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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
March 12 2011 09:42 GMT
#23881
anybody online on HoN?

I'm on a trial account. Play some pubs with me!

sup`Heen
('''(G_G/'''')
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7583 Posts
March 12 2011 09:46 GMT
#23882
What happened to Korean Dota?

If you want to borrow an account, I'll lend you one.
Stuck.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 10:02:15
March 12 2011 09:49 GMT
#23883
On March 12 2011 18:46 Wala.Revolution wrote:
What happened to Korean Dota?

If you want to borrow an account, I'll lend you one.

was there ever actually korean dota...?
think about it...

LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 10:06:11
March 12 2011 09:51 GMT
#23884
Dunno, but wasn't he and his friends participating in tourneys and stuff?

EDIT: wtf is that
Stuck.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
March 12 2011 10:35 GMT
#23885
I'm just playing for fun. There's no dota in korea. At least the competitive (which wasn't very competitive in the first place) side is completely dead. IH gets old after a while
('''(G_G/'''')
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
March 12 2011 10:42 GMT
#23886
On March 12 2011 01:21 JeeJee wrote:
first of all, you say that you attack faster when you orbwalk. just to point that out again, because of how very wrong that is. and just to point that out one more time, i'm referring to the quote (paraphrased, cba) "there seems to be no benefit in orbwalking in hon, you attack just as fast if you right click"

the benefit of orbwalking isn't attacking faster, it's to interrupt the backswing of any animation. this isn't even restricted to orbs, and is otherwise known as animation cancelling
knowing this, it follows that we look up the cast time + backswing of the relevant spells (frost arrow and web shot). this has been kindly done for us by Glull and shows that perfect animation cancelling on arachna is much more effective due to the earlier damage point (the point at which you can interrupt the animation and still have the cast go through) and a much longer backswing (useless time).
so gtfo.


No orb walking - like take viper vs arachna, to maximise vipers poison shot you hit the hot key click the hero then move towards them to help chase then repeat. To maximise arachna you right click the hero and right click web shot.


I never said it makes you attack faster you interpreted *to maximise poison shot* as attack faster.

Glull pointed out I was wrong and that the effect I was describing is simply web shot lasting 3s vs only .7s on drow.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 12 2011 12:53 GMT
#23887
On March 12 2011 19:42 Az0r_au wrote:I never said it makes you attack faster you interpreted *to maximise poison shot* as attack faster.

Glull pointed out I was wrong and that the effect I was describing is simply web shot lasting 3s vs only .7s on drow.

viper vs arachna, to maximise vipers poison shot you hit the hot key click the hero then move towards them to help chase then repeat. To maximise arachna you right click the hero and right click web shot.

wat "oh fuck i was wrong leme see if i can twist my argument maybe noone will notice"

btw it's 1.5s on arachna, 1.5s on drow, and 2s on viper
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
March 12 2011 14:12 GMT
#23888
i didnt post the numbers here so you could ignore them and post random numbers of your own.
3 seconds on arachna
1,5 seconds on drow for heroes
7 seconds on drow for creeps

-_-
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:47:15
March 12 2011 16:45 GMT
#23889
On March 12 2011 19:42 Az0r_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 01:21 JeeJee wrote:
first of all, you say that you attack faster when you orbwalk. just to point that out again, because of how very wrong that is. and just to point that out one more time, i'm referring to the quote (paraphrased, cba) "there seems to be no benefit in orbwalking in hon, you attack just as fast if you right click"

the benefit of orbwalking isn't attacking faster, it's to interrupt the backswing of any animation. this isn't even restricted to orbs, and is otherwise known as animation cancelling
knowing this, it follows that we look up the cast time + backswing of the relevant spells (frost arrow and web shot). this has been kindly done for us by Glull and shows that perfect animation cancelling on arachna is much more effective due to the earlier damage point (the point at which you can interrupt the animation and still have the cast go through) and a much longer backswing (useless time).
so gtfo.


Show nested quote +
No orb walking - like take viper vs arachna, to maximise vipers poison shot you hit the hot key click the hero then move towards them to help chase then repeat. To maximise arachna you right click the hero and right click web shot.


I never said it makes you attack faster you interpreted *to maximise poison shot* as attack faster.

Glull pointed out I was wrong and that the effect I was describing is simply web shot lasting 3s vs only .7s on drow.


sigh, yet another child left behind....

you said it makes you attack faster. i quote
I'm not bad (im not good either) just frustrated and jaded. I've played >25 games and im at 1750mmr. Orb walking doesnt seem to add any benefit in HON is what I should have said (I may be doing it wrong but if its the same as dota then im doing it right), you attack just as fast by right clicking than by manualy doing it. I cant speak to anything above 1800mmr but so far it seems PB are picked ALOT more than in Dota. I remember looking at the item use stats on getdota.com and PB was like >5%.



and for the record, the > sign doesn't mean what you think it means.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 19:23:13
March 12 2011 19:21 GMT
#23890
Look JeeJee, some kids just need to be left behind, if the fat kid is stumbling to the choppa, you let him stumble, don't try to help, it's not worth the time or energy or the potential chance of you suddenly becoming as thickheaded as he is.

Edit:

Rabid, what the fuck happened to DTS's line-up?
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 12 2011 20:56 GMT
#23891
On March 13 2011 04:21 Judicator wrote:
Look JeeJee, some kids just need to be left behind, if the fat kid is stumbling to the choppa, you let him stumble, don't try to help, it's not worth the time or energy or the potential chance of you suddenly becoming as thickheaded as he is.

Edit:

Rabid, what the fuck happened to DTS's line-up?

countries split
artstyle and dendi went to na'vi
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Forbs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States76 Posts
March 12 2011 21:12 GMT
#23892
http://www.own3d.tv/live/3716/Fivestream

Small SC2 tourney between North American DotA players, if anyone is interested. Live now.
alia
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States294 Posts
March 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#23893
Streaming DotA at the moment.

Also lost second round in Forbs' NADotA tournament. I played super poorly. ~_~
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 13 2011 03:07 GMT
#23894
On March 12 2011 23:12 Glull wrote:
i didnt post the numbers here so you could ignore them and post random numbers of your own.
3 seconds on arachna
1,5 seconds on drow for heroes
7 seconds on drow for creeps

-_-

my bad it is 3s on arachna, i'm pretty sure it used to last 1.5s though (ran out right before the 2s cd was up)
and i was talking to the other guy
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
March 13 2011 03:13 GMT
#23895
i hear u can only double stack camps now, havnt tried it to know if its true or not but if it is anyone know why they would make that change? trying to get non AOE carries back into the farm game? chronos hasnt been used for ages from what i can see.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
March 13 2011 05:03 GMT
#23896
On March 13 2011 12:13 Entertaining wrote:
i hear u can only double stack camps now, havnt tried it to know if its true or not but if it is anyone know why they would make that change? trying to get non AOE carries back into the farm game? chronos hasnt been used for ages from what i can see.

You can only triple stack camps
I think it's because when they changed it everything was a giant carry turtle fest and they tried to nerf testie because he was nonuple stacking ancients and neuts. Think if they reverted the change it wouldn't make such a huge difference
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 06:13:22
March 13 2011 05:14 GMT
#23897
On March 13 2011 14:03 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 12:13 Entertaining wrote:
i hear u can only double stack camps now, havnt tried it to know if its true or not but if it is anyone know why they would make that change? trying to get non AOE carries back into the farm game? chronos hasnt been used for ages from what i can see.

You can only triple stack camps
I think it's because when they changed it everything was a giant carry turtle fest and they tried to nerf testie because he was nonuple stacking ancients and neuts. Think if they reverted the change it wouldn't make such a huge difference

No, he's not talking about a year ago. In the most recent patch, creep camps can only be stacked twice rather than thrice. It isn't in the changelog and I don't think it was meant to be released yet. Still a work in progress, might change.

Edit: Yeah, to be more clear, you stack it once so the total is two groups (maximum).
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
March 13 2011 05:36 GMT
#23898
??? you mean you can only have 2 stacks? I interpreted it as you can stack it twice for a total of 3 stacks. I didn't know that, sorry
also, sc2 is soooooooo fun guys
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
March 13 2011 10:11 GMT
#23899
I believe that to only be able to double stack is a known and confirmed bug
Imagine a place where the Alps meet the Mediterranean, where you can pick autumn fruits in the morning, bathe in the Adriatic in the afternoon, and go night skiing in the evening…It’s Slovenia!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
March 13 2011 10:36 GMT
#23900
"The Void Talisman buff is awesome!" -- <3 Glacius
The original Bogus fan.
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