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crabapple
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States397 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-15 20:39:10
August 15 2008 20:37 GMT
#121
the korean guy won a gold medal in asian swimming history. see if you can decipher the bias.

they surprise drug tested him during practice a few times, and drug tested him 3 more times at the olympics and even right after he won.

(what? this asian guy, it's not possible, how is he winning if he didn't drug himself?)
might be remniscent of
(hitler: [how did that black jesse owens beat our superior aryan race?])

5 times for one player, singling him out. it tells more about the people who ordered them as well as the expectations of their cultures than it does about the athlete.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 15 2008 20:43 GMT
#122
everyone is drug tested after they win, I thought.
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
August 15 2008 20:45 GMT
#123
I'm pretty sure almost every athlete is getting drug tested at least once a day or so.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 15 2008 21:55 GMT
#124
Phelps even went through advanced US anti-doping process lol
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8887 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-15 22:45:30
August 15 2008 22:44 GMT
#125
On August 16 2008 05:28 theonemephisto wrote:
Michael Phelps really does have one of the hardest training schedules of any professional swimmer though.


Exactly. This is not our opinion we're throwing out there. This is documented fact put forth by trainers, coaches, and people less ignorant than us.

For the record, I too am Canadian, and as a sports fan I love watching what Phelps is doing.

And everyone is aware that he takes part in that 'project believe' thing or whatever it's called, right, like OneOther mentioned? He volunteers for a much more strict testing regimen than other athletes go through. I can understand skepticism and cynicism, but if anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's Michael Phelps. Innocent until proven guilty, right?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
August 15 2008 23:11 GMT
#126
On August 16 2008 01:25 Krowser wrote:
Hah, I love this:

[image loading]


God Bless America.
i always did my own count for the medals off points. 3 points for gold 2 for silver and one for bronze. I always thought thats the best way to go about it.

So as of now the score would be

China-95
USA-84
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
August 15 2008 23:15 GMT
#127
On August 16 2008 08:11 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2008 01:25 Krowser wrote:
Hah, I love this:

[image loading]


God Bless America.
i always did my own count for the medals off points. 3 points for gold 2 for silver and one for bronze. I always thought thats the best way to go about it.

So as of now the score would be

China-95
USA-84

China's run out of individual events that they excel in (gymnastics as an example) now the usa should pick up more golds and move into the lead :o
Skittled
Profile Joined July 2007
United States160 Posts
August 15 2008 23:18 GMT
#128
michael phelps cheats in that he is a dolphin, and the rules clearly states no dolphins allowed.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
August 15 2008 23:30 GMT
#129
On August 16 2008 08:15 DeadVessel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2008 08:11 InToTheWannaB wrote:
On August 16 2008 01:25 Krowser wrote:
Hah, I love this:

[image loading]


God Bless America.
i always did my own count for the medals off points. 3 points for gold 2 for silver and one for bronze. I always thought thats the best way to go about it.

So as of now the score would be

China-95
USA-84

China's run out of individual events that they excel in (gymnastics as an example) now the usa should pick up more golds and move into the lead :o

yeah they are not really known as a track and field powerhouse lol. Still they are good at alot of those wired littil sports.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 15 2008 23:57 GMT
#130
On August 16 2008 05:05 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
Roy Jones Jr. didn`t fight 2 times a day over 9 day span. Nor did Michael Schumacher race 2 times a day, 9 days in a row.



This Schumacher comparison is just so bad, I get what you saying but please don't use him. I am sure he can race 2 times a day and 9 days in a row and each time being 2 hours as well instead of a couple of minutes. It is more to do with the money than his physical capability, I mean who the fuck will pay for all these race?
sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
August 16 2008 00:04 GMT
#131
phelps just wins at swimming. hes not the best olympian, only the best swimmer.
if everythings coming your way, youre in the wrong lane. sAviOr 4evar!
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
August 16 2008 00:09 GMT
#132
12000 calories a day

jesus fucking christ
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14908 Posts
August 16 2008 00:09 GMT
#133
On August 16 2008 09:04 sqwert wrote:
phelps just wins at swimming. hes not the best olympian, only the best swimmer.


ORLY
Mark Spitz was ONLY good at swimming
nadia comaneci was ONLY good at gymnastics
carl lewis was ONLY good at track and field
michael jordan was ONLY good at basketball
maurice green was ONLY good at running
gondolin
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
France332 Posts
August 16 2008 00:44 GMT
#134

Show nested quote +

So, he opted in to a much much much stricter anti doping program that will keep his blood on file and check it with all the tests that are developed even in the future. Why would anyone who is doping do that? He's a clean athlete with a tech edge if anything, but that doesn't stop the fact that he is just a monster swiming. And wtf man? Lance Armstrong has never nor will ever test positive for any drugs. way to slander innocent athletes douchebag.

the only thing Armstrong was accused of (and may have been guilty of) was blood doping, and it turned out like literally almost every single cyclist was blood doping anyway


I am surprised a lot of people here are thinking Lance Armstrong was not doping. Everyone was (and i am pretty sure still is) doped in the Tour de France. The Tier1 top bikers (Ulrich, ...) were convinced of doping. And Armstrong was faster than them for seven years! Seriously, how could a clean man beat some doped men? When blood doping detection was used, he did not get caught, but when he retired they were some test done on an echantillon from his blood the year *before* blood doping could be detected, and it was positive. This is not official because it was the B sample, and there is no way to do a counter-expertise (and when you see how hard Landis makes it for the Tour de France organisation to strip him from his title, you understant they wouldn't want to convince a retired myth of doping).

*BUT* before the Top Tier1 dopers were caught, the competition was tremondous, and there is no reason to think Armstrong was taking some better products than the others. Everyone was doing it, so it doesn't impact the results, and the fact he won 7 time by behing so ahead each time is a tremendous accomplishment.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
August 16 2008 00:55 GMT
#135
On August 16 2008 08:15 DeadVessel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2008 08:11 InToTheWannaB wrote:
On August 16 2008 01:25 Krowser wrote:
Hah, I love this:

[image loading]


God Bless America.
i always did my own count for the medals off points. 3 points for gold 2 for silver and one for bronze. I always thought thats the best way to go about it.

So as of now the score would be

China-95
USA-84

China's run out of individual events that they excel in (gymnastics as an example) now the usa should pick up more golds and move into the lead :o


Hmm, I'm not sure. Looking at the 2004 final count as a example, the US had 36 total in gold (+10 of where China is right now).
wtf was that signature
Phantom
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada2151 Posts
August 16 2008 00:56 GMT
#136
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080815.wrspeedo15/BNStory/beijing2008/

+ Show Spoiler +


Beijing's real swimming star
Over the past several decades, one Olympian's pursuit of speed has gone unmatched

MATT HARTLEY

From Friday's Globe and Mail

August 15, 2008 at 3:17 AM EDT

Michael Phelps and his quest for an unprecedented eight gold medals is the talk of the Olympics, but the superstar making the biggest splash at the Water Cube in Beijing had nabbed 42 of the 48 swimming medals through Wednesday, including 15 of the 16 golds up for grabs.

Commentators can't stop talking about its effectiveness. Its detractors accuse it of cheating. One has even alleged its presence at the Games amounts to a textbook case of “technological doping.”

The real swimming star of the Beijing Olympics isn't a swimmer at all, but a swimsuit: the Speedo Fastskin LZR Racer.

The dominance of Speedo's latest revolutionary swimsuit at the Beijing Games is no aberration.

Every few years, the British brand redesigns its competitive swimsuits, and within months, world record times begin to tumble.

Since the LZR was unveiled in February, more than 60 world records have been shattered by swimmers clad in its second-skin grip.

Although the athletes using the LZR continue to sing its praises, the creation Speedo calls “the world's fastest swimsuit” was dogged by controversy from the moment it left the starting block.

Swimsuit manufacturer TYR Sport Inc. launched an antitrust lawsuit in May against Warnaco Group Inc. – the clothing maker that owns the Speedo licence in North America – over Speedo's close connection with the U.S. national swim team. The head coach, Mark Schubert, is reported to have encouraged his swimmers to switch to the LZR or risk watching the Beijing Games at home on TV.

In June, Nike agreed to let the four athletes it had signed to sponsorship deals use the Speedo suits in Beijing after the swimmers experimented with the LZR at the U.S. national championships.

It's no surprise that members of Canada's swim team also wear the LZR suit, with the team hoping to avoid being shut out from podium appearances for a second straight Olympics.

In amateur athletics, where a hundredth of a second can mean the difference between securing the lucrative sponsorship deals that come with a gold medal and the obscurity of being an also-ran, it's no surprise that the world's top swimmers are looking at Mr. Phelps's suit and deciding they want one of their own, said Loren Chiu, an associate professor of biomechanics at the University of Alberta.

“The marketing people for these companies are smart and they go after the top athletes, the gold medalists,” he said. “So someone who is finishing lower in the rankings, if they see the gold medalist wearing this new suit, they are going to want to try it out as well.”

To design the LZR, Speedo enlisted the help of NASA scientists to sculpt the company's Pulse material into a shark-like second skin that reduces the drag on a human body in the water by as much as 10 per cent. Speedo created 3-D scans of more than 400 of the world's top swimmers in an effort to determine the shape of their bodies and how best to improve their aquatic movements.

The LZR – which is expected to be made available to the general public in the fall with a price tag of about $550 (U.S.) – follows Speedo's Fastskin full-body swimsuit designs, which began appearing on pool decks in 2000. To design this new breed of swimsuits, Speedo “went underwater,” Mr. Chiu said.

“They looked at fish and sharks and tried to recreate a surface that is similar to what they would have on their skin,” he said. “It's similar to the non-stick frying pans you use to cook your eggs. If you have a smooth surface, then instead of water sticking to the suit, which would cause friction, it slides along it. With less friction, the athlete then is able to move faster.”

Speedo says the corset-like design of the suit helps streamline a swimmer's body while improving oxygen intake by as much as 5 per cent. It's also ultrasonically welded together, instead of using stitches, to make it completely seamless, further reducing drag. The LZR suits are so snug it can take an athlete 20 to 30 minutes just to wriggle into one. It's so technically advanced, it's on display in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York as part of its Superheroes: Fashion and Fantasy exhibit.

Speedo swimsuits were first developed by Alexander MacRae, a Scotsman who emigrated to Australia in 1910. The Speedo brand was born in 1928 after a staff member coined the slogan “Speed on in your Speedos” to describe the company's new Racerback swimsuit line.

The London, England-based Pentland Group took ownership of Speedo in the 1990s.

In 1970, Speedo created the first suits made from nylon/elastane, which remains the most common material used in swimwear. Two years later, Mark Spitz wore a Speedo suit while he captured seven Olympic gold medals.

Speedo has promised Mr. Phelps a $1-million bonus if he is able to match Mr. Spitz's record. It will be money well spent for Speedo, since Mr. Phelps is becoming known as the Tiger Woods of swimming and will soon be able to command Tiger-like endorsement dollars, said Alan Middleton, a marketing professor with the Schulich School of Business at York University.

“He will literally have the sponsors queuing up,” he said.
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theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
August 16 2008 02:20 GMT
#137
HOLY FUCK! Michael Phelps just tied Spitz by 1/100th of a second! HOLY SHIT!
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
August 16 2008 02:22 GMT
#138
Omg Phelps lucked out against Cavic
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
August 16 2008 02:27 GMT
#139
I think it's safe to say Michael Phelps is not overrated.
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Poeta *
Profile Joined March 2004
Peru278 Posts
August 16 2008 02:52 GMT
#140
Michael Phelps 7 GOLD!!!
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