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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
July 27 2010 01:18 GMT
#20121
Well, for starters, AA is fragile. He needs some kind of defense mechanism from items whether it be movespeed, blink, disable, whatever. AA needs/prefers (?) fast lvling for his spammable ults and shitty stats. So you have 2 options if you wanna lvl AA: farm creeps or gank heroes, and neither option seems good for him. Right now, his role is unclear to me. He's good at.... nothing? except finishing off heroes with a dodgeable ult.

As for slark, I don't know which part you're saying is a built-in BKB but he too has low enough HP to make up for his other imba features. I'm not sure if they fixed it yet but when slark first came out and I tried BKB on him, the 'C' skill turned it off and I was so pissed (random comment). Slark falls to burst dmg lineups I think. In the right circumstances, he can be imba but in a match against the lineup I described, I have a hard time picturing how slark's going to slip in and do his thing.

Nitrogen: lol, that game's such a mess
('''(G_G/'''')
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 27 2010 01:27 GMT
#20122
On July 27 2010 10:18 Heen wrote:
Well, for starters, AA is fragile. He needs some kind of defense mechanism from items whether it be movespeed, blink, disable, whatever. AA needs/prefers (?) fast lvling for his spammable ults and shitty stats. So you have 2 options if you wanna lvl AA: farm creeps or gank heroes, and neither option seems good for him. Right now, his role is unclear to me. He's good at.... nothing? except finishing off heroes with a dodgeable ult.

As for slark, I don't know which part you're saying is a built-in BKB but he too has low enough HP to make up for his other imba features. I'm not sure if they fixed it yet but when slark first came out and I tried BKB on him, the 'C' skill turned it off and I was so pissed (random comment). Slark falls to burst dmg lineups I think. In the right circumstances, he can be imba but in a match against the lineup I described, I have a hard time picturing how slark's going to slip in and do his thing.

Nitrogen: lol, that game's such a mess


225 to 1000 aoe at 1500 projectile speed isn't that easily dodge-able.

You don't need to farm as much as you think since you are still essentially spell based, you have pretty good casting range with everything above 700 range. You don't need to stay in the fight per say thanks to your ultimate. Specifically, I have a problem with that ultimate, it's too easy, it's too strong for a free set up that locks you out of legitimate options early on a team fight. It's the strongest out of the follow up ultimates once both teams are committed to a team fight, that's the problem, the other team has no great options mid game, no heals, nothing defensive, so they have to fight or risk losing 1 or 2 heroes for no gain.

Thanks to the global casting range of it, he can afford to lane freely, aka not necessarily be there. Plus he has his own stun and snare to cover himself. Late game he can give a free 350 magical damage buff (-15% attack speed debuff is pointless).

He's no more fragile than Lion, except AA's more focused on team fights and aoe.
Get it by your hands...
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 27 2010 01:45 GMT
#20123
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha
UNFUCK YOURSELF
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 27 2010 02:30 GMT
#20124
On July 27 2010 10:45 Nitrogen wrote:
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha

what the hell did i just read

AA's ult is good, all needs is a team to abuse positioning shit like DS Enigma etc etc
its just that the rest of the hero sucks
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 27 2010 02:39 GMT
#20125
The rest of the hero plays like Silencer, needs to drag the team fight out to make him good and needs space and safety in lane.
Get it by your hands...
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 27 2010 02:43 GMT
#20126
On July 27 2010 11:30 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 10:45 Nitrogen wrote:
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha

what the hell did i just read

AA's ult is good, all needs is a team to abuse positioning shit like DS Enigma etc etc
its just that the rest of the hero sucks


that's... exactly what i just said...
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 27 2010 02:45 GMT
#20127
On July 27 2010 11:43 Nitrogen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 11:30 rabidch wrote:
On July 27 2010 10:45 Nitrogen wrote:
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha

what the hell did i just read

AA's ult is good, all needs is a team to abuse positioning shit like DS Enigma etc etc
its just that the rest of the hero sucks


that's... exactly what i just said...


and what i said too, man rabidch work on your engrish.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 27 2010 02:46 GMT
#20128
On July 27 2010 11:43 Nitrogen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 11:30 rabidch wrote:
On July 27 2010 10:45 Nitrogen wrote:
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha

what the hell did i just read

AA's ult is good, all needs is a team to abuse positioning shit like DS Enigma etc etc
its just that the rest of the hero sucks


that's... exactly what i just said...

no i was just thinking how nitrogen actually made a decent post
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 27 2010 02:49 GMT
#20129
Nitrogen made decent posts before, it's just Elemenope kind of obscured that and led him to the dark side.
Get it by your hands...
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 27 2010 02:49 GMT
#20130
On July 27 2010 11:46 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 11:43 Nitrogen wrote:
On July 27 2010 11:30 rabidch wrote:
On July 27 2010 10:45 Nitrogen wrote:
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha

what the hell did i just read

AA's ult is good, all needs is a team to abuse positioning shit like DS Enigma etc etc
its just that the rest of the hero sucks


that's... exactly what i just said...

no i was just thinking how nitrogen actually made a decent post


all my posts are decent dawg.

except this one. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
UNFUCK YOURSELF
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 27 2010 03:24 GMT
#20131
On July 27 2010 11:49 Nitrogen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 11:46 rabidch wrote:
On July 27 2010 11:43 Nitrogen wrote:
On July 27 2010 11:30 rabidch wrote:
On July 27 2010 10:45 Nitrogen wrote:
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha

what the hell did i just read

AA's ult is good, all needs is a team to abuse positioning shit like DS Enigma etc etc
its just that the rest of the hero sucks


that's... exactly what i just said...

no i was just thinking how nitrogen actually made a decent post


all my posts are decent dawg.

except this one. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

How about an AOE version?
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 27 2010 03:34 GMT
#20132
On July 27 2010 12:24 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 11:49 Nitrogen wrote:
On July 27 2010 11:46 rabidch wrote:
On July 27 2010 11:43 Nitrogen wrote:
On July 27 2010 11:30 rabidch wrote:
On July 27 2010 10:45 Nitrogen wrote:
haha i liked the game heen, i got super excited in that team fight where you got a triple kill off that ult and i got excited and i was like omg they can come back! but then you guys got massacred in the rest of the teamfights unfortunately

aa's ult is definitely annoying as shit and kind of imba, but all his other skills are pretty... not that great. slark definitely dies to burst damage teams, but then again so do a lot of other heroes. if you slap vanguard+treads on him he can dish out a shitload of damage with his passive. also his ult is awesome as it is both an active and passive skill, but the active part is easily counter by dust/a sentry. also not to mention if you notice that ur passive turns off randomly you know the other team has warded there... haha

what the hell did i just read

AA's ult is good, all needs is a team to abuse positioning shit like DS Enigma etc etc
its just that the rest of the hero sucks


that's... exactly what i just said...

no i was just thinking how nitrogen actually made a decent post


all my posts are decent dawg.

except this one. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

How about an AOE version?


that's what it should be with aghs... 400 aoe culling blade!
UNFUCK YOURSELF
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
July 27 2010 04:04 GMT
#20133
Culling blade with Agh's should let you kill anyone with less HP than you :3

TRUE CULLING BLADE
Hates Fun🤔
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 27 2010 04:08 GMT
#20134
RABID WE HAVE TL IH GET ON RIGHT NOW
ITS DOTER TIME
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 27 2010 04:10 GMT
#20135
^ that is a lie, just btw. this is why i'm demoting u to inactive sexu, because you ARE TRYING TO TRICK RABID
UNFUCK YOURSELF
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 27 2010 04:15 GMT
#20136
On July 27 2010 13:10 Nitrogen wrote:
^ that is a lie, just btw. this is why i'm demoting u to inactive sexu, because you ARE TRYING TO TRICK RABID


WTF DUDE WHERE'D U GO
wanna talk on vent kthx
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 27 2010 04:17 GMT
#20137
On July 27 2010 13:08 OmgIRok wrote:
RABID WE HAVE TL IH GET ON RIGHT NOW
ITS DOTER TIME

sry eating dinner go away
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 27 2010 04:20 GMT
#20138
garena is doing some large update or something. i hope they make this shitty program less shitty.

http://www1.garena.com/clan/
UNFUCK YOURSELF
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
July 27 2010 04:26 GMT
#20139
Poll: Garena will...

somehow become shittier, like the last update. (6)
 
86%

actually become better. (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Garena will...

(Vote): somehow become shittier, like the last update.
(Vote): actually become better.

Hates Fun🤔
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 27 2010 04:28 GMT
#20140
On July 27 2010 13:20 Nitrogen wrote:
garena is doing some large update or something. i hope they make this shitty program less shitty.

http://www1.garena.com/clan/


So you were trying to demote me? :[
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
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