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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17872 Posts
October 13 2011 17:22 GMT
#31421
At this level wards have very little to do with team winning or losing. Even if they're there people still won't acknowledge their existence and are absolutely oblivious to the presence of minimap.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
October 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#31422
On October 14 2011 02:22 Manit0u wrote:
At this level wards have very little to do with team winning or losing. Even if they're there people still won't acknowledge their existence and are absolutely oblivious to the presence of minimap.

Well if you're a hard carry like scout, mm, or mb, then it's quite easy to farm to the point of being out of hand with a ward.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Asway
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada37 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 18:34:17
October 13 2011 18:26 GMT
#31423
[image loading]


Cyber Sports Network is running a playHEROES tournament. There will be four tournaments, each tournament will take place on Sunday(16th, 23rd, 30th 6th) The winner of each tournament will get $200 and points. After the four tournaments, the top four teams with the most points will play in a finals tournament. There will be two bo3's going on. The two winners will play in the finals, the winning team will get $500 and the second place team will get $300.

sign ups can be found here: http://cyber-sports.net/event/playheroes
^-^
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17872 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 18:57:51
October 13 2011 18:53 GMT
#31424
Nice. But why FCJ? T_T

Edit: by the way, Esports Heaven Tournament Quarter-Finals - MSI vs PORT is starting in 2 minutes @ honcast.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 13 2011 20:04 GMT
#31425
After two months of HoN ( first dota game ) i'm back at 1500 mmr after being down to 1100 at my lowest. I'm still terrible:

My shitty stats:
+ Show Spoiler +

K:D: 0.54
K+A:D: 1.75

K/D/A: 3.64/6.75/8.19
CK: 43.4
CD: 8.2
Xp/min: 297
gold/min: 165 ( lol )
Wards: 3

Win: 140
Losses: 144

I'm mostly playing PR and Witch slayer with a bit of Ew / slith / elec sometimes. Best results with PR and WS. I think i managed to get back to 1500 just because i'm often the only guy willing to ward in game lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 13 2011 20:21 GMT
#31426
you played sc at that mmr, pick tremble go hatchet and shield, take mid lane and rape most heroes(exceptions being pred, dev, dr repuslor and i think a few others beat him mid) out last hit ppl and make them run away till lvl 6 then just tower dive all day for kills, just need to get him with ghost marchers and tank items and you can just run heroes down all day, if someone jumps on you, throw down a mound and ghost marcher away with like 502ms it's really abusive to play tremble at lower mmr's, 2 units how will i ever manage 2 key bindings and using tab key t-a0t-a! That or you could play ophilia but i don't care for her late game scaling, tremble is a solid mid carry into tank.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 13 2011 21:01 GMT
#31427
On October 14 2011 05:21 semantics wrote:
you played sc at that mmr, pick tremble go hatchet and shield, take mid lane and rape most heroes(exceptions being pred, dev, dr repuslor and i think a few others beat him mid) out last hit ppl and make them run away till lvl 6 then just tower dive all day for kills, just need to get him with ghost marchers and tank items and you can just run heroes down all day, if someone jumps on you, throw down a mound and ghost marcher away with like 502ms it's really abusive to play tremble at lower mmr's, 2 units how will i ever manage 2 key bindings and using tab key t-a0t-a! That or you could play ophilia but i don't care for her late game scaling, tremble is a solid mid carry into tank.


I was going to say tremble too, no one will ever buy rev wards.

Semantics 2000mmr gosu
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:09:22
October 13 2011 21:08 GMT
#31428
kraken is a carry
not quite as hard as other carries but he still carries really well
probably around as strong as cd lategame
maybe a little weaker thx to being melee but close enough
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
October 13 2011 21:36 GMT
#31429
On October 14 2011 06:08 Dead9 wrote:
kraken is a carry
not quite as hard as other carries but he still carries really well
probably around as strong as cd lategame
maybe a little weaker thx to being melee but close enough

I think i have to disagree with the CD comparison. Corrupted conduit is the most ridiculous skill late game; and if you can play with good positioning, a good conduit in a team fight outputs a ridiculous amount of damage. I know it is a bit of an arbitrary argument about who carries "harder" but i think conduit + range put CD _well_ above Kraken
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 13 2011 21:46 GMT
#31430
On October 14 2011 05:21 semantics wrote:
you played sc at that mmr, pick tremble go hatchet and shield, take mid lane and rape most heroes(exceptions being pred, dev, dr repuslor and i think a few others beat him mid) out last hit ppl and make them run away till lvl 6 then just tower dive all day for kills, just need to get him with ghost marchers and tank items and you can just run heroes down all day, if someone jumps on you, throw down a mound and ghost marcher away with like 502ms it's really abusive to play tremble at lower mmr's, 2 units how will i ever manage 2 key bindings and using tab key t-a0t-a! That or you could play ophilia but i don't care for her late game scaling, tremble is a solid mid carry into tank.

Hahhaha just bought him went 6/14/14 everyone called me noob but we won LOL

It seems that he has a quite high skill ceilling compared to let say ws or pr lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#31431
ws actually has an amazingly high skill ceiling
pr might be a different story
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 22:03:35
October 13 2011 22:01 GMT
#31432
On October 14 2011 06:51 Kupon3ss wrote:
ws actually has an amazingly high skill ceiling
pr might be a different story

Orly ?
He seems really simple to me and i'm really bad. Like mini / auto attack / stun / bullet to finish then move on to next gank.

I can understand that tremble, silhouette or heroes with multi units need some skill to be effective but i don't really get how you can be much better with ws.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
October 13 2011 22:09 GMT
#31433
On October 14 2011 07:01 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 06:51 Kupon3ss wrote:
ws actually has an amazingly high skill ceiling
pr might be a different story

Orly ?
He seems really simple to me and i'm really bad. Like mini / auto attack / stun / bullet to finish then move on to next gank.

I can understand that tremble, silhouette or heroes with multi units need some skill to be effective but i don't really get how you can be much better with ws.

he is right witch slayer is one of the heroes with a really high skill cap. its about positioning, its about map awareness, knowing who and when to gank, keeping vision up etc.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 13 2011 22:18 GMT
#31434
Hardest skill on ws is ulting right after stunning so someone else can get the kill, true story
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
October 13 2011 22:36 GMT
#31435
On October 14 2011 07:18 FinestHour wrote:
Hardest skill on ws is ulting right after stunning so someone else can get the kill, true story

But BRO! I need dem kills! I snipe them at <10 hp just to make sure they die! How else do i afford items!?

What!? I don't need items? I should buy wards? Pfff wards are for nooobs bro - watch me get another kill!

*loses game*

OMG i was 7/3 and you noobs lost us the game!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:00:51
October 13 2011 22:59 GMT
#31436
Well 2 skills, one is to learn how to stun without clicking on the enemy hero, which allows you to stun heroes with null stone it also i think increase the range at which you can hit them by 200. That and positing WS has such shitty hp if you get too close to a group of heroes you'll die so fast you wont be able to ult someone. Frankly his ult range is what 700 which does mean you can use it once someone runs away from you just outside of your attack range. WS hard part is learning that striders port key = roamer god at ganks but you have to kill enough to get port key or become useless very quickly

But yeah playing a good ws vs a good pr WS is much harder, although i'd Pr is more useful too.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 14 2011 00:56 GMT
#31437
Well frankly i'd just go flintbeastwood
get 3 talismans after getting steamboots(set to int) then get spellshards and ult ppl all day, which goes into hell flower and harkons. it shall be known as flINTbeastwood where you put nothing but flare, ult and stats XD
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 01:03:12
October 14 2011 00:58 GMT
#31438
On October 14 2011 09:56 semantics wrote:
Well frankly i'd just go flintbeastwood
get 3 talismans after getting steamboots(set to int) then get spellshards and ult ppl all day, which goes into hell flower and harkons. it shall be known as flINTbeastwood where you put nothing but flare, ult and stats XD



after reading this i have decided that this is my new casual mode build

YOU FORGOT THE REFRESHER BROOOOOO
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 14 2011 01:32 GMT
#31439
Refresher on an ult that cool down is like 10 seconds, alternatively you can go codex and port key if you dont got hell flower and harkons, but in casual mode lol it's a beast if you get mid you can usually kill mid solo 2 3 times before he realizes you can spam you ults. Only problem is you might need a tablet of command early on if they have alot fo slow or disables you can't get away from easily like dev.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 14 2011 01:34 GMT
#31440
On October 14 2011 10:32 semantics wrote:
Refresher on an ult that cool down is like 10 seconds, alternatively you can go codex and port key if you dont got hell flower and harkons, but in casual mode lol it's a beast if you get mid you can usually kill mid solo 2 3 times before he realizes you can spam you ults. Only problem is you might need a tablet of command early on if they have alot fo slow or disables you can't get away from easily like dev.



i demand a play date
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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