Whenever I play a game with these heroes on my side it's a 4v5 3v5 etc depending on how many slots been taken by them.
Madman is one of (if not the) best hard carries in the game. Just because a hero has a bad win % doesn't mean the hero is bad. It simply means people can't play him. If invoker was ported right now I bet his win rate would be something absurdly low like 40%
On March 13 2011 19:11 anomalopidae wrote: I believe that to only be able to double stack is a known and confirmed bug
It's not a bug. I already answered this question.
Edit: Also, you know what hero I rarely see? Fayde. http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/hero_use.php I see 70-75 way more often than her. Maybe it has to do with the level of game.
Whenever I play a game with these heroes on my side it's a 4v5 3v5 etc depending on how many slots been taken by them.
Pandamonium has a 41,9 % win , yet I think he's perfectly fine and very solid hero. Same with madman, In bp I ban him every time. The carry with the highest win % is pesti with 52,4 %. followed by zephyr with 51,7.
Seeing as these stats include everything from competitive to 1300 PSR players, I really wouldn't use them for much of anything. Jereziah and Plague Rider for example have a whopping 58% win rate (highest out of any of the heroes), but are they hardly picked or banned in any competitive game. Pubs just don't know how to play against them, but that doesn't necessarily make them good/bad heroes.
On March 13 2011 14:36 GhostKorean wrote: ??? you mean you can only have 2 stacks? I interpreted it as you can stack it twice for a total of 3 stacks. I didn't know that, sorry also, sc2 is soooooooo fun guys
agreed, win percentages posted there are cumulative, so it rarely indicates what heroes are "best"
considering high-level competitive play (the most reliable way of determining whether a hero is "good" or not) is but the smallest minority of players in HoN, it would only play a negligible part in the computation of these win percentages
When I read the line "Let's Play" I always think of something accessible, easy to get into. But HoN/DotA is far from that, lets do an anology/story. It will be devided into parts.
Part 1
Imagine yourself swimming in an ocean of piss, and from time to time you dive down to the bottom of the ocean to scoure the seabed for something usefull, thats about how pleasnt and thats how much you will understand of your first games. Then after you have done quite many dives down to the bottom of the ocean you finally find something, you pick it up, it has an ovalshaped top and a stick connected to the oval shape, you wonder what this is, you think of it for a while, and then suddenly you find land! At this point you'v been swimming in an ocean of piss that is the start of playing HoN/dota and the Racquet you'v found on the bottom of the ocean will represent the understanding of the gameplay.
Part 2
You'v got ahold of it, but you dont really know what to do with it, its frustrating, you have this awesome thing and you really dont know what to do. While you wander arround on the piece of dirt your on, and suddenly you find something red and round, you start to wonder, wonder if I can hit it with my raquet? You try, the red round thing gets smashed and falls to the ground as a red gooey thing, you find more red rounds things, lets call them tomates. After a while when you'v been hitting these tomates, you notice that the sun is gone and the clouds in the sky is gettin darker. Now you'v have had some experiance with the gameplay (raquet) but you dont really know what you'r doin, it might feel pointless, but atleast you'r gettin better at hittin those tomates and damn hard to.
Part 3
BEWARE - Shitstorm incoming. The sky is gettin darker, and suddenly small pieces of something brown, gooey and smelly drops down from the sky, you wonder what this is. But you continue to wander arround and hittin tomates, while the shit if flying all over the place, hitting you in the face and beeing generally unpleasant, your starting to get angry, screaming at the shit, but you figure out its pointless, for obvious reasons, because it only replys variations of "noob". While you wander/run arround trying to find cover for the shit droppin from the sky, you stumble upon something yellow, round and bouncy, for a while you wonder, "what is this? And what do I do with it?", but then you try to hit it with you'r raquet, its amazing! What a discovery, you'r having such a fun time the shit droppin from the sky dont disturb you as much as before. After a while you'r really good at having the ball under controll, bouncin on the raquet as if this is nobodys bznz. Suddenly you hear a voice.
This part is focusing on the whine that will occur on lower levels, often without a purpose and often very harsh for someone whos learning the game, but since you'v found the missing half of you'r raquet, you'r gettin better at this thing, whatever it is.
Part 4
The voice is calling on you, you turn arround wondering where it came from, and there ins the distance you see a shadowy figure, you rush towards it, your totally coverd in shit when you get to this person, he greets you and notices you have a raquet and a ball, he picks up his own equipment, you both smile and whoner what whill happen. You get an awesome idea, that if you hit the ball in his direction he might be able to hit it back, and he does, but because of the severe shitstorm arround you, your having problems seeing the ball and hitting it back. You start to wonder if you might be able to build some kind of shelter. After a while the two of you find another person with the same equipment as you, and your plan gets in the work, a big area shelter is starting to arise, fianlly some cover from the shitstorm, adn during all this some more people come and go to play with you, your finally starting to enjoy this! This is fun!
This part is focusing on improving you'r gameplay and teamplay, your starting to improve, enjoying the game with some buddies, eventually you might be able to play on a real tenniscourt at the tip top level. This is where it shines, this is where HoN/DotA is!
I hope this wont discourage people from starting to play, but I promise you, in 99% of cases you'r story will be somewhat like this.
On March 11 2011 09:02 Rakanishu2 wrote: From someone who played all three extensively, HoN requires the most knowledge and skill, by far.
LOOOOOOOOOOLololololol. HoN requires more knowledge and skill than DotA!????! Seriously just quit plaing straightaway if you think so. Please spectate some professional DotA and then see if you can tolerate any professional HoN ! Also while you're at it, you have all the freedom to stop spouting BS like that!
On March 14 2011 05:51 anka wrote: When I read the line "Let's Play" I always think of something accessible, easy to get into. But HoN/DotA is far from that, lets do an anology/story. It will be devided into parts.
Part 1
Imagine yourself swimming in an ocean of piss, and from time to time you dive down to the bottom of the ocean to scoure the seabed for something usefull, thats about how pleasnt and thats how much you will understand of your first games. Then after you have done quite many dives down to the bottom of the ocean you finally find something, you pick it up, it has an ovalshaped top and a stick connected to the oval shape, you wonder what this is, you think of it for a while, and then suddenly you find land! At this point you'v been swimming in an ocean of piss that is the start of playing HoN/dota and the Racquet you'v found on the bottom of the ocean will represent the understanding of the gameplay.
Part 2
You'v got ahold of it, but you dont really know what to do with it, its frustrating, you have this awesome thing and you really dont know what to do. While you wander arround on the piece of dirt your on, and suddenly you find something red and round, you start to wonder, wonder if I can hit it with my raquet? You try, the red round thing gets smashed and falls to the ground as a red gooey thing, you find more red rounds things, lets call them tomates. After a while when you'v been hitting these tomates, you notice that the sun is gone and the clouds in the sky is gettin darker. Now you'v have had some experiance with the gameplay (raquet) but you dont really know what you'r doin, it might feel pointless, but atleast you'r gettin better at hittin those tomates and damn hard to.
Part 3
BEWARE - Shitstorm incoming. The sky is gettin darker, and suddenly small pieces of something brown, gooey and smelly drops down from the sky, you wonder what this is. But you continue to wander arround and hittin tomates, while the shit if flying all over the place, hitting you in the face and beeing generally unpleasant, your starting to get angry, screaming at the shit, but you figure out its pointless, for obvious reasons, because it only replys variations of "noob". While you wander/run arround trying to find cover for the shit droppin from the sky, you stumble upon something yellow, round and bouncy, for a while you wonder, "what is this? And what do I do with it?", but then you try to hit it with you'r raquet, its amazing! What a discovery, you'r having such a fun time the shit droppin from the sky dont disturb you as much as before. After a while you'r really good at having the ball under controll, bouncin on the raquet as if this is nobodys bznz. Suddenly you hear a voice.
This part is focusing on the whine that will occur on lower levels, often without a purpose and often very harsh for someone whos learning the game, but since you'v found the missing half of you'r raquet, you'r gettin better at this thing, whatever it is.
Part 4
The voice is calling on you, you turn arround wondering where it came from, and there ins the distance you see a shadowy figure, you rush towards it, your totally coverd in shit when you get to this person, he greets you and notices you have a raquet and a ball, he picks up his own equipment, you both smile and whoner what whill happen. You get an awesome idea, that if you hit the ball in his direction he might be able to hit it back, and he does, but because of the severe shitstorm arround you, your having problems seeing the ball and hitting it back. You start to wonder if you might be able to build some kind of shelter. After a while the two of you find another person with the same equipment as you, and your plan gets in the work, a big area shelter is starting to arise, fianlly some cover from the shitstorm, adn during all this some more people come and go to play with you, your finally starting to enjoy this! This is fun!
This part is focusing on improving you'r gameplay and teamplay, your starting to improve, enjoying the game with some buddies, eventually you might be able to play on a real tenniscourt at the tip top level. This is where it shines, this is where HoN/DotA is!
I hope this wont discourage people from starting to play, but I promise you, in 99% of cases you'r story will be somewhat like this.
Also to lazy to look for typos and whatnot.
omg, idk why but i actually read all of this incredibly full of typos and... actually i dont think they're typos... its just random finger spasms? hello -> typo = hwllo or hellp or helo, not wonder -> whoner your -> you'r you're -> you'r
anyways, besides the painful spelling, story didnt really help at all, especially since u had to explain what each part of the story meant also, its not always that bad... just find good people and play with them thats how i went from being a random ubernoob pub (i'd say <1000 PSR) to.... playing with devaz/alv/riki/testie and being decent i guess :D