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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
May 29 2011 11:23 GMT
#26301
On May 29 2011 08:20 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 07:14 Nitrogen wrote:
i know what defines the metagame.

the metametagame. think about it.

can anybody really think about the metametagame. think about it


easy, just metathink about the metametagame and it comes naturally
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 29 2011 11:32 GMT
#26302
Storm spirit
- Bottle
- Treads (int)
- Nulls x2
- Orchid Malevolence

Good build?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
May 29 2011 11:45 GMT
#26303
On May 29 2011 20:32 Benjef wrote:
Storm spirit
- Bottle
- Treads (int)
- Nulls x2
- Orchid Malevolence

Good build?

depends what lineup you are against. if they focus you you die.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 29 2011 12:07 GMT
#26304
On May 29 2011 20:32 Benjef wrote:
Storm spirit
- Bottle
- Treads (int)
- Nulls x2
- Orchid Malevolence

Good build?

Guinsoo > Orchid for DotA Storm. Sometimes I try it when I get really fast farm but when playing Storm you need to have a disables or something to shake off disables as your first main item and Orchid is too soft. Sometimes you'll face a lineup (ie in pubs) that skimps out on disables where it's more viable but overall it's no more than an ok item for Storm. Hell sometimes when I get overfarmed early in pubs I get a Radiance looool to abuse the farm since I'm a rice farmer in my DotA heart. Slightly different in HoN however where I believe Hellflower is more viable.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
May 29 2011 12:35 GMT
#26305
3rd time HoN servers have been down in a week...
-_-; srsly?
('''(G_G/'''')
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 29 2011 12:44 GMT
#26306
Thanks for the advice, anyone know what happened to dotastrategy.com I can't access it
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 29 2011 14:43 GMT
#26307
unable to start MM again yay

Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 29 2011 14:52 GMT
#26308
On May 29 2011 20:32 Benjef wrote:
Storm spirit
- Bottle
- Treads (int)
- Nulls x2
- Orchid Malevolence

Good build?


-Stats items
-Boots+bottle+nulls+treads.
-Linken.
-Guinsoo.

Is a really good pub build cos you will never get enough co-ordinated focus on you to die once you have linkens and it gives nice regen+stats.

In serious games you usually go for straight hex or bkb first.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 29 2011 18:07 GMT
#26309
On May 29 2011 23:52 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 20:32 Benjef wrote:
Storm spirit
- Bottle
- Treads (int)
- Nulls x2
- Orchid Malevolence

Good build?


-Stats items
-Boots+bottle+nulls+treads.
-Linken.
-Guinsoo.

Is a really good pub build cos you will never get enough co-ordinated focus on you to die once you have linkens and it gives nice regen+stats.

In serious games you usually go for straight hex or bkb first.

What consists of stat items because I always see people say it?

usually on game start I go for, Tangos, healing salve, 2 tree branches, mantle/magic stick and mana regen thing ( the 100 mana one)
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
May 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#26310
On May 30 2011 03:07 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 23:52 Goshawk. wrote:
On May 29 2011 20:32 Benjef wrote:
Storm spirit
- Bottle
- Treads (int)
- Nulls x2
- Orchid Malevolence

Good build?


-Stats items
-Boots+bottle+nulls+treads.
-Linken.
-Guinsoo.

Is a really good pub build cos you will never get enough co-ordinated focus on you to die once you have linkens and it gives nice regen+stats.

In serious games you usually go for straight hex or bkb first.

What consists of stat items because I always see people say it?


early game stuff that buffs your stats... branches, bracer/null/wraith band parts.
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 18:16:38
May 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#26311
It depends from game to game as always.
Stick is super situational, in most pubs its not worth delaying other items over.
Only get linkens if you're against a lineup that can (and knows how to) punish you without one (wr, doom, lion, rhasta, bane, etc).
Why get a clarity? The only point where clarity is good is at the 6th-10th min mark'ish if you've missed out on a rune.
Orchid is owned by BKB and isn't quite as universal as guinsoo, but if you have a great start it can be a really fun item to get fast and just solo stomp anyone in sight.
Start with +6/3/3 courier build or +8/2/2 if team courier, don't complete the nulls unless you get ganked/have a shitty start or if you're stalling midgame trying to save up for ult orb/mystic and feel you can't do enough with what you have.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
May 29 2011 22:52 GMT
#26312
why do people keep recommending runed axe on chronos? I usually go ep / shrunken / savage. :/
People say if you get a runed you can farm faster, as true as I'm sure that might be you're sacrificing 15+ minutes of farm for it. (atleast in pubs EP seems like a good farming item choice on chronos ;/ )
Meh.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
May 30 2011 00:02 GMT
#26313
It's for that once in a blue moon awesomeness of getting a triple kill under bubble on a bunch of clumping noobs.
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
May 30 2011 00:07 GMT
#26314
On May 30 2011 07:52 xZiGGY wrote:
why do people keep recommending runed axe on chronos? I usually go ep / shrunken / savage. :/
People say if you get a runed you can farm faster, as true as I'm sure that might be you're sacrificing 15+ minutes of farm for it. (atleast in pubs EP seems like a good farming item choice on chronos ;/ )


Because it's the safe option. Many a mediocre "carry" player fail as soon as the things don't roll their way midgame. One or two mistakes/deaths and you're so far behind in items that unless your team is good the game is lost.
EP/MoM is rather imbalanced im terms of risk/reward overall, its only really "viable" on chronos/void due to the ulti. Lifesteal is only good for farming when you have shitty lanes/poor map control during midgame forcing you to do half or more of your farming in the jungle. And even then, combining evade with fairly decent damage and the regen of runed/bfury-components is usually sufficient for the task. The core of playing a "carry" hero is to keep elevating the power of your hero relative to the other heroes throughout the game. EP/MoM and such fragile builds offer a somewhat relatively insignificant boost in power for midgame compared to the risk.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
May 30 2011 00:18 GMT
#26315
so you can run around farming lanes and popping back into jungle and you blink away from ganks going trolololo
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 30 2011 00:38 GMT
#26316
us west servers going under maintenance? o.o
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 30 2011 01:04 GMT
#26317
Chronos is pretty rare. I heard void is some ridiculous amounts better, but I don't see void much either. Maybe i'm just blind or following the wrong tourneys (ie the random dota games I look at every 1-2 weeks)
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
May 30 2011 02:33 GMT
#26318
Just got into a game against a TL team and one of our teammates got terminated by HON, for unknown reasons.

This happened in the first 5 seconds, TL team refused to remake, we left. I know that 90% of the TL clan doesn't read these forums but if you're a member of that team who wouldn't remake for us, then fuck you.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 30 2011 02:44 GMT
#26319
On May 30 2011 10:04 Nevuk wrote:
Chronos is pretty rare. I heard void is some ridiculous amounts better, but I don't see void much either. Maybe i'm just blind or following the wrong tourneys (ie the random dota games I look at every 1-2 weeks)

recent updates buffed him a lot and also melee heroes were slightly buffed, only time leap is stronger than time walk, the other buffs are marginal, chronos is not that much better. overall 6.72 is wacky and will take some time to ruffle out all the balance changes so the version is not used in competitive dota atm.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 02:59:45
May 30 2011 02:58 GMT
#26320
There's no spot for him right now in DotA, Void is a dead pick that requires you to pick around for him and the popular strategies right now are all mid game timings to create massive space and provide map control by tower pushing.

Morph/Lancer/SF/Spectre/etc. all hit those timings better than Void does and doesn't sack too much in a tri-lane; that being said, the only team that I have seen Void used was M5 and using him as an Aghs semi-carry than a true hard carry, aka only pushing that farm in the tri-lane for the Scepter for midgame timing shennigans.

Plus with the recent changes to Seer, the Scepter changes specifically, now there's even less reason to use Void.
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