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On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip
Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc.
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Thank god my m8 let my log on on his account to check out the game before i bought it. Now granted i dont have a top end pc but i can run Skyrim on high and Bf3 on med with decent fps. This game is unplayable on anything other than low. Even then when i look in the generel direction of a building the game slows down to a crawl. So i went on the forums seeking a solution. I found a 13k+ replay thread about the problem with no working solution. The devs regularly post that they are aware of the issue but "dont expect a miracle fix". Message recieved, not getting my money.
Too bad since this was supposed to be my first MMO game. Guess ill have to wait ( and pray ) for Guild Wars 2.
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On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers.
Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game....
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On February 02 2012 18:10 Butcherski wrote: Thank god my m8 let my log on on his account to check out the game before i bought it. Now granted i dont have a top end pc but i can run Skyrim on high and Bf3 on med with decent fps. This game is unplayable on anything other than low. Even then when i look in the generel direction of a building the game slows down to a crawl. So i went on the forums seeking a solution. I found a 13k+ replay thread about the problem with no working solution. The devs regularly post that they are aware of the issue but "dont expect a miracle fix". Message recieved, not getting my money.
Too bad since this was supposed to be my first MMO game. Guess ill have to wait ( and pray ) for Guild Wars 2. Hmm strange, i play max everything and i have just a fairly decent setup. I do know there are problems with framerates with certain setups though and they are working on fixing that.
my setup i7 2700k oc'd to 4.6 8 gigs ddr3 1600 ram radeon hd 6950 1gb 120 gig kingston sata 2 ssd Asus p8p67 pro rev 3.1 mobo.
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Growing Player Base, High Quality Service and New Game Updates Drive Successful Start for the Critically-Acclaimed MMO from BioWare and LucasArts rofl.. what a joke. their customer service is so bad
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On February 02 2012 18:19 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 18:12 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers. Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game.... The ongoing constant drop can't really be called a success ![[image loading]](http://www.mmo-junkies.net/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/us-yearly-big.png) That site only guages weather a server is high medium or low and finds its satistics based on that. People getting into a more normal playing rythm as they get to 50 and the increase in max server populations can explain that .
1.7 million active subscriptions isnt a number they pulled out of their ass, it comes from the information they have on their servers. Clearly the population has grown since launch. You could get in serious trouble lying about it in a press release because it could lul investors into a false sense of security.
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On February 02 2012 18:20 Enox wrote:Show nested quote +Growing Player Base, High Quality Service and New Game Updates Drive Successful Start for the Critically-Acclaimed MMO from BioWare and LucasArts rofl.. what a joke. their customer service is so bad Yea i agree the customer service isnt that great, ive been waiting to get a piece of loot changed for almost a week (by accident i picked the scoundrel gear set instead of the gunslinger one for my columi head piece token T_T)
Although they have been addressing many of the issues customer have had in terms of bug fixes etc with patches. Dealing with CS on a personal level in game is a different story though.
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On February 02 2012 17:44 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 17:17 supdubdup wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. The same mmo that magically loss its "cancel" button the day before the free trials ran out? lol. Didn't for me. I could cancel I even tested on the day it "disappeared". It only happened for some people, but there was a workaround that worked very well so anyone who bothered to visit the forums could still cancel.
On February 02 2012 18:19 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 18:12 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers. Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game.... The ongoing constant drop can't really be called a success ![[image loading]](http://www.mmo-junkies.net/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/us-yearly-big.png) Yeah because that's an accurate population tracker.
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On February 02 2012 18:26 Ighox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 17:44 blade55555 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:17 supdubdup wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. The same mmo that magically loss its "cancel" button the day before the free trials ran out? lol. Didn't for me. I could cancel I even tested on the day it "disappeared". It only happened for some people, but there was a workaround that worked very well so anyone who bothered to visit the forums could still cancel. Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 18:19 zeru wrote:On February 02 2012 18:12 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers. Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game.... The ongoing constant drop can't really be called a success ![[image loading]](http://www.mmo-junkies.net/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/us-yearly-big.png) Yeah because that's an accurate population tracker. Haha yea seriously thats what i was thinking. Especially considering we dont know how many or by how much. Plus there is a very big difference between standard on the low end and standard on the high end of things.
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On February 02 2012 18:34 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 18:26 Ighox wrote:On February 02 2012 17:44 blade55555 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:17 supdubdup wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. The same mmo that magically loss its "cancel" button the day before the free trials ran out? lol. Didn't for me. I could cancel I even tested on the day it "disappeared". It only happened for some people, but there was a workaround that worked very well so anyone who bothered to visit the forums could still cancel. On February 02 2012 18:19 zeru wrote:On February 02 2012 18:12 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers. Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game.... The ongoing constant drop can't really be called a success ![[image loading]](http://www.mmo-junkies.net/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/us-yearly-big.png) Yeah because that's an accurate population tracker. It's quite accurate actually yes. Feel free to read up on how it gathers and sums the statistics up. http://www.mmo-junkies.net/statistics You think thats accurate. It gathers the server status data and considering they raised the max server population that can account for a majority of it, that and the christmas holidays ending and the excitement of a new game and launch fading as people get into more normal playing patterns. not to mention as they raised server populations the gaps in between the status's grew so the difference in between heavy on the high end of things and low end of things is significant, even more so with standard. Also 300,000 people did quit, for the naysayers that is reasonably large number.
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On February 02 2012 18:12 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers. Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game.... You're right there are only 6 light servers http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/stats
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On February 02 2012 18:51 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 18:12 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers. Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game.... You're right there are only 6 light servers http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/stats Well right now servers just went up and every server is light, whats your point. Im talking about mid day when the servers are actually active i counted them 2 days ago a 4pm on NA their were 6 and thats not even peak hours 6-8 is peak
You guys need to stop linking all these meaningless server pop sites they all go off the exact same info linking more of them doesnt make them any more valid.
Im sorry you guys are bitter that the game is doing well....
Im not even denying it has its problems it certainly does, but i still enjoy it and it seems like alot of others do as well.
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There was two weeks ago patch that increased the maximum amount of people allowed on the servers (night before i had queues to enter , the night after it was normal).
Don't understand all the hate in this thread , but as a guy who played wow for 7 years Swtor leveling experience is MUCH better then any MMO i played before . that said if storyline is not your thing , then swtor is not for you.
Only major criticism i have for swtor up to this point is not all the flashpoints (aka dungeons) are built to the same level. some are amazing (black talon) some are quite boring (colllocide wars)
Can't comment on end game yet , cause i only 45 on my main , but for the few level 50's in my guild they were surprised to the better.
p.s sorry in advance for my English
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EA released their earnings yesterday for the shareholders and SEC as well as other reports that detail how many copies of each game they sold in each quarter etc, there were numbers of SWTOR copies sold something like 2 mill and active subscribers remaining 1.6-.17 mill etc ( you can easily find it online if u search for it ), while things could be better gameplay wise, it is not the end of the world like some people in this thread suggest.
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On February 02 2012 06:51 schimmetje wrote: Look at the bonus missions to fill levelling gaps or the affection meter vs level-bound companion conversations for example. They're stretching things out too obviously and have some other things in there just because an MMO has to have them, but not really integrated in the whole yet. And other things feel like they just ran out of time, the first flashpoint on each faction side was so great and then.. that was it /sadface.
I'd say every flashpoint which has a hardmode has a good story. The leveling only flashpoints are a bit dull, I agree.
Bonus Missions - you can skip the majority of them. My guardian did 0 PvP while leveling, 0 space missions and I never logged out in a cantina/ship (to prevent rested XP). I did all bonus missions / series and was overleveled for most of the content (until ~45 when the first missions were yellow). Currently I play my vanguard - rested XP, PvP, Space Missions. I skip basically every bonus mission (unless it's like "Kill one more guy!") and again - I'm 34, doing lv 30 missions on Aldaraan. I dont really see the leveling gabs.
And I like the affection / level based companion stuff. I have a lv12 scoundrel for some crafting missions, and his companion is already has 6000 affection (gifts). When I have time/interest to level the scoundrel he will have 10k. I'm glad that I can look forward to his story, not have everything already done.
On February 02 2012 18:34 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 18:26 Ighox wrote:On February 02 2012 17:44 blade55555 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:17 supdubdup wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. The same mmo that magically loss its "cancel" button the day before the free trials ran out? lol. Didn't for me. I could cancel I even tested on the day it "disappeared". It only happened for some people, but there was a workaround that worked very well so anyone who bothered to visit the forums could still cancel. On February 02 2012 18:19 zeru wrote:On February 02 2012 18:12 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 18:05 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:50 Executor1 wrote:On February 02 2012 17:21 Silidons wrote:On February 02 2012 17:13 Executor1 wrote:Press release got released today revealing the actual subscription numbers and the sales for SWTOR. Very encouraging numbers and the ones everyone has been waiting for. 1.7 million subscribers as of yesterday is nothing to snuff at, especiallly considering its many days after 1 to 1.5 million of those subscribers had their first free month run out. Here is the link, it seems as if the population is in fact growing, which would support why my server seems to have many more players than it did at launch (it had a queue at launch and its heavy now, but they raised the server max population caps a week after launch) http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20120201Fastest growing subscription based mmo ever. I call complete and total bullshit on only 300k people left. 95% of the servers are standard or under and my server saw about 30% less people in the fleet during peak times after the 20th of January. Let's all wait 6 months and see what the real ##s are snip Well if you read the swtor forums at all, you can see that many many people are asking for server merges because their servers are dead lol. I read them everyday and many people complain that there are only 3 people in Ilum during peak hours etc. Yea the people on the 6 light servers on NA? I read those every day too and ive asked them what servers they play on, more times than not its one of those light servers. Also same deal, the amount of people that actually post on the forums is a very small percentage of people that play the game. Kinda feels like your grasping at straws here. It seems like your upset by the press release stating the success of the game.... The ongoing constant drop can't really be called a success ![[image loading]](http://www.mmo-junkies.net/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/us-yearly-big.png) Yeah because that's an accurate population tracker. It's quite accurate actually yes. Feel free to read up on how it gathers and sums the statistics up. http://www.mmo-junkies.net/statistics
Still I think you try to mislead people by just posting the picture, without explaining that the y-axis values dont represent the playerbase (aka 100k, 200k, 300k) but that it's just an indication what level the server indicator is at. Also considering we dont have a single clue what "standard" actuall means.
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On February 02 2012 22:15 kukarachaa wrote: EA released their earnings yesterday for the shareholders and SEC as well as other reports that detail how many copies of each game they sold in each quarter etc, there were numbers of SWTOR copies sold something like 2 mill and active subscribers remaining 1.6-.17 mill etc ( you can easily find it online if u search for it ), while things could be better gameplay wise, it is not the end of the world like some people in this thread suggest.
The 1.7 mil subscribers number was from december 31st which was still in the free month area. Therefor the number is pretty meaningless. Free month ended 20th jan for first day players. Next update on numbers should show a more realist picture of swtors abilty to retain numbers.
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On February 03 2012 07:31 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 22:15 kukarachaa wrote: EA released their earnings yesterday for the shareholders and SEC as well as other reports that detail how many copies of each game they sold in each quarter etc, there were numbers of SWTOR copies sold something like 2 mill and active subscribers remaining 1.6-.17 mill etc ( you can easily find it online if u search for it ), while things could be better gameplay wise, it is not the end of the world like some people in this thread suggest. The 1.7 mil subscribers number was from december 31st which was still in the free month area. Therefor the number is pretty meaningless. Free month ended 20th jan for first day players. Next update on numbers should show a more realist picture of swtors abilty to retain numbers. That was for their earnings report that ended on december 31st. Not the subscriber base. It wouldnt make sense anyways their wouldnt be 300k people that bought the game but hadnt subscribed. I read the earnings report and at no point did it state the date of the subscriber base one way or the other but considering the rest of their statistics where as of a few days ago (hours played andd such) and the 2 million in sales was as of only a few days ago i would assume the subscriber base was from a few days ago as well. Also they made a press release on the 26th saying they had 1 million sales so it wouldnt reallly make much sense to have the next one dated 5 days later and i doubt they sold 1 million copies within those 5 days.
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