EPTI wonder if the ulti works against Tempests ult. Probably not I guess?
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chocopaw
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I wonder if the ulti works against Tempests ult. Probably not I guess? | ||
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Superbia
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babishh
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On October 06 2011 23:33 Superbia wrote: All heroes the opponent picks are OP. this lol. my friends raging over heroes they get stomped with <3 | ||
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WritersBlock
Canada91 Posts
On October 06 2011 16:37 GosuNinja wrote: Whats up guys, I just started playing HoN about a week ago and im looking for someone to help me get to 1600, i have a lot of exp in dota and LoL and i know i can play at higher ratings, but i keep getting these terrible teams, i go 8-1 and 10-0 but the players on my team are so bad i cant 1v5. im not trying to act like im super pro cause im not, but i feel like im playing by myself about 50% of my games and i cant get out of the 1500's! If u wanna message me in game my name is GosuFire. thanks I found your first problem. You play mostly support heroes (ds and glacius) but only have .55 wards per game. Vision wins games. Also you shouldn't claim to go 8-1 and 10-0 when everyone can with one search look up your detailed match history and see that your best game thus far (kdr wise, which means nothing) was 5-2 on ds. Next thing is that this isn't LoL you need to deny creeps at least in the laneing phase 2.24 denies/game is pretty poor. I'm pointing these things out because they are thing your teammates have 0 impact on and are up to you to improve on. It's my opinion that you don't yet belong above 1500 psr yet until you at least fix those things. That being said this game also has a reasonably large learning curve because your performance depends on how well you know every hero on both your team and your opponents team. If you want to get better start by not blaming your team and making changes to the things in your control. Also when reaching out to a community for help, it's best not to lie about your current skill level, your not helping yourself by doing so. I'ld recommend heading over to honcast and trying to find games with heroes in the current f2p pool to see how you should be playing your role and just general knowledge. Glhf | ||
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On October 07 2011 00:45 FinestHour wrote: Hey how do you search their best played game? Is there like a ranking website somewhere http://hon.rychlis.cz/ | ||
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XeliN
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That said I wouldn't advise striders, and my preference is usually ghost marchers. | ||
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FinestHour
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Also, prodex is baddex. Edit: I feel like I should point out that the website you linked doesn't show all your ranked matches, so calling him out like that just makes you look like an ignorant ass. I have him at 10-2-16 w/ hammerstorm matchID 62861986, 8-1 w/ Ra matchID 62852280 That being said, you definitely need to just play and get better looking at your stats. Double Edit: This is in response to + Show Spoiler + On October 07 2011 00:09 WritersBlock wrote: I found your first problem. You play mostly support heroes (ds and glacius) but only have .55 wards per game. Vision wins games. Also you shouldn't claim to go 8-1 and 10-0 when everyone can with one search look up your detailed match history and see that your best game thus far (kdr wise, which means nothing) was 5-2 on ds. Next thing is that this isn't LoL you need to deny creeps at least in the laneing phase 2.24 denies/game is pretty poor. I'm pointing these things out because they are thing your teammates have 0 impact on and are up to you to improve on. It's my opinion that you don't yet belong above 1500 psr yet until you at least fix those things. That being said this game also has a reasonably large learning curve because your performance depends on how well you know every hero on both your team and your opponents team. If you want to get better start by not blaming your team and making changes to the things in your control. Also when reaching out to a community for help, it's best not to lie about your current skill level, your not helping yourself by doing so. I'ld recommend heading over to honcast and trying to find games with heroes in the current f2p pool to see how you should be playing your role and just general knowledge. Glhf Triple Edit: Are multiple people playing this account? You have some huge variance in your games Gosu | ||
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GosuNinja
United States127 Posts
On October 07 2011 00:09 WritersBlock wrote: I found your first problem. You play mostly support heroes (ds and glacius) but only have .55 wards per game. Vision wins games. Also you shouldn't claim to go 8-1 and 10-0 when everyone can with one search look up your detailed match history and see that your best game thus far (kdr wise, which means nothing) was 5-2 on ds. Next thing is that this isn't LoL you need to deny creeps at least in the laneing phase 2.24 denies/game is pretty poor. I'm pointing these things out because they are thing your teammates have 0 impact on and are up to you to improve on. It's my opinion that you don't yet belong above 1500 psr yet until you at least fix those things. That being said this game also has a reasonably large learning curve because your performance depends on how well you know every hero on both your team and your opponents team. If you want to get better start by not blaming your team and making changes to the things in your control. Also when reaching out to a community for help, it's best not to lie about your current skill level, your not helping yourself by doing so. I'ld recommend heading over to honcast and trying to find games with heroes in the current f2p pool to see how you should be playing your role and just general knowledge. Glhf Ok i will work on my CK and CD, but im not sure where you got my best game being 5-2? I just played a game and went 13-3(we still lost). Most of my games are like that. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
If your average warding is .55 (terrible for any player, hell im @ 1.85 and I never pick support heroes..) then you have no business picking support heroes, so you either need to increase your warding rate. Learn the different warding positions, and which are stronger for hellborne and legion, as well as stronger//weaker for different periods of the game, lineups, strategies etc. And as your doing this try to start paying attention to enemy warders Did you notice an enemy colour pop into sight on the minimap only to move back again for seemingly no reason? He may have just warded... Also never ward (or almost never, there are some double bluffish benefits to this at times) in the same spot you have just countered an enemy ward. Or you could stop picking support heroes and learn how to creep hit. | ||
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wonderwall
New Zealand695 Posts
Yes that was a game I was in and yes I mad. 1670 game and he couldn't farm in a won lane with a Chronos with a hatchet, what the hell. | ||
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Suisen
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http://hon.rychlis.cz/kagekatsu/ I would really agree that in the games I play people don't lasthit and deny properly. Also they don't know who should harass and who should farm. Almost everyone autoattacks. The main question I have is how to pick heroes. I play purely pub games for now. Some people will instantly pick some carry and usually one of the f2p ones, like magebane or night hound currently. Then some will show or pick something. But always 2 or so will not show and pick last minute. Very often a team will have too many melee heroes and too many carries. People that will ward and support are hard to find. I myself like to play smart and I would play support and ward were it not that currently because of how bad I was and how much I improved, I almost have by far the highest kd on the team. This means I am better off as a carry with no wards than as a support with me warding. Trying to communicate and tell the statistically less good people to play support doesn't really work. I bought defiler and now slither is also f2p so I picked those quite some times as well as they will help with a str and melee carry heavy team. There's probably no solution for this but any input would be nice. Another thing is about hero counters and hero synergy. There's like close to a 100 heros in this game. Is there as site that tells me what heroes counter who and what heroes synergize with other heroes. Memorizing it all isn't easy. But figuring it out all yourself based on your own game experience is even less viable. It's like in SC ignoring progamer builds and strategy and trying to figure out and solve the game all by yourself in isolation. Only site I found so far was very incomplete. | ||
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WritersBlock
Canada91 Posts
On October 07 2011 03:50 Risen wrote: Wards per game is such a huge indicator of how good a support player you are (if that's what your most played consists of). My wpg is 4.13 and even that could be higher considering I ONLY play support with few exceptions. Also, prodex is baddex. Edit: I feel like I should point out that the website you linked doesn't show all your ranked matches, so calling him out like that just makes you look like an ignorant ass. I have him at 10-2-16 w/ hammerstorm matchID 62861986, 8-1 w/ Ra matchID 62852280 That being said, you definitely need to just play and get better looking at your stats. Double Edit: This is in response to + Show Spoiler + On October 07 2011 00:09 WritersBlock wrote: I found your first problem. You play mostly support heroes (ds and glacius) but only have .55 wards per game. Vision wins games. Also you shouldn't claim to go 8-1 and 10-0 when everyone can with one search look up your detailed match history and see that your best game thus far (kdr wise, which means nothing) was 5-2 on ds. Next thing is that this isn't LoL you need to deny creeps at least in the laneing phase 2.24 denies/game is pretty poor. I'm pointing these things out because they are thing your teammates have 0 impact on and are up to you to improve on. It's my opinion that you don't yet belong above 1500 psr yet until you at least fix those things. That being said this game also has a reasonably large learning curve because your performance depends on how well you know every hero on both your team and your opponents team. If you want to get better start by not blaming your team and making changes to the things in your control. Also when reaching out to a community for help, it's best not to lie about your current skill level, your not helping yourself by doing so. I'ld recommend heading over to honcast and trying to find games with heroes in the current f2p pool to see how you should be playing your role and just general knowledge. Glhf Triple Edit: Are multiple people playing this account? You have some huge variance in your games Gosu Posting useful advice, compared to your bragging isn't being an ignorant ass, it's being helpful. @Gosu I see today you tried playing pure carry, your last hits seem like the problem there. To help with that you should make a custom game pick the hero that you plan to play for a the new few games, and just sit there and practice last hitting until you're getting almost every creep every wave. @Suisen Congrats on grinding your way up a 100 psr in like 3 days Looks like your doing things right cs wise. To my knowledge there isn't a resource of all the counters/heroes. This one is ok iirc http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=211500&highlight=miniguide Worked for me back in beta anyways, don't know how relevant it is anymore. Best way to learn it is to play with people that have experience a bunch and learn to pick from them Imo. | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On October 07 2011 08:02 wonderwall wrote: I think one of the main reasons lower rated players fail is that they just can't last hit for the life of them. Like they pick a Chronos/Glacius lane, have complete lane control, but the Chronos only has 20 ck at 10 minutes even with a hatchet as he misses every last hit. This means he's ridiculously late on his first item, gets a 30 minute runed axe, fails to carry and blames his team for being crappy. Yes that was a game I was in and yes I mad. 1670 game and he couldn't farm in a won lane with a Chronos with a hatchet, what the hell. That's definitely a big reason... I play pretty much anything but it's really frustrating when I'm playing a supporting role and still get more cs in passing (while warding/creep stacking/roaming/etc) than "carries" in a dedicated farm lane. I think another big reason people fail so hard at lower ratings is that they pick up the recommended items without any idea of why the items are recommended, like moon queens that pick up lifesteal right away without MCing a creep to farm/stack for them, or puppets with shroud that don't combo it with their ult. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 07 2011 11:36 Thermia wrote: That's definitely a big reason... I play pretty much anything but it's really frustrating when I'm playing a supporting role and still get more cs in passing (while warding/creep stacking/roaming/etc) than "carries" in a dedicated farm lane. I think another big reason people fail so hard at lower ratings is that they pick up the recommended items without any idea of why the items are recommended, like moon queens that pick up lifesteal right away without MCing a creep to farm/stack for them, or puppets with shroud that don't combo it with their ult. I'm a 1550 right now, reasonably new to the game though i got quite a few games under my belt now, and I like to think im a decent farmer(love the new regen change on melee's been helping a lot with getting my hotbl and what not), sometime those supports don't help at all though, and make it harder to farm.. pushing the lane comes to mind, also just letting the other guy freely harass you. Sometimes you get a great support, and you get every creep first 10 minutes, and just snowball out of control though :D. I love great supports. | ||
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