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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
July 09 2008 13:11 GMT
#21
Snes emulator + chrono trigger, zelda 3, secret of evermore. Chrono trigger has the best video game music of all time and it is the best rpg I've ever played. Zelda 3 is without doubt the best zelda ever. And secret of evermore is just a really cool time travel related rpg.

That should keep you busy for awhile. Besides that I recommend monkey island 3 & 4, hilarious adventure games.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-09 13:39:22
July 09 2008 13:31 GMT
#22
On July 09 2008 20:54 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Duller than Diablo is impossible. :p
I liked DS 2. Didn't play DS 1, but 2 is/was certainly a fun game for playing through it once.
Only redeeming point for Diablo 2 is that it's so simple that you can play it with casual gamer friends at any time. But this is about single player, so... DS 2 > D2.

Diablo 1 solo >>>> DS 1. The ambience is like way better ( and you cant call me a nostalgic because i played diablo 1 very late like in 2002 ).
Although Diablo 2 is quite boring sometimes i think it is still better. It has better drop / item system, better design ( but still quite bad, lol @ Act 2, 3 and 5 ), the gameplay is faster (i hate slow hack and slash ).
Dunno about DS 2 but if it is like DS 1 it is really bad imo even in solo.


On July 09 2008 20:54 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Torment is never hard... it's really all about the story, characters and immersion. Combat is like a fun addition to the game, not really an obstacle and certainly not what you're busy with most of the time.
You should finish the underground ASAP, you'll find something... interesting in the Drowned Nations Catacombs.
When I found that, I was really hooked and excited about finding out more.
If you didn't meet Many-as-One or the Silent King yet, that's also fun...


Dont worry i didnt say that Torment is bad, moreover i think i'm a bit faulty because my English is terrible so i cant enjoy dialogs like you or English native speakers did, and i'm a bit bewildered by the weird world and characters ( which is a matter of taste ).

But, my problem about Torment gameplay is that i did a "smart" character to get better dialogs. So i have a charracter with 19 Int, however he is kinda weak ( 9 Str, 12 Const ), but even with a "weak" character ( and he is still a warrior... ) fights are easy so it is a bit boring, because i thought that i would have to use tricks or to avoid fights to go further in the game but no, i can win all the fights ( i didnt even use the charms i have collected ... ). Nevertheless i use the dialogs to solve problems because i can get more Xp ( but what the point of getting more Xp if the game is easy ? )
When you play BG if you chose to play a warrior with 9 at Str, you will get badly punished by the first though monster.

Another example of why this game is too easy. When i was at the undead city, the game bugged and the skeleton priest didnt want to let me go out. So i tried to kill him and all his minions and i succeded at the first try :/.

i know as you said that Torment isnt about fights, but i like challenge, and i'm a bit disappointed because i feel it is all about completing dialog trees .

It looks almost like a book ( it is both a critic and a compliment for a video game ) but it lacks of balance between fights / difficulty / dialogs in my opinion, nevertheless i would rate it higher than 15/20 because of the story, characters and world.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
July 09 2008 15:36 GMT
#23
Wow +1 for Freelancer; it is easily one of my favourite games in existance; I wish wish wish wish WISH a sequel was made at current PC specs, the graphics would be amazing. Trent was such a pimp too.

Some people said KOTOR for a starwars game, but Jedi Knight II: Outcast is easily the best Starwars game ever made; if you like the sweet idea of FPS/3rdPS/3rdPLightsaberownage hybrid.
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-09 17:00:36
July 09 2008 16:54 GMT
#24
On July 09 2008 22:31 Boblion wrote:
Another example of why this game is too easy. When i was at the undead city, the game bugged and the skeleton priest didnt want to let me go out. So i tried to kill him and all his minions and i succeded at the first try :/.


I haven't tried that. Many fights can be avoided, this one is no exception.
Did you manage to get into the throne room? I think that's required to be able to leave without a fight... and it's fun anyway.

Set the difficulty slider to maximum if it really bothers you that it's too easy... then the monsters will do double damage which can be nasty sometimes. Not often though. :p
You can also try to kill Many-as-One for a challenge. Just a stupid rat, what are you waiting for? :D

i know as you said that Torment isnt about fights, but i like challenge, and i'm a bit disappointed because i feel it is all about completing dialog trees .


Yes, well... it's intentional that many things are different from traditional computer RPGs. Dialog in PS:T is much more critical and game-deciding than combat.
In other RPGs, you save before some combats, but in PS:T, you should save before some dialogs instead.
See the first answer in this interview here for more examples: http://www.rpgwatch.com/show/article?articleid=56&ref=0&id=208 (warning: major spoilers if you read more than just the first answer! If you also don't want slight spoilers, don't click on it at all).

It looks almost like a book ( it is both a critic and a compliment for a video game ) but it lacks of balance between fights / difficulty / dialogs in my opinion, nevertheless i would rate it higher than 15/20 because of the story, characters and world.


Yeah, it's like an interactive book, and this greatly enhances the story and character interactions.
My advice is to play PS:T when you're not in a hurry. Gotta immerse yourself in it.
Also, talk to your party members from time to time... it's fun and sometimes rewarding.
Cogito
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States453 Posts
July 09 2008 17:50 GMT
#25
Chrono Trigger and X-Com were already mentioned.

Based on your favorite games you will really enjoy Master of Magic and Star Control 2. They are DOS based games but their quality is so good, they will stand the test of time.

I am playing Grandia 2 right now and its pretty fun, but its no CT.
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
July 09 2008 19:58 GMT
#26
On July 09 2008 13:17 Nitrogen23 wrote:
LOL IN VIDEO WHEN SHE SAYS "WHAT DOES A GIRL HAVE TO DO AROUND HERE TO GET SOME KHA'AK?"

HAHAHAHHAHAH LOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLO OMG AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.

I like how she keeps on repeating it hahahahahahahahaha.

on Topic: Deus Ex: Invisible War is one of the most fun RPGs ever its actually an RPG/FPS hybrid, and that just makes it all the more cooler. Like it's predecessor there's a lot of freedom you have and many ways for you to play the game.

I thought the Splinter Cell games were pretty fun too, but I think I liked the co-op versions better.
dO_ov
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States190 Posts
July 09 2008 20:05 GMT
#27
did they purposely name the aliens kha'ak? sooo funny at one point she says the kha'aks are exploding. hahahahaha oh man.


anyway, back to the topic, i really liked Metal Gear Solids. the story line is just really great, and well thought out, although i do think the gameplay is not as tense as some of the other games.

i also vote splinter cell. it was crazy fun when it first came out.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 09 2008 20:09 GMT
#28
Alpha Centauri: THE best TBS (turn based strategy). Amazing technolgy notes/background strory, mechanics and ui far ahead of its time. Miles, miles better than civ2/3/4

Colonization: 1994 TBS. very, very fun. Generally fairly short games.

Westnoth: HERE. You can see my post about it HERE.

various snes games and psx games (among the Front Mission, Metal Marines, Super Mario, Final Fantasy, Tales of Phantasia, MGS)
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 09 2008 20:23 GMT
#29
On July 10 2008 02:50 Cogito wrote:
Chrono Trigger and X-Com were already mentioned.

Based on your favorite games you will really enjoy Master of Magic and Star Control 2. They are DOS based games but their quality is so good, they will stand the test of time.

I am playing Grandia 2 right now and its pretty fun, but its no CT.

Omg Strontrol 2 = best voices of any game ever.

Sooooo funny too!

DL: http://sc2.sourceforge.net/
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 09 2008 20:24 GMT
#30
Disciples 2: My choice for THE best TBS ever - amazing fantasy world, kickass gotic atmosphere, the best artwork and models design ever- even better than the blizzard games (its true, I'm not even kidding). Awesome story,great soundtrack... all you can ask for from a single player game. (only the intro clip kinda sucks)
And ofc NWN...
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-09 21:40:48
July 09 2008 21:35 GMT
#31
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=61646
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=37895

maybe that helps you

painkiller is a good shooter if you enjoy trashy gameplay with loooots of monsters etc.

last singleplayer game i played through was Rune i suppose.. really enjoyed it at that time.. the levels were very well designed on the whole (you have quite a voyage.. through the underworld, viking fortifications, meet gods..) and it just felt cool playing an action adventure with ut99 engine. (we also played it a lot via lan)

yeah mass effect is great - already mentioned

i hear different opinions on the witcher.. some say it's really great and a must play.. but some1 in the comments here said he didn't enjoy it. anyway, there will be an enhanced version later this year so if you wanna try out the game i'd wait for this as they improve dialogues, voice acting and some other things.. i'll buy it then too

and i want to underline disciple's pick: Disciples II is indeed a great game with the positive aspects he already named. (if you are in for tbs)

so my cleared recommendations (for antique pc ) -> Rune, Disciples II



Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-09 21:44:54
July 09 2008 21:44 GMT
#32
On July 09 2008 19:43 XCetron wrote:
I was actually considering getting X3: The Reunion but I haven't found much info on it. Someone convince me quick, gogo


KHA'AK

'nuff said.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-09 22:13:00
July 09 2008 22:12 GMT
#33
On July 10 2008 06:35 Ghardo wrote:
last singleplayer game i played through was Rune i suppose.. really enjoyed it at that time.. the levels were very well designed on the whole (you have quite a voyage.. through the underworld, viking fortifications, meet gods..) and it just felt cool playing an action adventure with ut99 engine. (we also played it a lot via lan)


Rune is really good, i agree. Multi is funny but becomes boring quite fast in my opinion.
If you like the multi here is a cool vid:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8cvGc2yxHQ


ut99 engine produced so many good games
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
LinkinPork
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada223 Posts
July 09 2008 22:22 GMT
#34
Advent Rising has some of the best video game music ever, but the game was just so broken.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 09 2008 22:35 GMT
#35
oh

max payne (the original) was pretty damn fun too
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
FunFluffyBunny
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Sweden1696 Posts
July 09 2008 22:58 GMT
#36
Planescape Torment is so good. Second time I played it I used a walkthrough to make sure I didn't miss any good dialogues and there were sooooooooooooooo many great ones I missed the first time.
+ Show Spoiler +
I love the fact that you don't even have to fight the final boss, you can just talk your way out of it if you have enough Wis+Int
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 09 2008 23:32 GMT
#37
Dungeon Siege was nice but there was no story, DS2 is great but it was very easy. Also try the Silent Hill series, to be exact SH2 - it gave me the creeps
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 09 2008 23:49 GMT
#38
Silent Hill 2 had the sickest soundtrack.

Morrowind was also quite a good game. You could do all sorts of shit.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 10 2008 00:00 GMT
#39
On July 10 2008 08:49 Last Romantic wrote:
Silent Hill 2 had the sickest soundtrack.

.

Indeed and btw SH5 will be out soon so now is the perfect time to go thru SH 1 and 2 again.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
July 10 2008 00:14 GMT
#40
Thanks for the input everyone.

When I get around to it, I will definitely play FEAR and Max payne. I havn't played any real horror games so I duno what its like. I kind of doubt a game could scare me though cus im immune to horror or something lol.

Deus Ex, as many people mentioned is amazing. I did read read many bad reviews for sequel though, which detered me from playing it.

I also really enjoyed jagged allience 2 (although I lost interest eventually lol), so I will give UFO a try.

Baldurs Gate. Now that is a series that everyone hails in the RPg department. I have been meaning to play it, but never really got around to it.

Someone mentioned Jedi Outcast. If that is the same series as Jedi Academy, then yes that game is incredible. I played Jedi Academy online for a bit, and it was so addictive. Once you get good at using the saber its like an artform. My fav move was, walking towards the opponent with your saber sheathed, then bust out the 1 hit kill backstab move. It rarely works, but once in a while u can get the kill.

Once, my internet went down for an extended amount of time, and I resorted to playing D2 single player. It was so much fun until I went to Nightmare and my resistence got fucked over lol. I ended up doing nightmare meph runs.... on fuckin single player and realized it was time to quit.

I played morrowind for a bit, but I went off track with the flying spell and ended up in some wierd castle with guards everywhere. I also stole all these crazy shit from the mage guild. I duno that game was maybe too open ended for me.


The game I really want to recommend to everyone is again Space rangers 2. There is so many mini games in it that it doesnt get dull. Not to mension the combat system is one of the best ive seen. You can toggle it from turn based to real time. They both have their uses in different situations. Here is a short clip of the different aspects of the game.
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