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On August 23 2011 12:24 GhostKorean wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 08:42 JeeJee wrote:On August 23 2011 08:39 BurningSera wrote: ^chicken is 200g in dota >_< and if priority list was implemented i wont touch hon again (for real). your hero should always attack the closest enemy unit near you (unless there is a bug/pathing problem). i believe the tower of hon/dota works the same??? except hon towers switch target at a ridiculous speed. huh? notsureifsrs. chicken is 170g since like 20 patches ago, and there is a priority list for every ai in every game, that's how this works. Computers aren't magic. I just want to know what the list is. The dota one isn't the same as the hon one, for sure, because applying my hon knowledge to dota, I am sometimes surprised by the target choice. I'm never surprised in hon. What the hell chicken was 170 gold??????????????? Whaaaaat the heeeeeeeeellll?????
ohgod i totally get mixed up now -_- switching between dota and hon really fcked up my mind.
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I used to play dota about 2 years ago for like 6 years and now im trying to start hon.
Any tips on re-learning what heros look like? or how to not get disconnects on my team every game? or how to not be vs premade teams with tags during my 2nd game of hon...
really frustrated with the game now...
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unverified matches are hell, you have my sympathies
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1. Nope, just practise. Maybe random a lot, playing a hero is definitely that fastest way to learn its skills. 2. Will happen a lot while you're playing un-verified matches and at low levels of MMR. Obviously there's equal chance of this happening on both teams and a better chance that it's the other team if you yourself don't leave. 3. As far as I know premades are nearly always put against other premades. If there's 3 in the same clan on the other team, there's probably 3 playing together on your team as well, but they might not be in the same clan.
Bonus tip - since it's gone f2p there are a huge amount of people smurfing. I think my smurf is up to 10 wins 0 losses solo queueing... This is unavoidable now with the current f2p system. The point is don't ever expect games to be even or fair.
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On August 24 2011 12:59 xZiGGY wrote: unverified matches are hell, you have my sympathies what happens after you are "verified?"
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On August 24 2011 18:57 TheGreenMachine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 12:59 xZiGGY wrote: unverified matches are hell, you have my sympathies what happens after you are "verified?" You stop running into soulstealers (nevermore) like this once you get to level 5 and bust out into Verified.
WHAT IS IT WITH SS PLAYERS IN THIS BRACKET? I don't even geeeeet itttttt. @___@
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wow... impressive Soul Stealer
Yeah, then you'll run into people like me, ANGRY!
Especially angry at TLers.
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longdd and zippo on DK
i hope the chinese scene keeps these lineups for a while, i really like the new shuffle lineups on paper (no allstar BS except for iG)
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On August 25 2011 04:07 rabidch wrote: longdd and zippo on DK
i hope the chinese scene keeps these lineups for a while, i really like the new shuffle lineups on paper (no allstar BS except for iG)
too bad its me, IG.国士无双/Lanm, also, tyloo exploded, so did the original IG LUL IG.Y of the original LGD-ZMSJ+Lanm should be pretty strong , the new DK will hopefully work decently and still waiting on LGD.Yaphets
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On August 25 2011 07:47 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 04:07 rabidch wrote: longdd and zippo on DK
i hope the chinese scene keeps these lineups for a while, i really like the new shuffle lineups on paper (no allstar BS except for iG) too bad its me, IG.国士无双/Lanm, also, tyloo exploded, so did the original IG LUL IG.Y of the original LGD-ZMSJ+Lanm should be pretty strong , the new DK will hopefully work decently and still waiting on LGD.Yaphets iG.Z still pretty allstar
somebody will fill in the voids for tyloo and nv.cn, theres still a lot of players
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fun little comic is putting it lightly, anyone else look at that ROFL
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On August 25 2011 18:09 ahswtini wrote: Nice comic -_-
ya..
scared the shit outta me.
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fun little comic is putting it lightly, anyone else look at that ROFL
In the library. Pretty sure the guy sitting next to me thinks I'm crazy now.
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On August 25 2011 18:46 buckbo1604 wrote:ya.. scared the shit outta me. yep as soon as I saw it... WHERES THE FUCKING CLOSE BUTTON o.o
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On August 23 2011 08:59 BurningSera wrote:maybe many people didnt really play support and understand the role very well  Buying item on a support is completely different from buying on a carry. The item system provides challenges to carry/support player and it is a very important part in the balance. If you think support is for noobs, carry is for good player, you are so wrong. Well cant blame people to think that because most pubbies play support in a wrong or half-ass way and people looking at that carry player DOUBLE kill, RAMPAGE and thinks that he won the game for the team. The carry's success IS a result of support's success. Nothing feels better than owning so hard as a support that your carry can farm for the first 25 mins of the game untouched, and then use that farm to finish the game handily. that said, i rarely see good carry player appreciates their support nowadays  i miss my old clan.
/agreed
It's hard to have to afford - a bracer or two so you don't die in 2 seconds - all the wards on your team while every other player wants - you to get no farm because you're "just a support" - you to not last hit at all because "why do you need gold" then they complain about - "wow stop feeding" and - "why there no wards here? wtf"
the key is I think to make your $ from assists and farm every once in a while. You still need gold/exp, but you have to ration it. Especially if u play venge (w/e its called in hon) - u'll lane for like 1/3 ur game so u never have exp/gold especially since people cry since they want the kills since they're "the carry".
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i dunno if its just me but does anyone find keeper hugely imba? I mean he has -insane farm power -insane push power -insane AOE ult -high tankability -an escape mechanism (invisibility) -high movement speed
i find it too much to deal with on one hero
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On August 25 2011 22:58 Antimage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 08:59 BurningSera wrote:maybe many people didnt really play support and understand the role very well  Buying item on a support is completely different from buying on a carry. The item system provides challenges to carry/support player and it is a very important part in the balance. If you think support is for noobs, carry is for good player, you are so wrong. Well cant blame people to think that because most pubbies play support in a wrong or half-ass way and people looking at that carry player DOUBLE kill, RAMPAGE and thinks that he won the game for the team. The carry's success IS a result of support's success. Nothing feels better than owning so hard as a support that your carry can farm for the first 25 mins of the game untouched, and then use that farm to finish the game handily. that said, i rarely see good carry player appreciates their support nowadays  i miss my old clan. /agreed It's hard to have to afford - a bracer or two so you don't die in 2 seconds - all the wards on your team while every other player wants - you to get no farm because you're "just a support" - you to not last hit at all because "why do you need gold" then they complain about - "wow stop feeding" and - "why there no wards here? wtf" the key is I think to make your $ from assists and farm every once in a while. You still need gold/exp, but you have to ration it. Especially if u play venge (w/e its called in hon) - u'll lane for like 1/3 ur game so u never have exp/gold especially since people cry since they want the kills since they're "the carry".
I play support quite often and never have problems with getting some items along with wards/tps and being at team fights. Many times I am equal level to the opposing teams highest level (or right behind him) while supporting. Generally you should stay within the level average of the opposing team for most of the game. Once you hit 16 as a support though your level matters less since you have all of your spells. Once you start to focus on not dieing as a support, you find that you have a lot more gold than just wards/tps.
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