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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 26 2010 03:30 GMT
#20101
On July 26 2010 12:29 Judicator wrote:
Time to play old heroes for the next 3 versions until he balances out the heroes...oh wait he has to fix aoe culling blade first.


Go on...
Hates Fun🤔
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 03:39:16
July 26 2010 03:37 GMT
#20102
Go on what? He hasn't introduced a new hero or item that is remotely balanced since....NEVER. Through the simple fact that his beta team fails so hard at understanding the game and loving to mess with game mechanics that should never be done in small steps.
Get it by your hands...
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 26 2010 03:44 GMT
#20103
I was talking about the AoE culling blade :S
Hates Fun🤔
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 03:51:15
July 26 2010 03:48 GMT
#20104
AoE Culling Blade on a global casting range with short CD = Ancient Apparition's ultimate. That skill is straight up bullshit, he's Zeus on roids with a stun is what he boils down to.

Another example of well thought out heroes by Icefrog and why I hate his team's feedback.

AT 16, 150 mana on 20 sec cd that kills if under 12% that freezes HP for 9 seconds? really?
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 03:57:02
July 26 2010 03:53 GMT
#20105
On July 26 2010 12:48 Judicator wrote:
AoE Culling Blade on a global casting range with short CD = Ancient Apparition's ultimate. That skill is straight up bullshit, he's Zeus on roids with a stun is what he boils down to.

Another example of well thought out heroes by Icefrog.

Slark and AA need more thought to them, they are horribly made heroes.
AA's Ultimate is better than Culling Blade. What makes it most annoying is cancellation of heals.

Cold Feet: Boring ass spell in general.
Ice Vortex: my favorite AA spell but still needs to be rethought, you can have multiple of these...
Chilling Touch: 50-46-42-38 Cooldown REALLY? Just rescale this shit.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:04:01
July 26 2010 04:02 GMT
#20106
' I purposely like to introduce new heroes as imbalanced so I can know how to fix them according to their glaring strengths '
- IceFrog

The global aoe culling blade thing came from me calling it that cuz I seem to die to it more than anyone else but I mean...if you really look at that hero and he goes through the normal imba>nerf>tweak that most heroes go through, AA will be a shit hero. That's his only real saving point as it is. Basically he's in his imba state now, but compare that to recent new heroes like TC and Bat when they were in their imba stages and you can see how he might turn out.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 26 2010 06:46 GMT
#20107
On July 26 2010 11:30 OmgIRok wrote:
GUYS LETS DOTA?
HOLY CRAP MAN
ALSO WHERES HOPE? HE'S BEEN MIA FOR LIKE 2 MONTHS NOW.
I NEED MY PROMOTE ASAP


i can promote you.
i'm not going to, but i have the ability to.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
July 26 2010 08:08 GMT
#20108
Hrmm...? I've always considered murloc and AA to be below average heroes. They're pretty shitty as far as I can tell.
('''(G_G/'''')
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 26 2010 08:45 GMT
#20109
On July 26 2010 15:46 Nitrogen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 11:30 OmgIRok wrote:
GUYS LETS DOTA?
HOLY CRAP MAN
ALSO WHERES HOPE? HE'S BEEN MIA FOR LIKE 2 MONTHS NOW.
I NEED MY PROMOTE ASAP


i can promote you.
i'm not going to, but i have the ability to.


DUDE I'm like the most active member in the clan
Can't I atleast get elite member
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 26 2010 08:46 GMT
#20110
im demoting u to inactive
UNFUCK YOURSELF
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 26 2010 09:06 GMT
#20111
On July 26 2010 17:46 Nitrogen wrote:
im demoting u to inactive


when everyone quits dota and i'm the only one left..............
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 09:13:53
July 26 2010 09:11 GMT
#20112
On July 26 2010 12:48 Judicator wrote:
AoE Culling Blade on a global casting range with short CD = Ancient Apparition's ultimate. That skill is straight up bullshit, he's Zeus on roids with a stun is what he boils down to.

Another example of well thought out heroes by Icefrog and why I hate his team's feedback.

AT 16, 150 mana on 20 sec cd that kills if under 12% that freezes HP for 9 seconds? really?


Oh by the way you totally shoulda seen that video where he hit 3 heroes with ult, and then ursa used overpower and thunder clap and gave AA triple kill while he was still in fountain

"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
July 26 2010 11:57 GMT
#20113
Don't see what's wrong with slark, maybe people just hate the concept. AA just needs number tweaking and his ulti cd increased a lot.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 16:31:39
July 26 2010 16:20 GMT
#20114
On July 26 2010 17:08 Heen wrote:
Hrmm...? I've always considered murloc and AA to be below average heroes. They're pretty shitty as far as I can tell.


What makes them good is overpowered, then when said things get nerfed, they go into the neglected heroes bin. Slark's gonna be the new pre-nerf CW, there so much mid game potential for him. Tinkering with movespeed never works out well for new heroes.

AA is dumb, that ultimate is dumb, the fact that it gets fucking bigger the farther you are from the target is dumb. The HP lock out means if unless you get some kind of true invincibility you are dead is dumb. What gives you true invincibility? Nothing. So you have no outs unless primal split/split image/manta/purge removes it.
Get it by your hands...
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
July 26 2010 16:24 GMT
#20115
On July 26 2010 17:08 Heen wrote:
Hrmm...? I've always considered murloc and AA to be below average heroes. They're pretty shitty as far as I can tell.



AA is pretty shitty if you consider he will be nerfed and his ulti is the only thing really good about him. He has very little laning ability that comes from himself, I think he depends more than anyone on the other player.

Slark on the other hand is close to broken as far as I can tell. I'd like to know why you think he's shitty. If you are a competent player, slark is pretty much a dream melee ganker. Built in bkb, ensnare, and a stat steal that steals waaaaay too much.

Anyway they both aren't like omgwtf imba, its just that they are in their ' imba ' stages as far as icefrog character development patterns go.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 16:43:26
July 26 2010 16:38 GMT
#20116
On July 26 2010 09:08 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 09:07 hideo wrote:
holy crap... how many new heroes again?

WCG
LGD vs Nv.cn
http://news.replays.net/page/20100725/1488914.html


Is that just a best of 1??
I demand moarr!!

o and heads up ubermatt:
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/34611
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 23:29:10
July 26 2010 23:28 GMT
#20117
On July 27 2010 01:38 hideo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 09:08 rabidch wrote:
On July 26 2010 09:07 hideo wrote:
holy crap... how many new heroes again?

WCG
LGD vs Nv.cn
http://news.replays.net/page/20100725/1488914.html


Is that just a best of 1??
I demand moarr!!

o and heads up ubermatt:
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/34611


yea, already saw. i'm sure i would have enjoyed it much more live, it was effectively long periods of farming broken up by xxf saving nirvana in team fights and delaying the inevitable

the offensive gg was cute though :D
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
July 26 2010 23:49 GMT
#20118
On July 26 2010 07:17 semantics wrote:
I forget does basher stack with passives anymore?


Basher doesn't stack with bash abilities like say for troll warlord. If I'm not wrong, a basher actually does stack for faceless and so does a butterfly with his evasion thingy because of its mechanics and triggers being different from bash and evade but serve they same purpose.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 00:28:57
July 27 2010 00:17 GMT
#20119
On July 27 2010 08:49 JMave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 07:17 semantics wrote:
I forget does basher stack with passives anymore?


Basher doesn't stack with bash abilities like say for troll warlord. If I'm not wrong, a basher actually does stack for faceless and so does a butterfly with his evasion thingy because of its mechanics and triggers being different from bash and evade but serve they same purpose.


Basher doesn't stack with anything (item or skill) except MKB (both of its procs).
True evasion != triggered heals.

I should clarify I am referring to the stun duration. For melee heroes with bash, should both instances proc a bash, the damage is stacked but the stun duration is taken by the longest. This is why melee MKB >>>> ranged MKB.
Get it by your hands...
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 27 2010 00:22 GMT
#20120
yeah basically what judicator said. basher doesn't stack with void, but bfly does stack as his passive isn't actually evasion.

also heen, i saw ur 3rd place wcg asia match on gg.net!
UNFUCK YOURSELF
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