EPTBuild is steamboots into PuzzleBox 3, then Spellshards, Codex iirc.. Puzzlebox wizard's Mana Burn+Magebane Orb+Spellshards=mega ulti damage =D
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wonderwall
New Zealand695 Posts
Build is steamboots into PuzzleBox 3, then Spellshards, Codex iirc.. Puzzlebox wizard's Mana Burn+Magebane Orb+Spellshards=mega ulti damage =D | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:36 bkrow wrote: I think i have to disagree with the CD comparison. Corrupted conduit is the most ridiculous skill late game; and if you can play with good positioning, a good conduit in a team fight outputs a ridiculous amount of damage. I know it is a bit of an arbitrary argument about who carries "harder" but i think conduit + range put CD _well_ above Kraken  yea but kraken has other things going for him, it's not just about autoattack damage a lot of nuke damage, a lot of autoattack damage, a lot of disables, a lot of survivability, a blink, better farming, etc | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17785 Posts
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semantics
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
but never surrender | ||
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semantics
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Manit0u
Poland17785 Posts
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
Playing DS, team is decent...not amazing, but solid, and we stayed fairly even through laning phase into midgame. A dev + mq(i think) start bitching at me early, whining about no wards, that I'm being worthless etc, all because I missed a lightning fast gank on the sw i was babying. Mid pyro initiated on him from cover with her ulti, then wave, and finally he was last hit by accursed's Q(LOL). All in a matter of one second. Apparently, I should have both healed him and cloaked him instantly. Remember, this is 1550 MMR we're talking here. Well, laning phase transitions into team fights, and we have a couple of bad team fights. After the first, in which I admittedly misclicked my cloak onto the wrong hero in the middle of a super messy fight, the raging really started. Apparently, I'm the only reason anyone died. Ever. Also, not only am I worthless, but I'm not even warding(1 ward up, one just expired, I have 0 money). Dev even started a vote-kick. Second team fight happens at out second mid tower. Another big messy fight, spells everywhere, literally 10 seconds long. I'm the only one to survive on my team, I have a sliver of health, and barely more than a sliver of mana as I scamper back to base, chalice on cooldown even. All caps from Dev, "DS DID YOU CAST EVEN ONE SPELL THE ENTIRE FIGHT!?!!?" Long story short, I farmed a bit while they were respawning, bought out every ward for the rest of the game, and placed them to protect sw while he farms like mad for 10 solid minutes while the rest of us run in circles, and then we rofl cruise for the comeback victory. TLDR:Support is really fun, you should try it some time. | ||
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On October 14 2011 22:08 Sm3agol wrote: TLDR:Support is really fun, you should try it some time. Yea playing support is awesome, especially ws when you just stun and give them the kills and then they say that you have a shitty K/D LOL | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17785 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:03 ZaaaaaM wrote: OMFG again a patch... I have to reinstall the game everytime there is a new patch because I get a "K2 Exception Error". There are alot of ppl having the same thing but none of the given solutions work for me... Now this wouldn't be a big deal if they didnt release 15 patches per week. :S Are you using any mods? Perhaps that's what's screwing with your client? Either that or Windows Vista. | ||
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:42 Manit0u wrote: Are you using any mods? Perhaps that's what's screwing with your client? Either that or Windows Vista. Zero mods, Windows XP. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:32 Boblion wrote: Yea playing support is awesome, especially ws when you just stun and give them the kills and then they say that you have a shitty K/D LOL I support a lot of my games and I don't have shitty KDR. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On October 14 2011 22:08 Sm3agol wrote: Another post about a fun game last night. I hope you people don't get tired of these posts, HoN is hilarious sometimes. Playing DS, team is decent...not amazing, but solid, and we stayed fairly even through laning phase into midgame. A dev + mq(i think) start bitching at me early, whining about no wards, that I'm being worthless etc, all because I missed a lightning fast gank on the sw i was babying. Mid pyro initiated on him from cover with her ulti, then wave, and finally he was last hit by accursed's Q(LOL). All in a matter of one second. Apparently, I should have both healed him and cloaked him instantly. Remember, this is 1550 MMR we're talking here. Well, laning phase transitions into team fights, and we have a couple of bad team fights. After the first, in which I admittedly misclicked my cloak onto the wrong hero in the middle of a super messy fight, the raging really started. Apparently, I'm the only reason anyone died. Ever. Also, not only am I worthless, but I'm not even warding(1 ward up, one just expired, I have 0 money). Dev even started a vote-kick. Second team fight happens at out second mid tower. Another big messy fight, spells everywhere, literally 10 seconds long. I'm the only one to survive on my team, I have a sliver of health, and barely more than a sliver of mana as I scamper back to base, chalice on cooldown even. All caps from Dev, "DS DID YOU CAST EVEN ONE SPELL THE ENTIRE FIGHT!?!!?" Long story short, I farmed a bit while they were respawning, bought out every ward for the rest of the game, and placed them to protect sw while he farms like mad for 10 solid minutes while the rest of us run in circles, and then we rofl cruise for the comeback victory. TLDR:Support is really fun, you should try it some time. I'd strong recommend just typing /ignore add [player name] in situations like that. Usually people like that won't give any real constructive advice/commentary, and it helps a lot to be able to focus on your game and making good decisions instead of getting emotionally involved in some asinine keyboard war. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:05 Alventenie wrote: I support a lot of my games and I don't have shitty KDR. On October 14 2011 07:36 bkrow wrote: But BRO! I need dem kills! I snipe them at <10 hp just to make sure they die! How else do i afford items!? What!? I don't need items? I should buy wards? Pfff wards are for nooobs bro - watch me get another kill! *loses game* OMG i was 7/3 and you noobs lost us the game! WS DILEMMA >.< And omg tremble is such a farm machine. I get 500+ gpm and i m not even good at getting last hit on creeps lol. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:05 Alventenie wrote: I support a lot of my games and I don't have shitty KDR. Then you are probably doing it wrong. Unless you are playing a "support" like plague who has a super powerful damage ulti + amazing damage Q, you SHOULD have a negative kdr. That means you gave the kills to your carry and sacrificed yourself to keep him alive a few times. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
Last night played a GM, i think it was a chick and we rolled their team lol | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
On October 15 2011 02:09 Sm3agol wrote: Then you are probably doing it wrong. Unless you are playing a "support" like plague who has a super powerful damage ulti + amazing damage Q, you SHOULD have a negative kdr. That means you gave the kills to your carry and sacrificed yourself to keep him alive a few times. im a 1900 player who supports most of my games. I gank often as well as keeping my carry protected. 80% of my kills early/mid game don't involve the carry in them because he is safely farming. Most of our kills are split between the gankers/supports. I also play smart and position myself in a lot of fights to not die needlessly or be picked off by the opposing teams nukers. I have zero problem finishing games with positive KDR. | ||
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
On October 15 2011 02:09 Sm3agol wrote: Then you are probably doing it wrong. Unless you are playing a "support" like plague who has a super powerful damage ulti + amazing damage Q, you SHOULD have a negative kdr. That means you gave the kills to your carry and sacrificed yourself to keep him alive a few times. The thing is, you can have a positive KDR and play support properly. The common mentality that supports must have negative KDR is due to poor play and false justification. The foremost reason for a negative KDR is that bad support players often wrack up deaths unnecessarily. They'll ward poorly by going to dangerous positions on their own rather than with team support (or just at the right time). They'll also "sacrifice themselves for the carry" when they actually didn't need to die. They'll have bad positioning and get picked off, either in a team fight or while moving around the map (as they're squishy). Alventenie is good and knows what he's talking about. That's evidence that there is a way to play support without killing stealing and yet have a positive KDR. What you should think is, "This good support player has a positive KDR so there must be something else to playing support properly that I'm missing." Edit: Oh, he posted while I took a long time to type. Alv gives some good examples. | ||
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