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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 03:10:31
May 30 2011 03:10 GMT
#26321
I never realized how important keeping your level 1 towers is until yesterday. omg its like hey theres action in mid BUT YOU CANT FUCKING PORT THERE
also, are they chat servers down for anyone else?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 30 2011 03:14 GMT
#26322
On May 30 2011 12:10 GhostKorean wrote:
I never realized how important keeping your level 1 towers is until yesterday. omg its like hey theres action in mid BUT YOU CANT FUCKING PORT THERE
also, are they chat servers down for anyone else?


DotA's entire strategy landscape is tuned/optimized to this concept, regardless of the version tool; it's kind of funny because the penalties for pushing their towers and failing to capitalize on that (either due to line-ups or mistakes) is pretty much gg. Yet you rarely see that aspect outside of straight sell-out push line ups.
Get it by your hands...
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 30 2011 03:26 GMT
#26323
On May 30 2011 12:14 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 12:10 GhostKorean wrote:
I never realized how important keeping your level 1 towers is until yesterday. omg its like hey theres action in mid BUT YOU CANT FUCKING PORT THERE
also, are they chat servers down for anyone else?


DotA's entire strategy landscape is tuned/optimized to this concept, regardless of the version tool; it's kind of funny because the penalties for pushing their towers and failing to capitalize on that (either due to line-ups or mistakes) is pretty much gg. Yet you rarely see that aspect outside of straight sell-out push line ups.

I saw a gank/roam into push strat from some chinese team a while back.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
May 30 2011 03:29 GMT
#26324
On May 30 2011 12:14 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 12:10 GhostKorean wrote:
I never realized how important keeping your level 1 towers is until yesterday. omg its like hey theres action in mid BUT YOU CANT FUCKING PORT THERE
also, are they chat servers down for anyone else?


DotA's entire strategy landscape is tuned/optimized to this concept, regardless of the version tool; it's kind of funny because the penalties for pushing their towers and failing to capitalize on that (either due to line-ups or mistakes) is pretty much gg. Yet you rarely see that aspect outside of straight sell-out push line ups.

Why is that so? I really can't think of a reason why
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 03:42:48
May 30 2011 03:40 GMT
#26325
On May 30 2011 12:29 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 12:14 Judicator wrote:
On May 30 2011 12:10 GhostKorean wrote:
I never realized how important keeping your level 1 towers is until yesterday. omg its like hey theres action in mid BUT YOU CANT FUCKING PORT THERE
also, are they chat servers down for anyone else?


DotA's entire strategy landscape is tuned/optimized to this concept, regardless of the version tool; it's kind of funny because the penalties for pushing their towers and failing to capitalize on that (either due to line-ups or mistakes) is pretty much gg. Yet you rarely see that aspect outside of straight sell-out push line ups.

Why is that so? I really can't think of a reason why

its not insta-gg (mistakes can still be made) but its pretty fail to not do it... aside from the gold there is a huge aspect of map control, plus "momentum"


On May 30 2011 12:26 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 12:14 Judicator wrote:
On May 30 2011 12:10 GhostKorean wrote:
I never realized how important keeping your level 1 towers is until yesterday. omg its like hey theres action in mid BUT YOU CANT FUCKING PORT THERE
also, are they chat servers down for anyone else?


DotA's entire strategy landscape is tuned/optimized to this concept, regardless of the version tool; it's kind of funny because the penalties for pushing their towers and failing to capitalize on that (either due to line-ups or mistakes) is pretty much gg. Yet you rarely see that aspect outside of straight sell-out push line ups.

I saw a gank/roam into push strat from some chinese team a while back.

i dont even know if that can be considered a strat, it was probably how chinese played dota back then.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 03:52:04
May 30 2011 03:46 GMT
#26326
On May 30 2011 12:29 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 12:14 Judicator wrote:
On May 30 2011 12:10 GhostKorean wrote:
I never realized how important keeping your level 1 towers is until yesterday. omg its like hey theres action in mid BUT YOU CANT FUCKING PORT THERE
also, are they chat servers down for anyone else?


DotA's entire strategy landscape is tuned/optimized to this concept, regardless of the version tool; it's kind of funny because the penalties for pushing their towers and failing to capitalize on that (either due to line-ups or mistakes) is pretty much gg. Yet you rarely see that aspect outside of straight sell-out push line ups.

Why is that so? I really can't think of a reason why


Because if they stabilize their map, they have the advantage of the creep wave being pushed back to them. It's over pushing, just how like you're not suppose to spam your skills to farm unless you need the wave cleared out then and there. Then they can hit a timing on your towers and the subsequent gold can push them into a key item, like a Radiance or a Blink Dagger. The classic overpushing scenario where they just funnel their incoming farm all into their carry and where they can cover him easily.

What really amazes me is that the Russians and Ukrainians run a very typical 3-1-1 line up based on killing the tower that their hard carry is in and let their player just manage the creep wave positioning with no fear of a port in as well as the good spot for hard counter-ganks via their own TPs. Like I watched Light on his Morph just keep the creep wave at about the same place for a good number of creep waves. They caught so many teams with that strategy where their Spectre hits a fair timing (good timing, but not impossible) on his Radiance right when the other team seems to stabilize and its just back breaking cause you're suddenly down so many towers and can't really get ahead.

Edit:

TLDR version, when they stop giving a shit about what you can do with that map advantage, as in once wards turn into counter-gank opportunities and not runaway opportunities, you better hope you still have enough of an advantage from early-mid to carry you into end game.
Get it by your hands...
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
May 30 2011 06:00 GMT
#26327
I was thinking about that but it doesn't seem hard to control your creep wave to your side of the map especially since you have map control w/ the level 1 towers while they can't go to theirs
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
May 30 2011 06:50 GMT
#26328
Anyone know of any good DotA casting sites? It's been quite awhile since I've last visited any and most have switched to HoN/LoL or are just no longer updated. Also very interested in any live streams that are active.
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
May 30 2011 07:18 GMT
#26329
Uh oh i got suspended

GM Explanation: Intentionally trolling/griefing your own team with scout, on multiple occasions
SCV good to go sir
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
May 30 2011 07:34 GMT
#26330
naugty boy ;o shoula rolled nighthound
Meh.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 30 2011 07:38 GMT
#26331
On May 30 2011 15:50 ICarrotU wrote:
Anyone know of any good DotA casting sites? It's been quite awhile since I've last visited any and most have switched to HoN/LoL or are just no longer updated. Also very interested in any live streams that are active.

no not really. the only live streams i sometimes watch are late night (later than starcraft) chinese streams and not much is being played atm.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
May 30 2011 09:02 GMT
#26332
When someone picks Silhouette...what manner of quitting the game do you usually use?

I prefer to use that game to jerk off. (mind you this starts to hurt fast because EVERY AP GAME HAS SOMEONE SPAM SILHOUETTE INSTANTLY)

No she is not fine how she is. If you think so, then pull your head out of your ass. /endrant
Let them say we lived in the time of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. Let them say we lived in the time of Nal_rA, Dreamer of Protoss. Let them say we lived in the time of Savior, Master of the Zerg.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 30 2011 17:17 GMT
#26333
On May 30 2011 18:02 Khaymus wrote:
When someone picks Silhouette...what manner of quitting the game do you usually use?

I prefer to use that game to jerk off. (mind you this starts to hurt fast because EVERY AP GAME HAS SOMEONE SPAM SILHOUETTE INSTANTLY)

No she is not fine how she is. If you think so, then pull your head out of your ass. /endrant


It's ok man she's basically a 600 range ursa (swipes + overpower) except her other 2 skills give her a quasi-blink, a long range stun, nuke and teleport. Instead of pbaoe slow and life leech.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Wrath 2.1
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany880 Posts
May 30 2011 17:26 GMT
#26334
if she couldn't build a geometers silhouette would be ok... but having 3 illusions at all time available while one does 100% damage is too much =/
The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
May 30 2011 19:38 GMT
#26335
quit crying and play bp
BigGeoffrey
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
May 30 2011 19:44 GMT
#26336
Come watch me stream. ~1850 atm. Justin.tv/biggeoffrey
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 20:44:58
May 30 2011 20:40 GMT
#26337
^^^ made an account so he can self promote his stream lol ^_^
Can you add into the OP that anyone can join the clan you dont need to try out or anything just pm me or another officer for an invite
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 30 2011 20:45 GMT
#26338
On May 31 2011 04:44 BigGeoffrey wrote:
Come watch me stream. ~1850 atm. Justin.tv/biggeoffrey


lol nice personal ad. why would we watch you over testie or any of the other good players?
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
May 30 2011 20:59 GMT
#26339
Id rather watch his stream over testies tbh, testie only plays with 1600/1700 baddies ;( But yeah if I watch hon streams its proplayer inhouses or nothing.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 21:49:38
May 30 2011 21:48 GMT
#26340
On May 31 2011 05:45 BlueRoyaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 04:44 BigGeoffrey wrote:
Come watch me stream. ~1850 atm. Justin.tv/biggeoffrey


lol nice personal ad. why would we watch you over testie or any of the other good players?


☑ Post is related to HoN or DotA
☑ Not low-level noise
☑ Contributive

Conclusion: doesn't matter that it's a "personal ad" especially considering that he makes pennies if he does run ads lol
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