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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 24 2010 04:14 GMT
#20061
On July 24 2010 07:44 BDF92 wrote:
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On July 24 2010 07:09 Pokebunny wrote:
CURRENTLY STREAMING: TL HoN League: Team 3 vs Team 6

livestream.com/pokebunny

fast game :o


Was a 17 minute rape. I'll give the match ID tomorrow.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 24 2010 04:49 GMT
#20062
im excited for the new doter patch

this looks like a baller skill yo

[image loading]
UNFUCK YOURSELF
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 24 2010 07:49 GMT
#20063
On July 24 2010 13:49 Nitrogen wrote:
im excited for the new doter patch

this looks like a baller skill yo

[image loading]


Tiny agahnims to make him bigger gogo
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
GazeRocker
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada60 Posts
July 24 2010 09:52 GMT
#20064
O YES, GAZETTE NEW SINGLE FINALLY OUT T_T!

such an amazing song!

[image loading]


User was temp banned for this post.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 24 2010 10:46 GMT
#20065
Will you be blessing our ears with your cover of this song in vent? >_>
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 24 2010 11:00 GMT
#20066
On July 24 2010 18:52 GazeRocker wrote:
O YES, GAZETTE NEW SINGLE FINALLY OUT T_T!

such an amazing song!

[image loading]


Aren't you a PBU?
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 24 2010 12:24 GMT
#20067
On July 24 2010 13:07 Judicator wrote:
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On July 24 2010 09:13 rabidch wrote:
On July 24 2010 09:05 Judicator wrote:
No his aura works with his spirit too so for all effective purposes it's works.

The reason I say he'll work well is because that aura reduces base armor and armor gained from +AGI. He won't be a initiator for sure but a pretty nasty follow up. Like pair him with a skilled Invoker; wouldn't so bad mid game, late game his aura only gets better against the popular items, Manta, Skadi, Linkens and Icewall can cover BKB any day.

Throw in your Deso for some minus armor against Curiass (or make a Curiass yourself), it's pretty nice damage.

oh yeah i also forgot to say the only thing covering his survivability is a pretty good movespeed from the spirit, he goes down about as easy as the current kunkka, meaning its quite difficult to play him as a semi carry (from a mid skill level perspective), though a lot of heroes work very well with tc (alch tc hurts so bad)

nevermind about alch i feel stupid, this is why im bad (only works if rad and shit turned off)


Doesn't matter as much as you think, unlike Kunkka who needs to cleave to most of his damage, TC has aura on stupid far range, and has a very far range ultimate. TC can work with just his aura and relying on his team to help so since it works with spells too. The reason I say he's like a melee SF is because mid-late game SF provides direct damage and uses Requiem/Blink/BKB to pick off a support instantly/quickly, the same goes for the TC except his aura scales better than anything SF has to offer.

Aura scales better because SF's shit is a lot of constants and not percentage, but SF provides a lot of early and mid game leverage which TC cannot do easily because of reliance on teammates and a hell of a lot better laning, Spirit spell damage is subpar (decent cooldown), TC does not have damage output like Raze does, and it is much much harder to get off a more meaningful Earth Splitter than a Reqiuem of Souls and Razes just because of reliance on positioning despite it's awesome damage and maim.
Aura does not make a difference in until at least mid game if you skill it quickly and even then if you think it has great range I just checked again and it's a pitiful 250 radius range (50 radius smaller than Axe's Berserker Call and only slightly bigger than Storm's Revenant) meaning they have to be right next to the Spirit. Additionally the farther the spirit is from TC the shittier it is for TC to do anything since he has to walk farther for damage and has less area for his Ultimate to cover.
On the other hand SF doesn't have to deal with this crap and all his spells have range that doesn't compromise his abilities.
The reason why survivability comes into place is because it is vital for TC to get off the Echo Slam, be able to deal some damage afterward with damage gained from Spirit and stay alive so your aura is kept.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 24 2010 18:34 GMT
#20068
CURRENTLY STREAMING: TL HoN League: Team 2 vs Team 5

livestream.com/pokebunny
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 24 2010 20:04 GMT
#20069
On July 25 2010 03:34 Pokebunny wrote:
CURRENTLY STREAMING: TL HoN League: Team 2 vs Team 5

livestream.com/pokebunny


Use [time] so people don't get disappointed when they've missed it T_T
Hates Fun🤔
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 24 2010 21:24 GMT
#20070
Look at the post time then? :<
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 23:40:06
July 24 2010 23:31 GMT
#20071
HoNCast invitational grand finals was awesome,
+ Show Spoiler +
I really didn't expect LOAD to even come close to winning after their first game, where LOAD went 1-23


ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 24 2010 23:49 GMT
#20072
Yeah was an epic back and forth game, trading near genocides. Was surprised by + Show Spoiler +
swiftblade's
item choices and his ability to carry so hard into the game.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
July 25 2010 00:09 GMT
#20073
Match replay links for the honcast invitational:

+ Show Spoiler +


http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=8343649
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=8347355
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=8352520

semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 01:08:21
July 25 2010 01:06 GMT
#20074
On July 24 2010 20:00 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 18:52 GazeRocker wrote:
O YES, GAZETTE NEW SINGLE FINALLY OUT T_T!

such an amazing song!

[image loading]


Aren't you a PBU?

Aren't we all, although it does confirm where his name comes from, just as i always though
although frankly i prefer that bands older sound before they emphasized The in front of the band name
+ Show Spoiler +

more and more they moved to hard and heavy metal styles eh

On July 25 2010 09:09 Garrl wrote:
Match replay links for the honcast invitational:

+ Show Spoiler +


http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=8343649
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=8347355
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=8352520


ty
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 25 2010 03:31 GMT
#20075
[image loading]
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 25 2010 04:19 GMT
#20076
Force staff is thumbs up. No Basher is thumbs down.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 25 2010 04:55 GMT
#20077
On July 25 2010 13:19 Judicator wrote:
Force staff is thumbs up. No Basher is thumbs down.

was going for divine instead
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 25 2010 06:05 GMT
#20078
so i was pubbing with ryugie

and he used his serpent wards on ancients once, and just on standard creep waves twice

SO FUCKING GOOD
UNFUCK YOURSELF
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 25 2010 06:17 GMT
#20079
On July 25 2010 13:55 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 13:19 Judicator wrote:
Force staff is thumbs up. No Basher is thumbs down.

was going for divine instead

real men go eaglehorn
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 25 2010 06:24 GMT
#20080
roogie thinks he's funny
he also dagon'ed the range creep many many times
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
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