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anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
October 12 2011 06:17 GMT
#31381
I'd say it depends on what lane youre' facing, if you're facing for example some lane with good auto attack harass or if you're gonna build helm of the black legion, you should probably buy shield, otherwise stats are good I suppose
Imagine a place where the Alps meet the Mediterranean, where you can pick autumn fruits in the morning, bathe in the Adriatic in the afternoon, and go night skiing in the evening…It’s Slovenia!
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
October 12 2011 07:41 GMT
#31382
hatchet, shield, and branches, and then force your support to buy you tangos and flask ofc
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
October 12 2011 08:45 GMT
#31383
Probably common sense but hatchet+3 branches+ 2 tangos when you're against another meele solo or a dual meele lane (happens way to often in pubs and can get really silly).
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17645 Posts
October 12 2011 12:29 GMT
#31384
It really depends on what level you're playing, in pubs pre-1700 you can go hatchet and regen for easier lasthits and prolonged stay in the lane. Against better opponents you'll most likely want to get shield because they're going to harass the shit out of you. Ideally you could get both but should start with just one and extra stats/regen.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
October 12 2011 14:39 GMT
#31385
stop buying hatchet, your problem is solved, you have a shield and more regen.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
October 12 2011 14:54 GMT
#31386
On October 12 2011 23:39 TurpinOS wrote:
stop buying hatchet, your problem is solved, you have a shield and more regen.

This is why we can't have nice things.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
October 12 2011 15:20 GMT
#31387
Man im so bad at HoN Started playing recently, but its been like 5 years since I've played Dota, and I've been playing LoL with friends. So hard for me to transition
Jieun <3
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 12 2011 15:42 GMT
#31388
starting items is always 4 Mark of the Novice into 4 Talisman of Exile and 1 Scarab and then throw out spells all day like a dip shit until you kill one XD but then again i'm only 1700 and ppl cal me trash all day
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 16:10:08
October 12 2011 15:50 GMT
#31389
The thing with the shield is that it can be bought in the sideshop, so if youre facing a lane not too crazy with harass, I dont think its a mistake to start with hatchet+potion+runes+some stats, then buy the shield asap with the early gold.

Im a big fan of the hatchet since they gave it a range attack on cooldown, just that itself will usually make the hatchet pay for itself relatively quick.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 18:34:56
October 12 2011 18:25 GMT
#31390
On October 13 2011 00:42 semantics wrote:
starting items is always 4 Mark of the Novice into 4 Talisman of Exile and 1 Scarab and then throw out spells all day like a dip shit until you kill one XD but then again i'm only 1700 and ppl cal me trash all day



No one gives better replies then semantics rofL

Got my name changed to VeronicaBoo, got tired of numbers in my name. Add me for some 1700 geeegeeeees
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 22:10:26
October 12 2011 22:08 GMT
#31391
http://www.reddit.com/r/HeroesofNewerth/comments/l9ryu/hon_30_pics_leaked_full_album_here_new_creeps/

some hon 3.0 pics leaked

It is an early build. Idejder confirmed that they were real, but did the usual "it is in beta anything and everything is subject to change."
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
October 12 2011 22:48 GMT
#31392
Im low 1800 looking for team

Add "Diffusion"
twitch.tv/PowerDes
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17645 Posts
October 12 2011 22:59 GMT
#31393
On October 13 2011 07:08 Crimson wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/HeroesofNewerth/comments/l9ryu/hon_30_pics_leaked_full_album_here_new_creeps/

some hon 3.0 pics leaked

It is an early build. Idejder confirmed that they were real, but did the usual "it is in beta anything and everything is subject to change."


Can't say I like new creeps. Deviating from DotA is fine but they could stick a bit more with the Newerth theme and slowly but surely change the game so it reflects that more and more.
No trees behind bases and both mid ramps/surroundings look like a huge change though...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 23:18:35
October 12 2011 23:17 GMT
#31394
Can someone give me the reason why EW isn't played or banned at the top level ?

Not trying to say that he is imba but i just want to know the reasoning and why a guy like fb seems more popular.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 12 2011 23:55 GMT
#31395
ew is pretty strong in lane but beyond that he doesn't do much of anything. he's a slow farmer but needs a ridiculous amount of farm to actually start putting out damage. he's also very easy to pick off; flint has the same problem but the bonus range helps a good amount. i don't think ew is a terrible pick but i don't think he's a very strong one either

flint, on the other hand, is a decent amount better at being useful in teamfights and a lot better at actually carrying a team. he does require a good amount of farm, but once he gets it he'll be doing far more than ew. flint isn't particularly popular either tho, you really have to make sure your lineup can turtle behind him and that it properly supports him (as in it prevents him from dying instantly all day)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
October 12 2011 23:56 GMT
#31396
On October 13 2011 07:59 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 07:08 Crimson wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/HeroesofNewerth/comments/l9ryu/hon_30_pics_leaked_full_album_here_new_creeps/

some hon 3.0 pics leaked

It is an early build. Idejder confirmed that they were real, but did the usual "it is in beta anything and everything is subject to change."


Can't say I like new creeps. Deviating from DotA is fine but they could stick a bit more with the Newerth theme and slowly but surely change the game so it reflects that more and more.
No trees behind bases and both mid ramps/surroundings look like a huge change though...


Not really sure how lack of trees behind fountain matters tbh.
But damn I looked at the trees and thought "whoa they look so different". Then I realized I don't even know what normal hon trees look like. Stumps too good.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17645 Posts
October 13 2011 00:07 GMT
#31397
EW could possibly work as a semi-carry style hero as he's got some nice tools at his disposal. The problem with him is that heroes like Valk or CD are just plain better than he is at this role.
When we're talking hardcarry Flint is way more better than EW because he's all about dealing damage with base attacks, he gets AoE damage/slow/tower kill, ministuns and long range nuke to boost it up. EW has single target silence, 2 random targets slow/nuke and AoE stun if enemies don't have truesight. EW needs to be using his skill while FB can just stand there and take people out.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 13 2011 00:08 GMT
#31398
On October 13 2011 08:55 Dead9 wrote:
ew is pretty strong in lane but beyond that he doesn't do much of anything. he's a slow farmer but needs a ridiculous amount of farm to actually start putting out damage. he's also very easy to pick off; flint has the same problem but the bonus range helps a good amount. i don't think ew is a terrible pick but i don't think he's a very strong one either

flint, on the other hand, is a decent amount better at being useful in teamfights and a lot better at actually carrying a team. he does require a good amount of farm, but once he gets it he'll be doing far more than ew. flint isn't particularly popular either tho, you really have to make sure your lineup can turtle behind him and that it properly supports him (as in it prevents him from dying instantly all day)

Flint is better because he has passives to make the late game transition to carry much stronger, EW is more of a mid carry like CD except her abilities aren't as broken for mid carry like CD and she can't farm as quickly or be as useful the bird and the 5 second silence is all very nice but there are better options out there for a mid carry.
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
October 13 2011 00:10 GMT
#31399
blah stumps.

I haven't played a lot of HoN in a while. Just haven't wanted to. Played one game the other day and was just bored with it. I have been keeping up with the updates, but there is nothing to really draw me back into it. Maybe 3.0 will change things. Just gotta wait.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 13 2011 00:14 GMT
#31400
it's cuz you're playing to win, you should play to troll, go zepher get spell shards and a codex and a tablet of command have fun derpin!
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