoints anymore, Nightmare mode operations is the only thing worth doing but that is purely to grind out rakata gear, and as you need a raiding guild to do it, your time doing them is rather limited.

Hopefully they will keep upgrading and adding things to the endgame, cause once you hit the level im at, there is almost nothing to do but level an alt.

On February 05 2012 16:23 Executor1 wrote:
I have a question actually, what drops from 16 mans normals is it tier 1/2 as well but it just drops more of it?

and im assuming hard mode drops rakata right? so what does nightmare mode drop then?

On February 05 2012 16:08 Executor1 wrote:

I wouldnt say its the same since cata has had many content patches, but i would say its the same that cata had at launch in terms of endgame content. If not slightly more with ilum 3 wz's quite a few hard mode flashpoints and normal, hard and nightmare mode 8 and 16 man operations.

Also they kept the full development team so they will be releasing a major content patch every 2 months (at least thats the plan) with wow i felt like i was lucky to see a major patch every 5 months.

On February 05 2012 21:25 Seiniyta wrote:


I'm still a bit skeptical with a major patch every two months. Either they recycle alot of the assets or they have a mini army with alot of hamsters working day and night producing new content. I'm worried about the quality of the content. in WoW, some of the raids were really someting special visually etc. Sure they used alot of the old models but overall it was real new content. They recycled maybe a bit too much in Cataclysm though.

But for example, Karahzan, Ulduar, Icecrown Citadel aren't really places I'll forget anytime soon. Ulduar had a developement time of 7-8 months and it showed. imo the best WoW raid.

I've been playing less and less SWTOR since there's so many things that annoy me which WoW does alot better.

* Interface: 0 custominzation pretty much, the update for that is lackluster.

* Static worlds: no day night cycle, no real weather changes. Why not? Wouldn't it be awesome seeing the suns of Tatooine very slowly move?

* Flashpoints aren't really memorable compared to a Deadmines etc.

*Combat: The combat seems to missing some fluidity to it, yeah it's fun to see how your lightsabers returns laser shots but the combat in WoW feels more *responsive*. That could just be though.

* Infuriating spawns/pop up?. I see a elite standing alone, smiling as I'm going to take him down. Just as I start fighting him 5 more guys spawn/pop in and make the fight impossible to win.

*Low resolution clothing of your main character. You have those incredible vistat's at times and then you look at your own character's clothes and realize they are a lower resolution then WoW's current one. Kind of pathetic.

* The voice acting is fine for the main storyline, but the sidequests are pretty meh overall and there I started to just press space because they don't have anything interesting to tell.

*The first M of MMO is sort of lacking. It might just be due the small amount of republic players but it doesn't really feel like an MMO almost. THe fleet is generally quiet, here and there on a planet there's some chatter but it almost just feels like a singleplayer game.

*Linear: It's even more linear then current days wow, going from planet to planet in a straight line, barely ever deviating it unless you outlevel a planet and skip one.

* During quests when you have to use a item you have to open your inventory, go to the quest part to select it. Why didn't Bioware do it like WoW where it's at the right side of the screen next to the quest? [/nitpick]

Those are pretty much the things that hold me back enjoying the game. Some of the things I haven't touched since to be frank I can't blame Bioware for a lack of content in certain area's. Some parts of the game are really good (companions, heal on the spot without relying on potions and such) but overall WoW still is better (for me)

On February 05 2012 21:41 Executor1 wrote:

They are adding customizations though, i dont know a single mmo that had ui customizations or allowed user UI's from the begining (rift may have done it i dont know)

Damage meters and Such are currently in the works by bioware though, i think a bioware damage meter would turn out alot better than a user built one.

They talk about quite a few of those things here : http://torwars.com/wp-content/uploads/Podcasts/fan_sum_02_qa_georg_zoeller.mp3

This was post launch but he talks about certain ui customizations not being ready for launch but will be ready in the not so distant future such as damage meters. Also combat logs are one their way!

Also they are currently working on releasing a Cinematic graphic settings, aka it will look the same as it does in cinematics (i think the gaame looks fantastic when im talking to npc's."

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/4766/article/the-old-republic-will-be-getting-a-graphical-update/

They spent alot of time on the leveling process thats one thing ill admit, but it is a fantastic leveling process and it ruined all other mmo's for me. I could NEVER see myself going back and leveling up a character in a game like wow after this, ever.

Say you start the game now though , unless you play insane amounts by the time you hit 50 and start running EV the new content will be out.

In the new patch they are adding , a new planet, new class stories, new raid, new end game flashpoint. The full Legacy system, LFG system may make it into the patch not sure yet. New space combat missions. Guild Banks, Custom UI's. , A new pvp warzone, Full PVP ranking system.

Thats a pretty big update and they plan to do something like that every few months. It sounds like they have a mini army, aka they kept their whole development team.

Also begining raid content in any game is usually pretty easy, im mostly going based off wow, but whenever an expansion came out the first content that came out was always so easy compared to the following raids.

1 thing i think BW should do is make nightmare modes have no tier pieces but have like best in slot items where you have to make a decision weather its worth it to break up your tier bonus for them, and like best in slot relics and offhands stuff like that.

I dont want to only be wearing tier pieces, there were lots of times in wow when i would choose a better item to break up my tier set (mostly not though they could have done it better in wow too)

On February 05 2012 21:41 Executor1 wrote:


Also begining raid content in any game is usually pretty easy, im mostly going based off wow, but whenever an expansion came out the first content that came out was always so easy compared to the following raids.

On February 05 2012 22:55 Ighox wrote:

That's a pretty valid excuse if we were just talking about normal and hardmode, but nightmare mode should live up to it's name and be really really hard.