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Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
December 27 2011 08:37 GMT
#3121
Really like the game except the ability delay and the lack of auto attack that doesn't trigger global cooldown. Don't know how it is for other classes but as a jedi knight in order to use my abilities I have to generate focus, and to generate it I have to mostly use my strike ability which is basically an autoattack that triggers a global cooldown
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
December 27 2011 08:38 GMT
#3122
On December 27 2011 13:45 Laids wrote:
I'm kinda enjoying levelling my Jedi Sentinel, but the lack of LFG tool is really hurting my interest. One of the things I loved about WoW's LFG tool was that whenever I felt bored of the grind I could just join a random dungeon and break the monotony of questing. I can't really do that with SWTOR and it's pretty frustrating. It's even more frustrating to see Bioware's current stance of " YOU WILL USE THE LFG CHANNEL AND LIKE IT AND BE BFF'S 4 EVER ". It's such a silly stance and will push people away from the game, like myself.


That's a feature WoW didn't have for years and years, they added it late WotLK. Maybe Bioware will eventually add it, maybe they won't, but I didn't like the feature in WoW to be honest with you. It made dungeons lame, trivial, and made the designers lean towards making them easy because random automated group collection tends to have worse group cohesion.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10856 Posts
December 27 2011 08:52 GMT
#3123
The LFG tool was the worst thing ever invented.

Why?
It made dungeons lame, trivial, and made the designers lean towards making them easy because random automated group collection tends to have worse group cohesion
kaige
Profile Joined January 2011
United States10 Posts
December 27 2011 09:05 GMT
#3124
On December 27 2011 17:37 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Really like the game except the ability delay and the lack of auto attack that doesn't trigger global cooldown. Don't know how it is for other classes but as a jedi knight in order to use my abilities I have to generate focus, and to generate it I have to mostly use my strike ability which is basically an autoattack that triggers a global cooldown



It's the same for all classes; you have to mix in your regular attack or you end up depleting your resources(or generate too much heat).
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 27 2011 09:05 GMT
#3125
LFG was probably the worst thing ever invented, along with shared BG's. totally ruined the entire aspect of playing on a certain server, i remember back in vanilla it would be fun to gather up people to run dungeons, and we would know who wasn't an idiot lol.

shared BGs though...man ruined it even more. i remember we would have rivalry's against various guilds on the horde side, made it a lot more fun.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 27 2011 10:05 GMT
#3126
yeah, i enjoy not having a dungeon finder.

But i could really use a global lfg channel, it wont be spammed as much as people think, it worked well in WoW and EQ2 before the dungeon finders.



Only grouping with people on your server is awesome, you will see. Even if you dont speak or socialize, you will eventually start knowing people.
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
December 27 2011 10:13 GMT
#3127
LFG was SO bad for WoW. It helped kill server community. The lack of server community itself has killed WoW.
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
December 27 2011 10:31 GMT
#3128
Oh bloody hell, they got the HoN-cyndrome. NA and EU maintenance on the same time, and as they are NA developers, it will always be on good europe time. Well well, then I have 5 hours to clean my room >.>
Toast and coffe
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10856 Posts
December 27 2011 10:39 GMT
#3129
Ahm.. Right now is a pretty good time for maintenance?

I don't konw but people actually have to make a living during daytime? Well, it's christmas holydays atm so it sucks but in general?
SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
December 27 2011 10:42 GMT
#3130
On December 27 2011 19:39 Velr wrote:
Ahm.. Right now is a pretty good time for maintenance?

I don't konw but people actually have to make a living during daytime? Well, it's christmas holydays atm so it sucks but in general?


Kidding? There is a reason it's from 4am to 10 am in their time. I agree that 6pm to midnight would be much worse, but it's still shit atm.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 27 2011 10:49 GMT
#3131
anyone in eu or na complaining about maintainance timing doesn't realise that its like, 8pm-2am for us aussies
Writer
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
December 27 2011 10:52 GMT
#3132
Or school for that matter. I didn't even know they had done any maintenance.

I only played vanilla WoW so I can't speak to how cross-server things worked but the problem with being server limited is that playing on a low pop server really really sucks. Or playing BG's when alliance doesn't have a single halfway decent premade so they would all leave or just afk while we took the flag, really boring. Cross server BG's would have helped that.

That said I think they should just focus on making sure all servers are well populated and have closed servers but with server transfers (limited by pay wall). Being able to have a real server-wide community is really nice as people have said.
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
December 27 2011 10:53 GMT
#3133
On December 27 2011 17:19 venage wrote:
Just raided for the first time last night. It feels like a beta test, we noticed major bugs on every boss except the gauntlet type event in eternity vault. Some of the bugs we're just like the type you see in WoW from time to time, like evade bugs and so on. We went in as a pug from 3 or 4 different guilds. We managed to get to the last boss of Eternity Vault after many bugged tries on the boss before it.

If we look away from the bugs I'm actually impressed with this entry level raid. The trash was boring and uninteresting (hey its trash so whatever right?) but the bosses had some interesting mechanics and you could tell that this wasn't meant to be challenging to a coordinated group on normal mode. The last boss was actually breath taking, it was on the same level as you'd expect a mid-tier end raid boss from wow would be in pure awesomeness and we didn't manage to beat the last phase since it was really tight and no pug will probably one shot it at current gear level.


Did EV8 today and only had serious bugs on the 1st boss with power cells occasionally not spawning. 2nd boss killed our raid at range after our 1st wipe but otherwise was smooth. 3rd/4th bosses had loot bugs (only 1st person to loot got commendations) and 5th boss had no bugs that we found.

Maybe we just didn't trigger them /shrug. Either way the trash was not bad at all, maybe 10-12 pulls in the entire thing and the fights were much more interesting than I expected.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 10:56:07
December 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#3134
Wow!! Star Wars really hates EU yeah? t.t ffs

Patching from 10am-4pm GMT...wow how harsh for the EU players "/

NOTE: This my last day off this week before i go back to work and 5hours of it im going to be staring at a clock t.t
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10856 Posts
December 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#3135
On December 27 2011 19:52 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Or school for that matter. I didn't even know they had done any maintenance.

I only played vanilla WoW so I can't speak to how cross-server things worked but the problem with being server limited is that playing on a low pop server really really sucks. Or playing BG's when alliance doesn't have a single halfway decent premade so they would all leave or just afk while we took the flag, really boring. Cross server BG's would have helped that.

That said I think they should just focus on making sure all servers are well populated and have closed servers but with server transfers (limited by pay wall). Being able to have a real server-wide community is really nice as people have said.


Yes, but the solution to this is to merge the low pop servers.. Not to turn Servers into something nearly meaningless...
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
December 27 2011 11:10 GMT
#3136
On December 27 2011 19:54 Pandemona wrote:
Wow!! Star Wars really hates EU yeah? t.t ffs

Patching from 10am-4pm GMT...wow how harsh for the EU players "/

NOTE: This my last day off this week before i go back to work and 5hours of it im going to be staring at a clock t.t

Unfortunate. But IIRC they've stated that they plan to shuffle the maintenance hours each week between bad times for EU and bad times for US. So one week it'll fuck over US players, next week it'll fuck over EU players. Gives a shared amount of fuckover to everyone! :D
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vivaldi290
Profile Joined March 2011
Chad19 Posts
December 27 2011 11:17 GMT
#3137
Since servers are down thought I'd recap my SWTOR exploits for the day.

Started off on Tatooine, went to a quest hub and got a 3 minute long cinematic for a "Kill 10 bad guys" quest. I was really amazed at how long they managed to pull that out, they had about five dialogue exchanges.

Tried to do PvP but it was bugged the entire day.

Decided to do the late 20s flashpoint (Cademimu), both bosses bugged out. Final boss has a mechanic where you have to tilt your camera straight up to avoid flame jets coming from the ceiling, it's like a boss fight with the camera. Both of the flashpoints I've done so far have been extremely underwhelming and basic, both have that dead, static feel that the game world has too.

After that I went to Alderaan and continued the main story for my Jedi Knight, which is pretty much the only redeeming factor in the game. It seems like both PvE and PvP were an afterthought when compared to the story, which is totally bizarre for an MMO.
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
December 27 2011 11:22 GMT
#3138
On December 27 2011 17:37 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Really like the game except the ability delay and the lack of auto attack that doesn't trigger global cooldown. Don't know how it is for other classes but as a jedi knight in order to use my abilities I have to generate focus, and to generate it I have to mostly use my strike ability which is basically an autoattack that triggers a global cooldown


try using a class with a non burst spec. for instance im using carnage on my marauder which is frontloaded and i know it so im not too bothered when i need to use normal attack, however if you hated that then you could respec into annihilation which is dot based at low rage cost, ergo much fewer normal attacks. Also ranged casters almost never use normal because they have 500 force which is more than enough and their melee sucks anyway.
ambra
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy80 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 11:23:45
December 27 2011 11:23 GMT
#3139
I heard this game has no bugs or issues at all, and the pvp is well designed and developed.
A lot of issues that the beta had were also fixed, I heard.

Is everyone satisfied with this game?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 27 2011 11:28 GMT
#3140
On December 27 2011 20:23 ambra wrote:
I heard this game has no bugs or issues at all, and the pvp is well designed and developed.
A lot of issues that the beta had were also fixed, I heard.

Is everyone satisfied with this game?


Lots of bugs still for me ^_^ randomly getting stuck in the game seems to be my biggest. Cant randomly move for like 5minutes trying to move again because im stuck.

Spawning in mid air when i log in is another aswell, thats rather annoying.

PvP is fun for me, think its personal taste though, the PvP game modes are different but fun for me!

Good game think it could of done with another week/ 2 weeks in BETA though.
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