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ChinaWhite
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom239 Posts
June 14 2011 19:57 GMT
#641
You cant engrave walls? I didn't realise that (I always build underground in the stone), that's a shame.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
June 14 2011 20:01 GMT
#642
On June 15 2011 04:57 ChinaWhite wrote:
You cant engrave walls? I didn't realise that (I always build underground in the stone), that's a shame.


Yeah the only thing you can do to up the worth of constructions is use better materials and blocks instead of rough stone.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 23:12:57
June 14 2011 23:04 GMT
#643
Ohhh my god giant badgers EVERYWHERE.

That's been 3 badger-related deaths this year.... T_T;

I need more hunters I guess

edit: Auuughh my poor smithy lost both his arms... He keeps trying to pick up equipment... but obviously he can't... LOL
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
June 14 2011 23:22 GMT
#644
On June 14 2011 09:52 naonao wrote:
So I started playing after reading this thread, doing well so far, but I'm stumped on how to mine adamantine since its basically in the middle of a magma sea . Any tips on how to get to it?


Watch out for the happy fun stuff though
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 15 2011 00:35 GMT
#645
The world above ground is perilous indeed... I'm starting to understand why dorfs always live underground, T_T;

Lost about 6 dorfs to badger attacks this year. Several children fell into ponds and drowned, (causing much dismay for their parents), and goblin thieves harass the poor "lesser" dorfs who aren't special enough to have houses inside the castle.

This is quite the fortress adventure so far.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
June 15 2011 00:59 GMT
#646
I dont know - I am in my third year and nothing happens :/
I had 4 goblin thieves that's all.
No ambushes, nothing. And I dont even get human caravans.
Even though on the embark screen all 4 civilizations showed up.
I also had only 1 strange mood so far.

Though I learned that putting 1 goblin prisoner to 1 military dwarf in full iron & a training weapon is much fun. 25 pages of combat log in one case The dwarf broke all the goblin's bones
(And he gained like 2000 xp ^^)

Sadly I dont have a good armourer yet - need moar stuff to venture into the deep!
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 15 2011 01:44 GMT
#647
[image loading]
An entire fortress above ground!

The walls of the keep need to rise a few more levels. It's really awkward trying to build walls though. I guess dorfs never invented scaffolding. Gotta build entire rings of floor for each level, which makes it look much less awesome.

Each little stone house holds roughly 6-7 dorfs. The larger building houses all of my workshops. Each house has beds on the 2nd floor, and a dining room in the ground floor. Each also has it's own little basement, usually serving as a stockpile of sorts. The workshop tower has a two-level basement, (breaking my rule of only digging one level), but I needed the space for workshops.

I'm not sure if I should work on a expanding the city walls to encompass the housing outside, or what. Perhaps I should make some skyscrapers? The immediate project will be the Manor inside the keep. Basically a giant fancy building which will house all my offices/nobles.

Wheeeee

Still having some horrid badger problems though lol
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
superxmikey
Profile Joined October 2010
United States28 Posts
June 15 2011 01:47 GMT
#648
Hey, Haemonculus

How did you get that picture thing? Is that a live representation of dwarf fortress via some modification or just a still image of your fortress?

If its a modification I would like to know what it is :D

PhuxPro
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States294 Posts
June 15 2011 02:11 GMT
#649
On June 15 2011 10:47 superxmikey wrote:
Hey, Haemonculus

How did you get that picture thing? Is that a live representation of dwarf fortress via some modification or just a still image of your fortress?

If its a modification I would like to know what it is :D



It's called StoneSense. It comes with the Lazy Newb Pack, which I would suggest downloading instead of just looking for Stonesense itself.
Money was meant solely to be spent.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 15 2011 03:45 GMT
#650
And now we're in dire need of a water source during winter...

Two injured dorfs died of thirst this winter because the wells all froze and we had no water source. T_T;
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
June 15 2011 03:50 GMT
#651
I'm extremely interested in this "above ground" style. I will look into this.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 05:45:30
June 15 2011 05:43 GMT
#652
On June 15 2011 12:50 N3rV[Green] wrote:
I'm extremely interested in this "above ground" style. I will look into this.


I've done it a bit before, I find it fun once you get going, but waiting for that point can be a little trying. Then again I'm OCD and like to have my constructions use only blocks rather than rough stone so I guess I have myself to blame.
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ChinaWhite
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom239 Posts
June 15 2011 09:18 GMT
#653
Looks great Haemonculus, look forard to seeing future updates!

Logo, is there actually any advantage to using blocks in constructions?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#654
Guys, after experimenting more with 2 hunters start, I think it's very good, it's mid summer of the second year and I already have two +5 legendary marksdwarves. I start with 1 woodcutter, 1 miner, 2 hunters, a bone carver, a cook and peasant who butchers/does everything else. Your industry starts later but you have someone to keep wildlife in check and hunting is the fastest way to train a marksmen. Also a great way to get legendary cook and bonecarver by 2nd year, which is imo very useful. Any thoughts about it? ^^
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 09:53:51
June 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#655
On June 15 2011 18:18 ChinaWhite wrote:
Looks great Haemonculus, look forard to seeing future updates!

Logo, is there actually any advantage to using blocks in constructions?


One thing I can think of is that then the material is definitely reserved for construction. But I think the material blocks are more relevant when making non-stone materials into building materials: they will be melted, or otherwise made, into blocks before they can be used to make constructions.
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 13:32:51
June 15 2011 11:12 GMT
#656
On June 15 2011 10:44 Haemonculus wrote:
The walls of the keep need to rise a few more levels. It's really awkward trying to build walls though. I guess dorfs never invented scaffolding. Gotta build entire rings of floor for each level, which makes it look much less awesome.

You can use stairs as scaffolding and then tear them back down once you're done constructing the walls.

My current fortress has it's entrance and defenses outside, walls, traps, fortifications for archers. It all worked pretty well until goblin archers appeared and climbed the mountain behind the walls -.-

*edit gah, 2 of my dwarves have just been beaten to death in their sleep with a crossbow, because of disorderly conduct and of course the violation of a production order. I thought a "beating" was supposed to be a non-lethal punishment.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:44:10
June 15 2011 14:25 GMT
#657
On June 15 2011 18:53 Greentellon wrote:
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On June 15 2011 18:18 ChinaWhite wrote:
Looks great Haemonculus, look forard to seeing future updates!

Logo, is there actually any advantage to using blocks in constructions?


One thing I can think of is that then the material is definitely reserved for construction. But I think the material blocks are more relevant when making non-stone materials into building materials: they will be melted, or otherwise made, into blocks before they can be used to make constructions.


If you make a room and it includes the construction the room is of higher quality as blocks have a higher quality than rough stone. It also says smooth stone when you look at it, it builds faster (barely an offset for the time it takes to make the block though), and adds more wealth to your fortress.

So no... not really. It's mostly just vanity. Though for your noble rooms I'd recommend it since you can't smooth/engrave constructions (well making it out of blocks is smoothing it I suppose).

It's also good training for your masons, I usually start by making a ton of blocks then move on to furniture and stuff with quality ratings. Of course on the flipside if you get ambushed by goblins before your walls are complete (as happened to me last night) the mason that gets killed kind of makes the training irrelevant.

Guys, after experimenting more with 2 hunters start, I think it's very good, it's mid summer of the second year and I already have two +5 legendary marksdwarves. I start with 1 woodcutter, 1 miner, 2 hunters, a bone carver, a cook and peasant who butchers/does everything else. Your industry starts later but you have someone to keep wildlife in check and hunting is the fastest way to train a marksmen. Also a great way to get legendary cook and bonecarver by 2nd year, which is imo very useful. Any thoughts about it? ^^


I like hunter starts, but it can be a bit risky. Accidents happen with your hunter especially if they're hunting things like badgers. I've both had badgers rush the hunter and overwhelm him as well as had an enraged badger attack a nearby non-hunter dwarf. Plus you need to be sure you are going to have a good amount of wildlife.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 15 2011 15:14 GMT
#658
Biggest advantage of blocks over rough stone imo is that you can store them in bins in bar/block stockpiles.

How dorfs manage to fit an entire castle wall into a small space is a miracle. But then again they already have quantum stockpiles of holding and atom smashers. Lololol
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
tjg92
Profile Joined March 2011
United States100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 22:04:51
June 15 2011 21:52 GMT
#659
Started playing this again last night. Everything is going swimmingly except one of my dwarves has a strange mood and I'm pretty sure I won't be able to competently handle the situation. Also last time I played there was no Lazy Newb Pack. Now there is. HOLY SHIT life is so much easier now.

EDIT:The strange mood dude managed to make his weird thingy so it's all good
The Maze Blog: http://mazeblog-tjg92.blogspot.com
protoge
Profile Joined January 2011
United States55 Posts
June 15 2011 22:45 GMT
#660
So I had a goblin ambush, killed 3 of my recruits (I had just drafted a bunch in, they were all dabbling in all fighting skills and I only had steel guantles for them xP)

I managed to capture a few of the goblins. How do I strip them down to train some of my other, nondead, recruits? I tried going and doing what the iwki said, but nothing shows up in the square besdies the filled cage. Is that normal or ?
It is estimated feeding the world's hungry would require 30 billion dollars per year. Quite the sum of money. It's actually the same amount of money that the world spends on it's military every 8 days.
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