[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1283

On May 12 2011 12:06 gosublade wrote:


Tps are actually very expensive and often times not at all cost effective. Wards are way too cheap tho. It shouldn't be that in every pro game wards are almost always bought out. They should be a reactive item that are worth situationally rather than necessity in every game.

On May 12 2011 12:33 5-s wrote:

I don't even know what you mean by this, but if you're playing in a competitive game or clanwar and you don't have a tp on you past the 5 minutes mark you will get flamed.

On May 12 2011 12:45 gosublade wrote:


Competitive teammates don't flame. And unless you are the best tp manager in the world, the times you use tps inefficiently weighs out the times you don't.

On May 12 2011 12:45 gosublade wrote:


Competitive teammates don't flame. And unless you are the best tp manager in the world, the times you use tps inefficiently weighs out the times you don't.

On May 12 2011 13:00 don_kyuhote wrote:
TP is worthless item for its expensive cost.
Just rush Boots of Travel already.
Or even better, just play Furion.
You can even cancel teleport without wasting cooldown!

On May 12 2011 13:10 JeeJee wrote:


yeah man
think about it, every time you TP with travels, they get cheaper by 135. let's say you TP every other minute (and otherwise would have bought standard ~1500gp boots) that means they'll pay for themselves in only 18 minutes!
anything after that is pure profit
now add midas which also pays for itself and starts making pure profit, and you're laughing all the way to the bank. new build? 6 min midas into 8 min travels into 20 minute destruction with 4 t4 items and enough gold for 2 buybacks.
awww yeah.

On May 12 2011 12:09 Troopi wrote:
One week ago I decided to play some HoN again. Played it very intensively since the beta but paused cus of one reason. May it be that the HoN community is the worst of every community which exists in the interwebz? The game is great and fun, but the people playing it destroy it. Everybody thinks hes the best and bad manners everywhere. People destroying good games by goin afk/feeding etc. and so on. It makes me so angry that I decided to uninstall this shit again. Its just not worth playing this game cus of the high number of dirtbags -.-

On May 12 2011 13:46 Mikey wrote:
oh man.. i just read somebody saying 'tps are a bad item' LOL

awkward... embarrassing ... disappointing...

On May 12 2011 13:54 don_kyuhote wrote:

After years of playing Dota, I have learned many things.
1. tps are bad. (gosublade)
2. Crystal maiden is definitely a late gamer. (Reaper117)
3. If you're Viper and you're losing mid to SF, you rush Radiance. (Travitus)

On May 12 2011 12:45 gosublade wrote:


Competitive teammates don't flame. And unless you are the best tp manager in the world, the times you use tps inefficiently weighs out the times you don't.

On May 12 2011 12:21 Sm3agol wrote:
Another thing......wards....when should I get them, and what exactly do they do? I've never seen them used in any games I've been in.

And what should I get with my first money as a beastwood type player(which I seem to be the best at).

On May 12 2011 12:09 Troopi wrote:
One week ago I decided to play some HoN again. Played it very intensively since the beta but paused cus of one reason. May it be that the HoN community is the worst of every community which exists in the interwebz? The game is great and fun, but the people playing it destroy it. Everybody thinks hes the best and bad manners everywhere. People destroying good games by goin afk/feeding etc. and so on. It makes me so angry that I decided to uninstall this shit again. Its just not worth playing this game cus of the high number of dirtbags -.-

On May 12 2011 12:09 Troopi wrote:
One week ago I decided to play some HoN again. Played it very intensively since the beta but paused cus of one reason. May it be that the HoN community is the worst of every community which exists in the interwebz? The game is great and fun, but the people playing it destroy it. Everybody thinks hes the best and bad manners everywhere. People destroying good games by goin afk/feeding etc. and so on. It makes me so angry that I decided to uninstall this shit again. Its just not worth playing this game cus of the high number of dirtbags -.-

On May 12 2011 16:18 Gandalf wrote:
My experience with the HoN community has been somewhat different. I started HoN as an utter newb who had played maybe 20 games of Dota and roughly 60 of LoL, but I've only very rarely met someone who was extremely ill mannered. I know I've made a ton of mistakes, I still do, and I've lost my team games, but I haven't experienced the kind of rage everyone accuses the HoN community of. Strange. I've always made it a point to follow advice though, I don't get defensive or argue when an obviously superior player exposes flaws in my game and directs me to do something.

On May 12 2011 14:44 JeeJee wrote:


wards (yellow) give vision around themselves for 6 minutes. they provide a very real but indirect benefit. ever been in a lane and then suddenly a hero you're not expecting comes out of nowhere and frags you? in the process, you lose tons of gold, experience from not being near the creeps while dead, 135g for tp (unless you're gosublade), as well as giving the other team gold, experience, and flow.
but a single 100g ward can prevent that by giving you vision so that heroes can't "come out of nowhere" because that "nowhere" will be lit up for you.

they also help you know where the rune is (random spawn every even minute in one of 2 locations), and so on, depending on their location. it's kind of like a maphack, absolutely awesome item.

your initial money is generally to augment your hero in his/her quest in the lane. as a flint, you're looking to do 2 things early on: 1) not die 2) get gold/experience. a main thing that helps with that is making your hero stronger, through the use of cheap +stat items. also, you want to stay in the lane as long as you can for reason (2), so you generally grab some regen items.

depending on personal preference, lanes, and so on, item builds could be
2x +3agi items, 2x branches, tree eaters and a potion (2*150 + 2*53 + 90 +100 = 596g)
armor ring, 4x branches, 2x tree eaters (175+4*53+2*90 = 567g)

among many others. the basic idea is they give you stats to make your hero stronger, and regen to make your hero stay in lane comfortably. you also in general want to have no empty item slots, because item slots are very precious. for example, a branch gives +1 to all stats for only 53gold, whereas the orb gives +10 to all stats for 2100! 10 branches would be 530 so you're paying a 1570gold premium just for the fact that it all fits in one slot (since obviously you can't carry 10 branches)