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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
Played like 5-7 TL inhouses tonight, was awesome guys :D | ||
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Risen
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Wala.Revolution
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
http://www.playdota.com/forums/blogs/icefrog/ I'm really excited about the new drafting mode.  1- Captains Mode: There is a new ban and pick system for CM in 6.68. Instead of 4 bans and then 5 picks, now it is 3 bans and then 3 picks followed by 2 bans and 2 picks. Information about the exact drafting order will be detailed in the changelog. | ||
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paper
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On July 23 2010 09:47 Judicator wrote: Veno's wards needs to be re-worked, it's the weirdest shit ever, and maybe extend his range, because that shit is a trade at best in lanes right now with his 295 ms base. Never mind split image or bkb, a fucking tp rapes him so hard. SkelKing is fine imo, his stun is short and effective; I think its because his item progression isn't that good and the AGIs and Ints have better effective ceilings as a result. Armlet is trashy for it's tier, like there's nothing to build on that Armlet efficiently (like a Manta equivalent or a Guinsoo). TC needs to be played as a semi-carry, think too many people still remember his bullshit version and try to play him as much, but to me he's a melee STR version of SF and needs to be played/picked as much. I thought caster TC was carry TC I mean if you can farm up an arcane/shiva/guinsoo + refresh you win pretty much every teamfight | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 23 2010 17:14 Dead9 wrote: I thought caster TC was carry TC I mean if you can farm up an arcane/shiva/guinsoo + refresh you win pretty much every teamfight No old TC players still try to pull that Bfury build and stack damage since he had high STR growth, his aura raped hardcore (still does) and pretty much can 1v5 teams once that BKB hits, because no hero could trade hits with him if the Heart hit as well. He could farm those pretty damn fast too thanks to the aura and spirit. | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 24 2010 05:38 Nitrogen wrote: didn't his ult used to be like 60 seconds cd at all levels? lol Not sure, I just never saw any of him in high level reps, because basically it was Bat/TC auto or Bat/TC first banned. I personally suck with him but he was like the first version of Alch except he would dominate heroes, creeps, and team fights along with tons of farm with that stupid HP pool. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
livestream.com/pokebunny | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On July 24 2010 06:59 Judicator wrote: Not sure, I just never saw any of him in high level reps, because basically it was Bat/TC auto or Bat/TC first banned. I personally suck with him but he was like the first version of Alch except he would dominate heroes, creeps, and team fights along with tons of farm with that stupid HP pool. i'm pretty sure it was either 60 seconds at all levels or 60/80/100. now im just thinking about unnerfed batrider. that shit was hilarious. especially with the sticky napalm/radiance, haha. | ||
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Corr
Denmark796 Posts
I'm curious to see what IceFrog plans to do about the melee heroes. I mean chinese dota has reached such a level that picking any kind of melee that isn't semi-op (ds, alch, bm, kunkka) or earthshaker/sven will cause you to lose lanes and ultimately the game. IEM will be interesting, I expect to see Sylla reinvented | ||
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Kezzer
United States1268 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:09 Pokebunny wrote: CURRENTLY STREAMING: TL HoN League: Team 3 vs Team 6 livestream.com/pokebunny fast game :o | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
Damn fun with the aura and getting +300 damage. I need to experiment more with himOn July 23 2010 17:14 Dead9 wrote: I thought caster TC was carry TC I mean if you can farm up an arcane/shiva/guinsoo + refresh you win pretty much every teamfight caster TC is bad TC, getting arcane is about as useful as getting arcane on ES (near useless and a good indicator of a noob/stupid build), and shivas does nearly nothing. the only item he really benefits from there is guinsoo but its not a good item overall, like judicator said he should be played semi carry to abuse his movespeed damage ability and long semi-stun | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 24 2010 08:40 rabidch wrote: The only way I know how to play TC is burst damage Lothars Deso. Damn fun with the aura and getting +300 damage. I need to experiment more with himI honestly think TC would be godly this version if he doesn't strain his team (can't imagine him any more than a Levi), namely because of the advent of stat items over damage items on some heroes. A friend sent me this after I showed him the other picture in other thread, pub dota at it's finest: + Show Spoiler + What the fuck is a Blink Dagger: Tide, Magnus, Enigma, Earthshaker, Axe, Centaur I leave my skills on autocast: Drow, Viper, Puck, Huskar, Magi, Lich My ultimate screws over my team: Void, Naga Siren Bottle first always: Zeus, PotM, NA Level 1 spell? SPAM: PA, Bristleback, Clockwerk, Pitlord My level 1 spell kills me more than my opponents: Juggs, Techies You're lucky I didn't get...: Sniper, CK, SB I am too slow to...: BH, Slard, Lina, Lesh I miss targeted stuns: Lion, NA, Sand King You're doing it wrong: Doom, Enchant, Chen, Alchemist I only try to use my ultimate at 100 HP: Medusa, Pitlord, Panda, TB Fuck you I am going Vlads first: PL, Naga I am going to jungle...at level 5: Naix, Lycan, Troll, Syllabear I didn't know my skill was channeling: TC, Atropos I only use my ultimate to scout: Spectre, Zeus Why the fuck would I get a BKB: DK, Brood, Sven I can't press more than a button per second: TA, Storm I spend more time being invisible and doing nothing: SA, Clinkz Fuck you I am getting aura first: Skeleton King, VS, SF, Beast My only use is countered by a single item: Omni, Veno, BS, Furion, Pudge, Treant I don't get my stun until level 9: Windrunner, THD My spells do what?: Batrider, Invoker, WD, Rhasta, Kunkka People come to Rosh to take my Aegis: Ursa Only one control group is used: Meepo, Visage Standing at fountain is the same as going with my team: CM, Ancient Apparition It's my mana and I want it now: KotL I never get away from ganks: AM, QoP, Morph What is heal?: LoA, Necrolyte, SPriest Why the fuck would you still play me? SA, Dirge, Tinker When the stars and the planets align, I'll be good: Silencer, NS, Luna | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On July 24 2010 08:47 Judicator wrote: I honestly think TC would be godly this version if he doesn't strain his team (can't imagine him any more than a Levi), namely because of the advent of stat items over damage items on some heroes. A friend sent me this after I showed him the other picture in other thread, pub dota at it's finest: + Show Spoiler + What the fuck is a Blink Dagger: Tide, Magnus, Enigma, Earthshaker, Axe, Centaur I leave my skills on autocast: Drow, Viper, Puck, Huskar, Magi, Lich My ultimate screws over my team: Void, Naga Siren Bottle first always: Zeus, PotM, NA Level 1 spell? SPAM: PA, Bristleback, Clockwerk, Pitlord My level 1 spell kills me more than my opponents: Juggs, Techies You're lucky I didn't get...: Sniper, CK, SB I am too slow to...: BH, Slard, Lina, Lesh I miss targeted stuns: Lion, NA, Sand King You're doing it wrong: Doom, Enchant, Chen, Alchemist I only try to use my ultimate at 100 HP: Medusa, Pitlord, Panda, TB Fuck you I am going Vlads first: PL, Naga I am going to jungle...at level 5: Naix, Lycan, Troll, Syllabear I didn't know my skill was channeling: TC, Atropos I only use my ultimate to scout: Spectre, Zeus Why the fuck would I get a BKB: DK, Brood, Sven I can't press more than a button per second: TA, Storm I spend more time being invisible and doing nothing: SA, Clinkz Fuck you I am getting aura first: Skeleton King, VS, SF, Beast My only use is countered by a single item: Omni, Veno, BS, Furion, Pudge, Treant I don't get my stun until level 9: Windrunner, THD My spells do what?: Batrider, Invoker, WD, Rhasta, Kunkka People come to Rosh to take my Aegis: Ursa Only one control group is used: Meepo, Visage Standing at fountain is the same as going with my team: CM, Ancient Apparition It's my mana and I want it now: KotL I never get away from ganks: AM, QoP, Morph What is heal?: LoA, Necrolyte, SPriest Why the fuck would you still play me? SA, Dirge, Tinker When the stars and the planets align, I'll be good: Silencer, NS, Luna I don't know any good stat items for TC, but I haven't really fucked around with him because the burst damage build is too fun for me to theorycraft anythingg. I think his biggest weakness is the fact that his slam takes time to do making him very reliant on the team and possibly a bigger strain than thought also i dont remember if the aura is really small? | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
The reason I say he'll work well is because that aura reduces base armor and armor gained from +AGI. He won't be a initiator for sure but a pretty nasty follow up. Like pair him with a skilled Invoker; wouldn't so bad mid game, late game his aura only gets better against the popular items, Manta, Skadi, Linkens and Icewall can cover BKB any day. Throw in your Deso for some minus armor against Curiass (or make a Curiass yourself), it's pretty nice damage. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On July 24 2010 09:05 Judicator wrote: No his aura works with his spirit too so for all effective purposes it's works. The reason I say he'll work well is because that aura reduces base armor and armor gained from +AGI. He won't be a initiator for sure but a pretty nasty follow up. Like pair him with a skilled Invoker; wouldn't so bad mid game, late game his aura only gets better against the popular items, Manta, Skadi, Linkens and Icewall can cover BKB any day. Throw in your Deso for some minus armor against Curiass (or make a Curiass yourself), it's pretty nice damage. oh yeah i also forgot to say the only thing covering his survivability is a pretty good movespeed from the spirit, he goes down about as easy as the current kunkka, meaning its quite difficult to play him as a semi carry (from a mid skill level perspective), though a lot of heroes work very well with tc (alch tc hurts so bad) nevermind about alch i feel stupid, this is why im bad (only works if rad and shit turned off) | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 24 2010 09:13 rabidch wrote: oh yeah i also forgot to say the only thing covering his survivability is a pretty good movespeed from the spirit, he goes down about as easy as the current kunkka, meaning its quite difficult to play him as a semi carry (from a mid skill level perspective), though a lot of heroes work very well with tc (alch tc hurts so bad) nevermind about alch i feel stupid, this is why im bad (only works if rad and shit turned off) Doesn't matter as much as you think, unlike Kunkka who needs to cleave to most of his damage, TC has aura on stupid far range, and has a very far range ultimate. TC can work with just his aura and relying on his team to help so since it works with spells too. The reason I say he's like a melee SF is because mid-late game SF provides direct damage and uses Requiem/Blink/BKB to pick off a support instantly/quickly, the same goes for the TC except his aura scales better than anything SF has to offer. | ||
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