[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1195

On March 12 2011 18:46 Wala.Revolution wrote:
What happened to Korean Dota?

If you want to borrow an account, I'll lend you one.

On March 12 2011 01:21 JeeJee wrote:
first of all, you say that you attack faster when you orbwalk. just to point that out again, because of how very wrong that is. and just to point that out one more time, i'm referring to the quote (paraphrased, cba) "there seems to be no benefit in orbwalking in hon, you attack just as fast if you right click"

the benefit of orbwalking isn't attacking faster, it's to interrupt the backswing of any animation. this isn't even restricted to orbs, and is otherwise known as animation cancelling
knowing this, it follows that we look up the cast time + backswing of the relevant spells (frost arrow and web shot). this has been kindly done for us by Glull and shows that perfect animation cancelling on arachna is much more effective due to the earlier damage point (the point at which you can interrupt the animation and still have the cast go through) and a much longer backswing (useless time).
so gtfo.

No orb walking - like take viper vs arachna, to maximise vipers poison shot you hit the hot key click the hero then move towards them to help chase then repeat. To maximise arachna you right click the hero and right click web shot.

On March 12 2011 19:42 Az0r_au wrote:I never said it makes you attack faster you interpreted *to maximise poison shot* as attack faster.

Glull pointed out I was wrong and that the effect I was describing is simply web shot lasting 3s vs only .7s on drow.

viper vs arachna, to maximise vipers poison shot you hit the hot key click the hero then move towards them to help chase then repeat. To maximise arachna you right click the hero and right click web shot.

On March 12 2011 19:42 Az0r_au wrote:




I never said it makes you attack faster you interpreted *to maximise poison shot* as attack faster.

Glull pointed out I was wrong and that the effect I was describing is simply web shot lasting 3s vs only .7s on drow.

I'm not bad (im not good either) just frustrated and jaded. I've played >25 games and im at 1750mmr. Orb walking doesnt seem to add any benefit in HON is what I should have said (I may be doing it wrong but if its the same as dota then im doing it right), you attack just as fast by right clicking than by manualy doing it. I cant speak to anything above 1800mmr but so far it seems PB are picked ALOT more than in Dota. I remember looking at the item use stats on getdota.com and PB was like >5%.

On March 13 2011 04:21 Judicator wrote:
Look JeeJee, some kids just need to be left behind, if the fat kid is stumbling to the choppa, you let him stumble, don't try to help, it's not worth the time or energy or the potential chance of you suddenly becoming as thickheaded as he is.

Edit:

Rabid, what the fuck happened to DTS's line-up?

On March 12 2011 23:12 Glull wrote:
i didnt post the numbers here so you could ignore them and post random numbers of your own.
3 seconds on arachna
1,5 seconds on drow for heroes
7 seconds on drow for creeps

-_-

On March 13 2011 12:13 Entertaining wrote:
i hear u can only double stack camps now, havnt tried it to know if its true or not but if it is anyone know why they would make that change? trying to get non AOE carries back into the farm game? chronos hasnt been used for ages from what i can see.

On March 13 2011 14:03 GhostKorean wrote:

You can only triple stack camps
I think it's because when they changed it everything was a giant carry turtle fest and they tried to nerf testie because he was nonuple stacking ancients and neuts. Think if they reverted the change it wouldn't make such a huge difference