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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
October 07 2011 03:18 GMT
#31341
On October 07 2011 12:09 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 11:36 Thermia wrote:
On October 07 2011 08:02 wonderwall wrote:
I think one of the main reasons lower rated players fail is that they just can't last hit for the life of them. Like they pick a Chronos/Glacius lane, have complete lane control, but the Chronos only has 20 ck at 10 minutes even with a hatchet as he misses every last hit. This means he's ridiculously late on his first item, gets a 30 minute runed axe, fails to carry and blames his team for being crappy.

Yes that was a game I was in and yes I mad. 1670 game and he couldn't farm in a won lane with a Chronos with a hatchet, what the hell.


That's definitely a big reason... I play pretty much anything but it's really frustrating when I'm playing a supporting role and still get more cs in passing (while warding/creep stacking/roaming/etc) than "carries" in a dedicated farm lane.

I think another big reason people fail so hard at lower ratings is that they pick up the recommended items without any idea of why the items are recommended, like moon queens that pick up lifesteal right away without MCing a creep to farm/stack for them, or puppets with shroud that don't combo it with their ult.


I'm a 1550 right now, reasonably new to the game though i got quite a few games under my belt now, and I like to think im a decent farmer(love the new regen change on melee's been helping a lot with getting my hotbl and what not), sometime those supports don't help at all though, and make it harder to farm.. pushing the lane comes to mind, also just letting the other guy freely harass you. Sometimes you get a great support, and you get every creep first 10 minutes, and just snowball out of control though :D. I love great supports.

Being a good support player is incredibly hard; it's really tough to ward, stack, harass, and manage to get some items; at the end of any "good" game - your carries will have farm, but it's your supports items that usually swing the tide of the team fights.

This could just be my support bias. At the end of the day it is a team game with multiple roles; it sort of relies on everyone playing their role properly, or at least fucking up least than the other team;

In terms of countering heroes a lot of the times it comes down to items moreso than actual hero pickups (both play a role, but reactive items rather than just the recommended are awesome)
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 04:34:55
October 07 2011 04:34 GMT
#31342
Yo let me inform you about this thing called Nasl!
http://www.twitch.tv/naslseasontwo

HON first match of the league.
Never give up
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
October 07 2011 04:46 GMT
#31343
On October 07 2011 13:34 TheMunkey wrote:
Yo let me inform you about this thing called Nasl!
http://www.twitch.tv/naslseasontwo

HON first match of the league.



I wish it wasnt paid subscription for the HD graphics but meh.

Maybe if I followed sc2 than I would buy it but because I only watch hon I dont think its worth it to see one tournament.

still deciding.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 07 2011 07:13 GMT
#31344
sigh, if only he didn't get worthless items like hotbl and icebrand
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 07 2011 07:20 GMT
#31345
u mean if only team ez wasn't so bad at picking heroes
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 07 2011 07:23 GMT
#31346
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=342528

You can use this deal if you are planning on watching the Nasl Hon and want to save some $.

I personally am not paying for hd this time around, though if I had some extra money i might just to support the e-sports!, wasn't really happy with NASL season 1, but I'm also going on vacation for two weeks starting tomorrow, and won't be able to watch live, and I don't really care too much until the live lan finals, which im considering going to anyways since it's just down in California, and I'm in Portland. Been too a few big SC2 lans, and had a really good time so pretty seriously considering it..
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 07 2011 07:28 GMT
#31347
They tried the same game plan two times in a row and it fell flat on its face. Really do not know what ez was thinking.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
October 07 2011 07:56 GMT
#31348
Have to cringe at that Hellbringer hard support with red boots at 30 minutes. Putting like a Glacius, a Fish or even a Voodoo in that role would be just so much better.
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
October 07 2011 17:37 GMT
#31349
damn... bdiz taking the term ward bitch to a whole new level
ObserverSix2One
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel115 Posts
October 07 2011 21:16 GMT
#31350
again like last week and a week before that, I get crush when trying to install the new patch.
I have to reinstall the whole game for it to work and my setup version is pretty low, so every week instead of downloading and installing one new patch I need to install all of the patches since v2.1.0 which is extremely frustrating, anyone knows how am I supposed to deal with this problem?
I'm not a Vampire.
Scheefe
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands226 Posts
October 07 2011 21:30 GMT
#31351
Ok, so. Where do I find people that want to play original dota. As in competative mindset being serious about team picks and stuff. Because I have been playing on garena for a while and they all seem to just be retards with no brain and no communication just pick a hero you want to play and feed the other team a free win because of our retarded team comp. Should I play on ICCUP or Dotalicious or w/e the f is out there. Get me in a fucking team or somethin.
Your hero is standing at a bad posistion and deserved to die.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
October 07 2011 21:38 GMT
#31352
On October 08 2011 06:30 Scheefe wrote:
Ok, so. Where do I find people that want to play original dota. As in competative mindset being serious about team picks and stuff. Because I have been playing on garena for a while and they all seem to just be retards with no brain and no communication just pick a hero you want to play and feed the other team a free win because of our retarded team comp. Should I play on ICCUP or Dotalicious or w/e the f is out there. Get me in a fucking team or somethin.


The usual rule for these kinds of things is, once youll be good enough, youll know where to go.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#31353
i think dotalicious is generally seen as the place with the most serious players

not really sure tho, all i know is garena sux
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 07 2011 22:18 GMT
#31354
On October 08 2011 06:57 Dead9 wrote:
i think dotalicious is generally seen as the place with the most serious players

not really sure tho, all i know is garena sux

f competitive mindset

its all about being personally responsible for every game
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 08 2011 00:02 GMT
#31355
that infernal behemoth alt has that fire sound effect and every time i use the shop the burning sound just lasts forever >.>
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 00:12:02
October 08 2011 00:11 GMT
#31356
Philosophical question of the day:
Why scout is always played by retards autists with down syndrome ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 08 2011 02:15 GMT
#31357
On October 08 2011 09:11 Boblion wrote:
Philosophical question of the day:
Why geomancer/scout/parasite is always played by retards autists with down syndrome ?


i fixed it up
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
October 08 2011 02:20 GMT
#31358
Still wish they would do my Prohemoth suggestions.

Behemoth with a 14 y/o male human body, little pot belly and big thick glasses. Holding a Keyboard instead of a log. Whenever you use enrage Prohemoth shouts a quote from one of the pro players done by a voice actor (DELETE YOUR LIES AND APOLOGISE! anyone?)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 03:21:09
October 08 2011 03:12 GMT
#31359
Where's the NASL HON stream? It should be on by now...

Edit: Nevermind. It's on!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
October 08 2011 03:21 GMT
#31360
On October 08 2011 11:15 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 09:11 Boblion wrote:
Philosophical question of the day:
Why geomancer/scout/parasite is always played by retards autists with down syndrome ?


i fixed it up


here's your philosophical answer:

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