[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1002

On July 23 2010 04:40 itzbrandnew wrote:
Whew, glad I'm not an asshole :S

In other news, is anyone willing to maybe stream the tourney matches?

On July 23 2010 04:29 H wrote:


What I've gathered is that about 95% of TL's HoN community is completely capable of holding a constructive, on-topic conversation about the game and strategies and then we have 5% (maybe a little less now) shitposting retards who can't.

That's actually a pretty good ratio now that I think about it.

On July 23 2010 04:43 Heen wrote:
So trilaning in HoN isn't that widespread, is it?

Recently our team's been trying to keep updated with the recent trend of dota (read: chinese dota). Although it's not necessarily good to copy the top teams, they sort of write the textbooks for teams below them so why not? Whenever we trilane, it's standard 1 strong solo mid hero (sf, lion, wr etc.) and 2 stuns with another carry on the trilane side and 1 hero sent to the shithole (ds, brood, enigma, havent figure many out yet).

But playing with foreign teams, they seem to have a much deeper understanding of this stuff. I asked roy from aeon what you're supposed to look at to decide when trilaning is going to be in your favor and all he said is: you just stack the safe side (sent bot, scourge top). But when I see Chinese replays, trilanes always end up vs'ing each other so it can't be a cointoss. I used to think the trilane that has a bigger reward when it gets complete lane domination has the luxury of taking the safe side but it hasn't always turned out that way.

We have a tendency to always stack trilanes with an aggresive carry but that too doesn't always seem to be the case. I've seen wd/rhasta/cm lanes while leaving alche to solo mid instead rhasta.

On July 23 2010 05:16 rabidch wrote:

Even I hardly see Lion solo in Chinese replays anymore. WD/Rhasta/CM is theoretically a push lane... Usually Chinese have a good guess as to what is going to be trilane and what isn't, I've always wondered why and wondering if it's just good pick sense, but when looking over the end picks you can see when there's a good chance of trilane, it just depends what they're going to put into it.
There was one game with DK and they picked AM to counter Dusa but Nirvana.cn just trilaned bottom with a THD, CM, WD (going heavy voodoo) and the game was just one sided, AM didn't get any farm until he was out of the lane and those 3 guys + YaphetS too busy running around destroying and pushing everything while Zhou stacked farm with Dusa.

On July 23 2010 05:02 iSiN wrote:
poke can you get me into the tournament 0_0 drop the 98% emer lololol. If not I may be able to dust off my livestream for casting or something.

On July 23 2010 05:59 Heen wrote:
AM is an alright counter to dusa but he puts a strain on your team for obvious reasons. Slow farming, needs babysit, no AOE and terrible at pushes. AM has good tanking, especially after a smooth start, very good DPS late game so he isn't only picked vs dusa lineups either.

Hero specific counter picks aren't very common in high lvls just like you often make a well balanced army in BW rather than adjust your army composition ratio specifically to what your opponent has. This is the problem a lot of 'bad' teams suffer from. They want an easy way out: out-pick by being able to naturally have the upperhand.

On July 22 2010 16:11 H wrote:


All of my friends tell me to play HoN but I have refused out of hatred for anything DoTA up to this point. Is there a decent equivalent of Juggernaut from DoTA in HoN?

On July 23 2010 08:43 Heen wrote:
I'm waiting for my laundry and have nothing better to do so I'll list some heroes that I've been meaning to experiment with, in no particular order.

Chieftain: Build him as a semi-carry and fuck up their formation and pick off the weaklings.

Furion: Fun hero overall. Basically prioritize map control, and fuck the other lanes early on.

Leoric: Even with the recent buffs, he's still barely ever picked but I wanna give this guy a try :p Probably take him with a push lineup and feed him some towers asap.

Veno: Actually this guy's been getting popular recently but I find him so fucking helpless as time goes by. He has one of the worst ults in the game and has less presence than crystal maiden.

Random list of heroes that I think are too shitty/need a remake because they're boring or/and shitty:

Pudge
Omni
Huskar: wtf is this guy supposed to do.
Treant: my most hated hero of all time I think
Spiritbreaker: bad.
Troll: guarantees a low quality game
Seeker: fix his cast animation
Soul keeper: terribad
Leshrac: I can't imagine a single game where he would be the perfect pick. He's fragile as fuck and has shit cast animation on top of it. Rework his ult maybe.
Warlock: boring

On July 23 2010 08:43 Heen wrote:
I'm waiting for my laundry and have nothing better to do so I'll list some heroes that I've been meaning to experiment with, in no particular order.

Chieftain: Build him as a semi-carry and fuck up their formation and pick off the weaklings.

Furion: Fun hero overall. Basically prioritize map control, and fuck the other lanes early on.

Leoric: Even with the recent buffs, he's still barely ever picked but I wanna give this guy a try :p Probably take him with a push lineup and feed him some towers asap.

Veno: Actually this guy's been getting popular recently but I find him so fucking helpless as time goes by. He has one of the worst ults in the game and has less presence than crystal maiden.

Random list of heroes that I think are too shitty/need a remake because they're boring or/and shitty:

Pudge
Omni
Huskar: wtf is this guy supposed to do.
Treant: my most hated hero of all time I think
Spiritbreaker: bad.
Troll: guarantees a low quality game
Seeker: fix his cast animation
Soul keeper: terribad
Leshrac: I can't imagine a single game where he would be the perfect pick. He's fragile as fuck and has shit cast animation on top of it. Rework his ult maybe.
Warlock: boring