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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
September 29 2011 22:00 GMT
#31221
On September 28 2011 22:41 SK.Testie wrote:
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On September 27 2011 05:25 paper wrote:
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rpf's protip of the day :3


this is so good


thx baby

ur so gud too
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 29 2011 22:20 GMT
#31222
On September 27 2011 22:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
Haha, semijew? Who's that? I don't know the HoN proplayers that well but I love Semijew ;D!

Uh, SemiJew goes by IsaacJewton nowadays, but he's been around forever.

MSI spotlight up for NASL... http://nasl.tv/News/Article/2011-09-29-hon-team-profile-fnaticmsi

Who hates on Freshpro? He might not be 'the best at the world at his role', but he would be if his only role was to play Pharaoh.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 22:26:55
September 29 2011 22:25 GMT
#31223
On September 27 2011 22:25 Torte de Lini wrote:
Whoa, EZ is a real clan? Who's with Testie in there?

They qualified for DH as well

On September 30 2011 07:20 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 22:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
Haha, semijew? Who's that? I don't know the HoN proplayers that well but I love Semijew ;D!

Uh, SemiJew goes by IsaacJewton nowadays, but he's been around forever.

MSI spotlight up for NASL... http://nasl.tv/News/Article/2011-09-29-hon-team-profile-fnaticmsi

Who hates on Freshpro? He might not be 'the best at the world at his role', but he would be if his only role was to play Pharaoh.

That's SIR isaacjewton to you! Freshpro is awesome - i miss his stream i don't know why he receives such hate? And LOL - 14/22 first place wins, that is impressive haha
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#31224
More like Freshthrow amirite?

Everyone gets hate in hon, just how the community works. Don't think anyone really cares about it though.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 30 2011 04:35 GMT
#31225
he's really good at whispering helm too

i wanna see him play some ophelia but fly is always on the jungler
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 30 2011 12:11 GMT
#31226
Holy guacamole what a patch!
The one thing i don't get is the Fayde stun buff, I thought it was pretty good already.
Also, pseudo Chronos buff ftw.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
ObserverSix2One
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel115 Posts
September 30 2011 12:27 GMT
#31227
when the patch finished downloading and started installing I got a crash message, what the hell am I suppose to do?
I'm not a Vampire.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
September 30 2011 12:48 GMT
#31228
Scout
- Base Damage adjusted from 45-59 to 50-54
- Vanish cooldown from 24/18/12/6 to 15/12/9/6
- Electric Eyes no longer give experience to enemies who kill them
* They still give gold
- The Detonate ability on Electric Eyes moved from Q to E


Just what scout needed..........a buff, lol.

Forsaken Archer
- Piercing Arrows now leaves behind an Illusion that channels for you
* Can still be interrupted by stunning the illusion
- Piercing Arrows Magic Damage per arrow reduced from 75/150/225 to 75/125/175


THIS, however is very, very sexy. A nerf in damage, but lets you ulti, then continue to move and attack normally. Well done.

All melee heroes
- Base health regeneration increased from 0.25 to 1.25 health per second

Holy yes. Needed so bad.


Geomancer
- Crystal Field Magic Damage from 250/350/450 to 300/450/600

Hammerstorm
- Mighty Swing area from 175 to 175/200/225/250
- Mighty Swing splash from 12.5/25/37.5/50% to 15/30/45/60%


Holy crap on both of these. Geo can deal some damage now, and Hammer....... 0_o. He was OP enough as it is.

Swiftblade
- Finally allowed Swiftblade to use Portal Key while Swift Slashing!

And yet another hero that does not need a buff in any way possible. Fortunately, I like playing sb. :-p
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
September 30 2011 12:51 GMT
#31229
I guess they just wanted to shift focus away from Silhoutte a bit in terms of carry.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 30 2011 13:59 GMT
#31230
On September 30 2011 21:48 Sm3agol wrote:
Hammerstorm
- Mighty Swing area from 175 to 175/200/225/250
- Mighty Swing splash from 12.5/25/37.5/50% to 15/30/45/60%


I just wanna point out that this is the kind of change I love: Buffing something so it gives you more variety in skill orders, more things to try out. No idea if anybody will finally use it now, but just the idea that you now maybe can go 1 point in galvanize and max mighty swing after hammer to get a farmboost is cool. The support-hammer we see in competetive play still has no use for it obviously, but cool nonetheless.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 14:13:10
September 30 2011 14:12 GMT
#31231
Perhaps we're going to see some semi-carry hammer re-surfacing now. I remember he used to be pretty strong with PK, shrunken and runed.

btw. I guess eveyone is going to ban Leggionaire against Complexity now
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
September 30 2011 14:49 GMT
#31232
A couple of pages before Smeagol tells us Magebane isn't really a hard carry because he scales so badly.

And now you just had to share your thoughts on the balance of the game with us. Hammerstorm? Overpowered? Scout? Swiftblade? I mean I know you are not a very good player and that is okay, but maybe keep this in mind yourself and refrain from commenting on balance?
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 17:38:24
September 30 2011 17:37 GMT
#31233
On September 30 2011 23:49 Ethenielle wrote:
A couple of pages before Smeagol tells us Magebane isn't really a hard carry because he scales so badly.

And now you just had to share your thoughts on the balance of the game with us. Hammerstorm? Overpowered? Scout? Swiftblade? I mean I know you are not a very good player and that is okay, but maybe keep this in mind yourself and refrain from commenting on balance?

I don't think I said he wasn't a hard carry, or didn't mean that, more that he doesn't scale well into super late-game. I've carried with him in quite a few games, and if you get a couple level lead and some items, he'll own face for a long time. Pair him up vs a late game hero like SW/zephyr/sb, etc, and he just doesn't have the capability to take any of them on 1 v 1 without help.

And I don't see where my level has anything to do with posting. Is there a minimum MMR rating you have to achieve before you can offer your opinion on balance? I know at my level of play, carry SB, scout, and Hammer are really common already, and quite annoying to deal with pre-patch. So I post about it, because I feel they'll be even harder to deal with now. You sit on your high horse playing over 9000 MMR games where carry hammer is terrible, and I'll sit on mine.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 30 2011 17:51 GMT
#31234
No female magebane alt


I am saddened
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
September 30 2011 18:13 GMT
#31235
On October 01 2011 02:37 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 23:49 Ethenielle wrote:
A couple of pages before Smeagol tells us Magebane isn't really a hard carry because he scales so badly.

And now you just had to share your thoughts on the balance of the game with us. Hammerstorm? Overpowered? Scout? Swiftblade? I mean I know you are not a very good player and that is okay, but maybe keep this in mind yourself and refrain from commenting on balance?

I don't think I said he wasn't a hard carry, or didn't mean that, more that he doesn't scale well into super late-game. I've carried with him in quite a few games, and if you get a couple level lead and some items, he'll own face for a long time. Pair him up vs a late game hero like SW/zephyr/sb, etc, and he just doesn't have the capability to take any of them on 1 v 1 without help.

And I don't see where my level has anything to do with posting. Is there a minimum MMR rating you have to achieve before you can offer your opinion on balance? I know at my level of play, carry SB, scout, and Hammer are really common already, and quite annoying to deal with pre-patch. So I post about it, because I feel they'll be even harder to deal with now. You sit on your high horse playing over 9000 MMR games where carry hammer is terrible, and I'll sit on mine.


What ^^

Zephyr and SW are both extremely terrible late game 1v1 carries.

Zephyr is a strong carry due to his farming and AoE abilities, meaning he can get items fast and deals a lot of damage to multiple heroes.

Same thing with SW, its his ability to deal damage to everyone and tank/transfer back a lot of damage that makes him a strong carry.

They are both extremely bad at 1v1 late game, and any magebane with the same farm would win this, no questions asked.

You are correct though, that magebane doesnt have the best scaling abilities, What he has going for him is his lower attack speed.

He obviously cant out 1v1 late game SB /tdl/scout though


And seriously, who would level hammers AoE...its just a cool buff for the few that did.
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 18:30:07
September 30 2011 18:29 GMT
#31236
On October 01 2011 03:13 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 02:37 Sm3agol wrote:
On September 30 2011 23:49 Ethenielle wrote:
A couple of pages before Smeagol tells us Magebane isn't really a hard carry because he scales so badly.

And now you just had to share your thoughts on the balance of the game with us. Hammerstorm? Overpowered? Scout? Swiftblade? I mean I know you are not a very good player and that is okay, but maybe keep this in mind yourself and refrain from commenting on balance?

I don't think I said he wasn't a hard carry, or didn't mean that, more that he doesn't scale well into super late-game. I've carried with him in quite a few games, and if you get a couple level lead and some items, he'll own face for a long time. Pair him up vs a late game hero like SW/zephyr/sb, etc, and he just doesn't have the capability to take any of them on 1 v 1 without help.

And I don't see where my level has anything to do with posting. Is there a minimum MMR rating you have to achieve before you can offer your opinion on balance? I know at my level of play, carry SB, scout, and Hammer are really common already, and quite annoying to deal with pre-patch. So I post about it, because I feel they'll be even harder to deal with now. You sit on your high horse playing over 9000 MMR games where carry hammer is terrible, and I'll sit on mine.


What ^^

Zephyr and SW are both extremely terrible late game 1v1 carries.

Zephyr is a strong carry due to his farming and AoE abilities, meaning he can get items fast and deals a lot of damage to multiple heroes.

Same thing with SW, its his ability to deal damage to everyone and tank/transfer back a lot of damage that makes him a strong carry.

They are both extremely bad at 1v1 late game, and any magebane with the same farm would win this, no questions asked.

You are correct though, that magebane doesnt have the best scaling abilities, What he has going for him is his lower attack speed.

He obviously cant out 1v1 late game SB /tdl/scout though


And seriously, who would level hammers AoE...its just a cool buff for the few that did.

Well, I'm talking from my experience watching and playing. Zephyr is hella annoying late game and virtually unkillable. Maybe he's not exactly a "carry" late game, because his pure damage output doesn't scale that well, but he can just sit there and drop his ulti and sweep people into his AoE damage, while his farm + healing ability lets him tank almost anything. SW is kind of the same thing. Just give him a mock and let him chill in the middle of team fights and ulti and he is super annoying to deal with. Maybe they're aren't really "hard carries" late game, but they are super useful lategame. And maybe I was just using a bad item build, but zephyr and SW have both handily beaten my magebane 1 v 1 lategame. SW with mock/behe heart/wingbow/HotBL = 0_0
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2011 18:46 GMT
#31237
On October 01 2011 03:13 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 02:37 Sm3agol wrote:
On September 30 2011 23:49 Ethenielle wrote:
A couple of pages before Smeagol tells us Magebane isn't really a hard carry because he scales so badly.

And now you just had to share your thoughts on the balance of the game with us. Hammerstorm? Overpowered? Scout? Swiftblade? I mean I know you are not a very good player and that is okay, but maybe keep this in mind yourself and refrain from commenting on balance?

I don't think I said he wasn't a hard carry, or didn't mean that, more that he doesn't scale well into super late-game. I've carried with him in quite a few games, and if you get a couple level lead and some items, he'll own face for a long time. Pair him up vs a late game hero like SW/zephyr/sb, etc, and he just doesn't have the capability to take any of them on 1 v 1 without help.

And I don't see where my level has anything to do with posting. Is there a minimum MMR rating you have to achieve before you can offer your opinion on balance? I know at my level of play, carry SB, scout, and Hammer are really common already, and quite annoying to deal with pre-patch. So I post about it, because I feel they'll be even harder to deal with now. You sit on your high horse playing over 9000 MMR games where carry hammer is terrible, and I'll sit on mine.


What ^^

Zephyr and SW are both extremely terrible late game 1v1 carries.

Zephyr is a strong carry due to his farming and AoE abilities, meaning he can get items fast and deals a lot of damage to multiple heroes.

Same thing with SW, its his ability to deal damage to everyone and tank/transfer back a lot of damage that makes him a strong carry.

They are both extremely bad at 1v1 late game, and any magebane with the same farm would win this, no questions asked.

You are correct though, that magebane doesnt have the best scaling abilities, What he has going for him is his lower attack speed.

He obviously cant out 1v1 late game SB /tdl/scout though


And seriously, who would level hammers AoE...its just a cool buff for the few that did.


I know you're not talking about Sand Wraith, even though it REALLY SOUNDS LIKE you're talking about Sand Wraith. Because if you're talking about Sand Wraith...... wtf?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factorο»Ώ/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 19:02:17
September 30 2011 18:59 GMT
#31238
On October 01 2011 03:46 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 03:13 TurpinOS wrote:
On October 01 2011 02:37 Sm3agol wrote:
On September 30 2011 23:49 Ethenielle wrote:
A couple of pages before Smeagol tells us Magebane isn't really a hard carry because he scales so badly.

And now you just had to share your thoughts on the balance of the game with us. Hammerstorm? Overpowered? Scout? Swiftblade? I mean I know you are not a very good player and that is okay, but maybe keep this in mind yourself and refrain from commenting on balance?

I don't think I said he wasn't a hard carry, or didn't mean that, more that he doesn't scale well into super late-game. I've carried with him in quite a few games, and if you get a couple level lead and some items, he'll own face for a long time. Pair him up vs a late game hero like SW/zephyr/sb, etc, and he just doesn't have the capability to take any of them on 1 v 1 without help.

And I don't see where my level has anything to do with posting. Is there a minimum MMR rating you have to achieve before you can offer your opinion on balance? I know at my level of play, carry SB, scout, and Hammer are really common already, and quite annoying to deal with pre-patch. So I post about it, because I feel they'll be even harder to deal with now. You sit on your high horse playing over 9000 MMR games where carry hammer is terrible, and I'll sit on mine.


What ^^

Zephyr and SW are both extremely terrible late game 1v1 carries.

Zephyr is a strong carry due to his farming and AoE abilities, meaning he can get items fast and deals a lot of damage to multiple heroes.

Same thing with SW, its his ability to deal damage to everyone and tank/transfer back a lot of damage that makes him a strong carry.

They are both extremely bad at 1v1 late game, and any magebane with the same farm would win this, no questions asked.

You are correct though, that magebane doesnt have the best scaling abilities, What he has going for him is his lower attack speed.

He obviously cant out 1v1 late game SB /tdl/scout though


And seriously, who would level hammers AoE...its just a cool buff for the few that did.


I know you're not talking about Sand Wraith, even though it REALLY SOUNDS LIKE you're talking about Sand Wraith. Because if you're talking about Sand Wraith...... wtf?

What i was saying. I HATE late-game sand wraith, he is unkillable if he has good items. He's the only hero I know of that could literally afk chill in the middle of a team fight, randomly hit r in the middle of it, and destroy people.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 30 2011 19:15 GMT
#31239
On October 01 2011 03:59 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 03:46 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2011 03:13 TurpinOS wrote:
On October 01 2011 02:37 Sm3agol wrote:
On September 30 2011 23:49 Ethenielle wrote:
A couple of pages before Smeagol tells us Magebane isn't really a hard carry because he scales so badly.

And now you just had to share your thoughts on the balance of the game with us. Hammerstorm? Overpowered? Scout? Swiftblade? I mean I know you are not a very good player and that is okay, but maybe keep this in mind yourself and refrain from commenting on balance?

I don't think I said he wasn't a hard carry, or didn't mean that, more that he doesn't scale well into super late-game. I've carried with him in quite a few games, and if you get a couple level lead and some items, he'll own face for a long time. Pair him up vs a late game hero like SW/zephyr/sb, etc, and he just doesn't have the capability to take any of them on 1 v 1 without help.

And I don't see where my level has anything to do with posting. Is there a minimum MMR rating you have to achieve before you can offer your opinion on balance? I know at my level of play, carry SB, scout, and Hammer are really common already, and quite annoying to deal with pre-patch. So I post about it, because I feel they'll be even harder to deal with now. You sit on your high horse playing over 9000 MMR games where carry hammer is terrible, and I'll sit on mine.


What ^^

Zephyr and SW are both extremely terrible late game 1v1 carries.

Zephyr is a strong carry due to his farming and AoE abilities, meaning he can get items fast and deals a lot of damage to multiple heroes.

Same thing with SW, its his ability to deal damage to everyone and tank/transfer back a lot of damage that makes him a strong carry.

They are both extremely bad at 1v1 late game, and any magebane with the same farm would win this, no questions asked.

You are correct though, that magebane doesnt have the best scaling abilities, What he has going for him is his lower attack speed.

He obviously cant out 1v1 late game SB /tdl/scout though


And seriously, who would level hammers AoE...its just a cool buff for the few that did.


I know you're not talking about Sand Wraith, even though it REALLY SOUNDS LIKE you're talking about Sand Wraith. Because if you're talking about Sand Wraith...... wtf?

What i was saying. I HATE late-game sand wraith, he is unkillable if he has good items. He's the only hero I know of that could literally afk chill in the middle of a team fight, randomly hit r in the middle of it, and destroy people.


No, you have the right of it. I'm responding to TurpinOS. SW a horrible late game carry? What game is he playing?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factorο»Ώ/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
September 30 2011 21:59 GMT
#31240
you are selectively ignoring the part where he said "1v1"
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