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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 02 2010 22:29 GMT
#15181
On March 03 2010 04:27 Tadzio wrote:
My thoughts regarding Runed Axe:

Swiftblade: Core, but get boots (&possibly boot upgrade) after lifetube. RA makes his ult an AOE attack and the extra farm helps him out a lot.

Chronos: I only get it on Chronos if my team is having troubles killing people inside my ult... Which I usually decide after Elder Parasite (and boots). It's not a bad item on him, though.

Bloodhunter: Mock is better, but if you're having difficulty saving for Mock, RA is a serviceable replacement.

The Dark Lady: Core, get it before boots if you can. No question.

Magebane: Situational. I don't like RA on him but if you're in a teamfight where you're wacking on a Pyromancer with others nearby, then you ult, RA can be nice. My first Quadkill came this way. I'd probably get boots before finishing RA.

Scout: Core, get it before boots if you can. I'd go so far to say that Scout is almost useless in a teamfight without RA.

Madman: I don't have enough experience with Madman to come to a firm conclusion, but RA seems to have what he needs.

Armadon: Situational. RA is good on him, but you may want to prioritize tank items, ring of teacher and Mock instead.

Hammerstorm: I like RA on Hammerstorm. I wouldn't finish it before boots.... or bottle.

Keeper of the Forest: If you're going the damage route... Mock is better. But RA can work too.

Electrician: Only if you're Testie.

Jeraziah: It's funny cuz it can work. Your teammates will rage at you, but it can work.

Pandamonium: I don't like RA on him, but it's not a bad item for him. He can rush it and do fine.

All the other heroes shouldn't even consider RA, imo.


You just listed way tooo many heroes that you think RA is good on. RA is pretty shit item really. >_<
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 22:57:15
March 02 2010 22:57 GMT
#15182
I think you didn't read what I wrote. RA is core on three heroes. Situational on five heroes. Replaces Mock (if you're struggling w/farm) on three heroes. And it might be good on Madman (I don't play him enough to say for sure). Electrician was a joke.

semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 02 2010 23:01 GMT
#15183
On March 03 2010 07:57 Tadzio wrote:
I think you didn't read what I wrote. RA is core on three heroes. Situational on five heroes. Replaces Mock (if you're struggling w/farm) on three heroes. And it might be good on Madman (I don't play him enough to say for sure). Electrician was a joke.


mad man is much better off getting as high dmg as possible runed axe is too costly for too little but it is farily easy to get as the items are pretty low cost i men for the 4500ish of that item i could easily gotten shieldbreaker (which by the way is much better on madman)or pretty close to other useful items like sny or mock
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
March 02 2010 23:01 GMT
#15184
On March 03 2010 07:57 Tadzio wrote:
I think you didn't read what I wrote. RA is core on three heroes. Situational on five heroes. Replaces Mock (if you're struggling w/farm) on three heroes. And it might be good on Madman (I don't play him enough to say for sure). Electrician was a joke.


yea but the fact that u put BF on hammer storm ever, wrecked your credibility, even if the rest is pretty sound logic.
py2o3434
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1 Post
March 02 2010 23:03 GMT
#15185
I made a guide site, so im gonna plug it here :D
www.honpros.com
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 02 2010 23:09 GMT
#15186
I'll defer to your opinion on Madman-- I'm sure you've played him more than I have-- but saving for Sword of the High is never as simple as addition and subtraction. If you buy a lifetube and die right afterwards, you've lost some farm time, but you'll respawn with an item that improves your survival. If you're 875g into saving for SotH and you die, you've just lost 300+g toward that goal as well as the farm time and you're no more effective than when you died.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 02 2010 23:10 GMT
#15187
On March 03 2010 08:01 Etherone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2010 07:57 Tadzio wrote:
I think you didn't read what I wrote. RA is core on three heroes. Situational on five heroes. Replaces Mock (if you're struggling w/farm) on three heroes. And it might be good on Madman (I don't play him enough to say for sure). Electrician was a joke.


yea but the fact that u put BF on hammer storm ever, wrecked your credibility, even if the rest is pretty sound logic.


lol. I like it.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 02 2010 23:20 GMT
#15188
While we're talking about items, I have a question. I never, ever find a reason to get Riftshards. I don't think it's ever even entered my mind to buy it. Sooooo.... Who's it good on, and in what situations should you get it?
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
March 02 2010 23:28 GMT
#15189
bfury sny all da way baby
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 03 2010 00:08 GMT
#15190
On March 03 2010 08:28 DevAzTaYtA wrote:
bfury sny all da way baby

why would you ruin a perfectly good build, all you need are bfuries
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
March 03 2010 00:35 GMT
#15191
i always go 2x bfury on magnus + buriza
UNFUCK YOURSELF
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 02:39:58
March 03 2010 02:36 GMT
#15192
On March 03 2010 07:57 Tadzio wrote:
I think you didn't read what I wrote. RA is core on three heroes. Situational on five heroes. Replaces Mock (if you're struggling w/farm) on three heroes. And it might be good on Madman (I don't play him enough to say for sure). Electrician was a joke.



This may not be viable in serious matches, but in DotA I used to have loads of fun with 2xBattleFury (RA) on dagger/arcane ring strenght heroes like tiny and earthshaker (pebbs and behe). I know, I know it sounds stupid but once you get two sustainers up you can pretty much spam spells. If you random and start with a lifetube it's that much easier.

It works on tiny because of his humongous damage and it works on ES because of the stomp skill. The trick would be to kill 1-2 heroes in 1 swoop (blink + stun/toss or ult/stun/stomp + bop them over the head once).

I know it sounds horrible but it's REALLY fun to play. Something to try in games you know you'll win or when pub-bashing.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 02:48:51
March 03 2010 02:48 GMT
#15193
On March 03 2010 09:35 Nitrogen wrote:
i always go 2x bfury on magnus + buriza

i heard if you put 6 bfurys on magnus every attack is sk's ult
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
March 03 2010 04:08 GMT
#15194
nothing like ward whoring for a pub and watch the crummy carries throw the game....
Done with that for pubs.
Do it beautifully
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
March 03 2010 04:14 GMT
#15195
On March 03 2010 08:20 Tadzio wrote:
While we're talking about items, I have a question. I never, ever find a reason to get Riftshards. I don't think it's ever even entered my mind to buy it. Sooooo.... Who's it good on, and in what situations should you get it?


in my humble noob opinion riftshards is never core on anyone. it shines however as a late game luxury items on heroes with steroid abilities. Dark Lady comes to mind, insane 1.2k crits very late if the game drags on can turn the tide of a battle vs other carries. But core... idk never rushed it or anything that has yielded good results.
Do it beautifully
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 03 2010 05:27 GMT
#15196
Only hero i normally see it on is Arachna after like hotd or vang. Can't really point out other heroes that get it core, its more of a luxury on alot of heroes late in the game since it scales really well.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 03 2010 06:22 GMT
#15197
Tried HoN beta for the first time today with a friend. Needless to say, we got pretty smashed, but it was still fun. Mostly because I made some guys rage fucking HARD because I was a noob, but it was still fun nonetheless. I'm started to get a feel for it, but as the game went on longer and longer I kept dying more easily than the previous time. Suddenly all I know is someone would teleport next to me or some shit and I'd be dead before I even knew what happened.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 03 2010 06:41 GMT
#15198
On March 03 2010 13:14 SwaY- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2010 08:20 Tadzio wrote:
While we're talking about items, I have a question. I never, ever find a reason to get Riftshards. I don't think it's ever even entered my mind to buy it. Sooooo.... Who's it good on, and in what situations should you get it?


in my humble noob opinion riftshards is never core on anyone. it shines however as a late game luxury items on heroes with steroid abilities. Dark Lady comes to mind, insane 1.2k crits very late if the game drags on can turn the tide of a battle vs other carries. But core... idk never rushed it or anything that has yielded good results.

Actually i think it's great item for ranged soft carries that mainly are support andromedia comes to mind

i usually go bottle, boots, 2 bracers , boots of travel, riftshards then w.e maybe a hellflower or something
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
March 03 2010 06:58 GMT
#15199
On March 03 2010 15:41 Virtue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2010 13:14 SwaY- wrote:
On March 03 2010 08:20 Tadzio wrote:
While we're talking about items, I have a question. I never, ever find a reason to get Riftshards. I don't think it's ever even entered my mind to buy it. Sooooo.... Who's it good on, and in what situations should you get it?


in my humble noob opinion riftshards is never core on anyone. it shines however as a late game luxury items on heroes with steroid abilities. Dark Lady comes to mind, insane 1.2k crits very late if the game drags on can turn the tide of a battle vs other carries. But core... idk never rushed it or anything that has yielded good results.

Actually i think it's great item for ranged soft carries that mainly are support andromedia comes to mind

i usually go bottle, boots, 2 bracers , boots of travel, riftshards then w.e maybe a hellflower or something


Who the fuck plays andromeda like a (soft)carry? Support/ganker all the way. You'd be better off with a nomes and sheep and then you can let a real carry shine
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 07:48:53
March 03 2010 07:48 GMT
#15200
On March 03 2010 15:58 iSiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2010 15:41 Virtue wrote:
On March 03 2010 13:14 SwaY- wrote:
On March 03 2010 08:20 Tadzio wrote:
While we're talking about items, I have a question. I never, ever find a reason to get Riftshards. I don't think it's ever even entered my mind to buy it. Sooooo.... Who's it good on, and in what situations should you get it?


in my humble noob opinion riftshards is never core on anyone. it shines however as a late game luxury items on heroes with steroid abilities. Dark Lady comes to mind, insane 1.2k crits very late if the game drags on can turn the tide of a battle vs other carries. But core... idk never rushed it or anything that has yielded good results.

Actually i think it's great item for ranged soft carries that mainly are support andromedia comes to mind

i usually go bottle, boots, 2 bracers , boots of travel, riftshards then w.e maybe a hellflower or something


Who the fuck plays andromeda like a (soft)carry? Support/ganker all the way. You'd be better off with a nomes and sheep and then you can let a real carry shine

Well support ganker only works for 30 mins then all she is shit if you haven't won then so riftshards and a few more items to extend her life makes her useful again. Also why waste nomes on andro there are much more frequent casters that would prefer that item.
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