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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 30 2009 08:33 GMT
#3801
I am looking for a fighting game guys.
It's fantasy themed, and I think it has characters like an orc warrior and a grim reaper on a skeleton horse (??).
Could you help me?
And all is illuminated.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
May 30 2009 11:10 GMT
#3802
On May 30 2009 16:12 Bill307 wrote:
One game has "you can air block only once" leading to unblockables and team-rapes. It has Sentinel's cr.HP which has attack frames that don't cause your character to block, a concept I've never even heard of before. It has double-snap assist infinites. It has Magburrito. It has Iron "one hit and your team is dead" Man. It has Capitalist Communist and his invincible, top-to-bottom, godlike assist. And so on.

The other game has combos that change depending on the aspect ratio. It has combos and infinites off of bursts. It has Kar-fucking-ass. And so on.

I dunno, I think TvC is pretty broke, but MvC2 is on a whole 'nother level.

You can actually block as long as you want if you superjump. Given that you can "only block once per jump" in pretty much every fighting game up till that point in time (and a lot of modern games have even more brutal guardbreaks due to not being able to airblock ground moves AT ALL), I don't see how that's a big deal.
Sentinel c.HP unblockable isn't really that hard to understand, and it isn't really anything to do with "attack frames not causing you to block" so much as the lack of proximity blocking in MvC2 and like every modern fighting game.
MvC2 Magneto isn't quite as broke as "no dizzying out of my infinite" TvC characters, or "you do get dizzy and then I get to keep comboing you" in previous Vs. games.
IM 300% doesn't really happen often 'cuz the third character will dizzy out if you were literally doing a 1-touch kill.
CapCom assist isn't fully invincible till active IIRC, it gets cleanly beat out by some things like Doom assist.

Not saying MvC2 isn't broke, but it's more the case that Marvel wears its brokeness on its sleeve while other games pretend they aren't as broke as they actually are.
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 12:59:21
May 30 2009 12:55 GMT
#3803
On May 30 2009 20:10 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Sentinel c.HP unblockable isn't really that hard to understand, and it isn't really anything to do with "attack frames not causing you to block" so much as the lack of proximity blocking in MvC2 and like every modern fighting game.

By proximity blocking you mean that effect where an opponent does moves across the screen and your guy blocks or are you referring to something else? (like ST or SF4's focus attacks (I think focus attacks seem like the only move that cause this)).

Just curious, as I'm not very familiar with marvel's engine other than really basic stuff. Also Dr. Doom dashing forward and sweeping is unblockable apparently?

On May 30 2009 17:33 freelander wrote:
I am looking for a fighting game guys.
It's fantasy themed, and I think it has characters like an orc warrior and a grim reaper on a skeleton horse (??).
Could you help me?

I'll probably have an answer for you by monday I'm going to a tournament today so i'm getting ready and checked this thread briefly but it might be either "the killing blade" (arcade) or "weaponlord" snes/genesis but this is off the top of my head and I'll have to sort through my collection of bad fighting games

i'm gonna lose to balrog in SF4, and a shoto in ST, going ahead and calling it.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 30 2009 13:14 GMT
#3804
On May 30 2009 03:29 anotak wrote:
i love the way boxer sounds on ST


me too actually, although SF4 Boxer is pretty hype too
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kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
May 30 2009 13:33 GMT
#3805
MY FIGHT MONEY!

boxer gets hype yo.

prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 30 2009 13:34 GMT
#3806
On May 30 2009 21:55 anotak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 17:33 freelander wrote:
I am looking for a fighting game guys.
It's fantasy themed, and I think it has characters like an orc warrior and a grim reaper on a skeleton horse (??).
Could you help me?

I'll probably have an answer for you by monday I'm going to a tournament today so i'm getting ready and checked this thread briefly but it might be either "the killing blade" (arcade) or "weaponlord" snes/genesis but this is off the top of my head and I'll have to sort through my collection of bad fighting games


Hmm I checked those titles and they are not similar to what I can remember.
Good luck at the tourney.
And all is illuminated.
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany634 Posts
May 30 2009 15:25 GMT
#3807
On May 30 2009 17:33 freelander wrote:
I am looking for a fighting game guys.
It's fantasy themed, and I think it has characters like an orc warrior and a grim reaper on a skeleton horse (??).
Could you help me?


Chaos Breaker. Released in 2004. I think it is not emulated even today.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
May 30 2009 17:15 GMT
#3808
Last I checked. Sentinel unblockable works in such a way that the last frames of the laser hits on both sides of the character making it unblockable.
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 30 2009 18:11 GMT
#3809
On May 31 2009 00:25 ScoutWBF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 17:33 freelander wrote:
I am looking for a fighting game guys.
It's fantasy themed, and I think it has characters like an orc warrior and a grim reaper on a skeleton horse (??).
Could you help me?


Chaos Breaker. Released in 2004. I think it is not emulated even today.


thanks
And all is illuminated.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 30 2009 18:19 GMT
#3810
dont get tvc..... it had like 2 months of hype and of people playing and now i dont really know anyone who plays it anymore
Forever Young
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
May 31 2009 01:15 GMT
#3811
On May 31 2009 03:19 sung_moon wrote:
dont get tvc..... it had like 2 months of hype and of people playing and now i dont really know anyone who plays it anymore


Karas killed TvC for me. It gets dull seeing the same single character over and over again in almost every match. Sort of like Jin in Tekken 4.
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xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
May 31 2009 03:07 GMT
#3812
On May 30 2009 16:15 Aqo[il] wrote:
I wonder, are there are SWR players here?


I play some casually, although I'm not that good and neither is my circle of friends who also play it. (we started like 2 weeks ago)
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 31 2009 03:30 GMT
#3813


kaqn too strong
Forever Young
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 31 2009 03:32 GMT
#3814
On May 31 2009 10:15 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2009 03:19 sung_moon wrote:
dont get tvc..... it had like 2 months of hype and of people playing and now i dont really know anyone who plays it anymore


Karas killed TvC for me. It gets dull seeing the same single character over and over again in almost every match. Sort of like Jin in Tekken 4.


heh karas kinda killed it for every i think. i was even one of the people who wanted to get it when it first came out lol.
T4 i thought was horrible. T5 and T5DR are alright, but then again im not even scrub level in tekken.
Forever Young
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 31 2009 03:36 GMT
#3815
In case you haven't seen it yet, Arcadia July magazine has a mega tier list update (courtesy versuscity) for multiple games. There's a dubious (?) matchup diagram for BlazBlue, two VF5R ver. A lists from different regions, a very differentiated SF3:3S list, a succinct F/UC list, an Akatsuki Blitzkampf list, and matchup listings for GGXXAC Eddy and Testament.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-31 03:41:50
May 31 2009 03:41 GMT
#3816
I think they made that BB matchup diagram by asking a top Kanto player for each character to come up with their character's matchups vs all the others.

That's why e.g. Taokaka vs Arakune and Arakune vs Taokaka don't add up to 10.

If that's the case, then apparently their Taokaka player thinks she sucks.


The 3s tier list had a big change to it, too:

S+ - Chun-Li
S - Yun
A+ - Ken, Dudley
A - Makoto, Yang
A- - Urien, Akuma, Ryu, Oro
B+ - Hugo
B - Elena, Ibuki, Alex
C - Necro, Twelve, Remy, Q
D - Sean
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
May 31 2009 03:43 GMT
#3817
Hugo B+? Has Kuroda been raping everyone silly again? XD

I guess Dudley, we could've seen coming eventually. As well as Chun when she learns how to play against Yun
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
May 31 2009 07:22 GMT
#3818
On May 31 2009 12:07 xmShake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 16:15 Aqo[il] wrote:
I wonder, are there are SWR players here?

-video link-

I play some casually, although I'm not that good and neither is my circle of friends who also play it. (we started like 2 weeks ago)

Come to irc.mizuumi.net #SWR, you can get games with plenty of active players for nearly every hour of the day. I improved tons ever since I started playing online, all my RL friends get owned ez now ~

We just had a Europe SWR Tournament on the 30th, which had epic Aya vs Aya finals, and the entire X brackets are worth checking out (especially Mayn's, some veeeery close games), replay pack is here: Watersea the 2nd
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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
May 31 2009 09:49 GMT
#3819
lol SWR :V

anotak - yeah, that's it. Newer games do away with the "lol they jabbed at fullscreen BETTER BLOCK" that happens in SF2 series and such, but proximity blocking just makes you do that if the attack gets "close enough." Actually I guess I worded it improperly, since I guess MvC2 does have proximity blocking... but a badly coded (probably super early/poorly thought out) version of it, so Sentinel's beam isn't "close enough" to trigger proximity blocking after it fades out... and I guess in MvC2, if proximity blocking doesn't trigger, actual blocking doesn't :V
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
May 31 2009 10:22 GMT
#3820
I posted about Sentinel's unblockable earlier. About Dr.Doom's sweep though, (again relying on my MvC2 knowledge, its my main game although I'm just trying to recall the old mechanics discussion about these) Doom's sweep isn't unblockable per se, but there's a point in the sweep's hitbox that makes it hit on the other side so instead of holding back, you push forward to block. I guess adjusting the distance, you can make it very ambigous.

Of course the easy way out is to just check SRK for details, but I'm lazy ^^
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