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On October 27 2009 15:29 Trumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 14:29 A3iL3r0n wrote:
If I was going to get a console just for SF4, which would be the better one to get? PS3 or 360? PS3 is the cheaper console with no monthly fee and allowing your usb headset etc. The going theory is 360 is slightly better online. No idea how legitimate that is. What is legit is that 360 is the more popular system, so its more to easier to find 360 users than ps3, and there are usually more of them. If the slight price difference (~$40 a year for online) doesnt mean much to you and you don't care for other console games, 360 is usually the better bet. That said, when in that situation earlier this year I opted for ps3 for the stuff not named SF4. At first it may be just for SF4. After a while though you'll probably want to take advantage of your next gen system (for netflix, blu rays, popular games, streaming porn in your living room, etc.). Try to keep that in mind lol Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 15:14 anch wrote:On October 27 2009 14:29 A3iL3r0n wrote:
If I was going to get a console just for SF4, which would be the better one to get? PS3 or 360? If you dont want Xbox Live, get the 360. It can grant you other games. Just the controller will be horrid  On a cheap budget, get a used 360. That reminded me, if you plan on using the console controller, I'd get a ps3. Playstation controllers (d pads and button layout) are much better suited to fighters.
Yeah as someone who has SF4 for 360 and Blazblue for PS3, I'm definitely getting SSFIV for PS3 in the future.
It takes a while to get used to the 360 analog, but it works. PS3's dualshock's dpad is always better though. (a SE fightstick is only like $65 anyways, which is only slightly more than a regular extra gamepad).
XBL doesn't really have any noteworthy advantages that justify the $50/year subscription, and while it is the more popular console (in the U.S. at least) -- numbers have shown that fighting games still sell more on the PS3 -- but you'll find a roughly equal amount of people to play with on either console.
That's my 2 cents
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Valhalla18444 Posts
i got a stick finally
someone send me an invite for player matches, windows live id Ghoulfrost
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Hey FakeSteve you're in Singapore right?
If so, maybe we can play with decent ping 
I will add you, I am DisrobingPower
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On October 27 2009 15:49 eMbrace wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 15:29 Trumpet wrote:On October 27 2009 14:29 A3iL3r0n wrote:
If I was going to get a console just for SF4, which would be the better one to get? PS3 or 360? PS3 is the cheaper console with no monthly fee and allowing your usb headset etc. The going theory is 360 is slightly better online. No idea how legitimate that is. What is legit is that 360 is the more popular system, so its more to easier to find 360 users than ps3, and there are usually more of them. If the slight price difference (~$40 a year for online) doesnt mean much to you and you don't care for other console games, 360 is usually the better bet. That said, when in that situation earlier this year I opted for ps3 for the stuff not named SF4. At first it may be just for SF4. After a while though you'll probably want to take advantage of your next gen system (for netflix, blu rays, popular games, streaming porn in your living room, etc.). Try to keep that in mind lol On October 27 2009 15:14 anch wrote:On October 27 2009 14:29 A3iL3r0n wrote:
If I was going to get a console just for SF4, which would be the better one to get? PS3 or 360? If you dont want Xbox Live, get the 360. It can grant you other games. Just the controller will be horrid On a cheap budget, get a used 360. That reminded me, if you plan on using the console controller, I'd get a ps3. Playstation controllers (d pads and button layout) are much better suited to fighters. Yeah as someone who has SF4 for 360 and Blazblue for PS3, I'm definitely getting SSFIV for PS3 in the future. It takes a while to get used to the 360 analog, but it works. PS3's dualshock's dpad is always better though. (a SE fightstick is only like $65 anyways, which is only slightly more than a regular extra gamepad). XBL doesn't really have any noteworthy advantages that justify the $50/year subscription, and while it is the more popular console (in the U.S. at least) -- numbers have shown that fighting games still sell more on the PS3 -- but you'll find a roughly equal amount of people to play with on either console. That's my 2 cents
Thanks for all the replies! You've helped me decide to get a PS3.
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I've been trying to play my friend in SF4 for a few days now and we're having constant disconnect problems. This started after he formatted and switched to Windows 7, it worked fine when he was using Vista. The odd thing is that there are no problems when he joins a public game, it just starts acting up in private games. He has the steam version if it matters, this is driving me nuts.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
thanks for the games DBunny
are you decently good or am i just really bad
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GGs - I'm an above average player; I'll beat most players except for the big names locally. Online for me is a completely different game though, and when I do go online it's usually with people from my city. The pace is much slower I find, I throw like 1/3rd of the fireballs that I would if it was offline because they travel so slowly and I have to think about what I am going to do in advance because it's harder to react on demand online.
This is just general advice to everyone who plays online: to become a better player you need to react to what the other player is doing - it's good to have a loose gameplan but don't get tunnel vision where you focus on landing that damaging combo. It's like playing any competitive game, every game work on improving yourself instead of trying to beat your opponent. Yes things like jab DP in to jab DP might catch the guy every time but its only reinforcing a negative habit.
The better player will always choose the safe route, waiting to tech a throw after a block string is better than spamming for reversal DP. You need to stick out that wakeup AA from time to time to keep the guy on notice, but never rely on it. Never resort to random ultra when you are low on health, it's just free damage for your opponent.
Execution is really important, training mode is essential for learning all your important BnB combos and punishes. That being said, zoning and positioning is more important than combo execution. I can win 90% of my games by just fireballing and AA'ing the jump-in. Know your character's strengths and weaknesses and play accordingly. I don't know how to use Rog properly but can win most of my matches with c.jab, c.rh and his godly dash/walk-up throw.
Watching high level videos is really useful, this really is a completely different generation where streams and VODs are plentiful. Used to have to drive hours to big tournaments to learn what the newest shit was. Watching the americans play is probably more beneficial than watching the japanese, it's just more applicable. The japanese are so advanced that they are thinking of countering their opponents counter, and your average viewer misses all that. Just like in sc, it's good to copy high level players but you need to know why they are doing what they are. Daigo throws fireballs constantly but there is always a split second where he dares the opponent to do an unsafe jump over or try to punish what isn't coming. His knowledge of the game is so good that he knows by the opponents movements whether or not he has held charge for long enough to do anything, or if they will be quick enough ultra on reaction to his fireball. What appears to be psychic DPs is actually a calculated guess that an opponent will react a certain way.
This game is just about outsmarting your opponent and being a step ahead of him. If sc is just fast-paced chess with high apm, fighters = blitz chess with reaction time.
I'll post a bit more tomorrow on specific sf4 techniques to bring your game to the next level.
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On October 29 2009 08:38 A3iL3r0n wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 15:49 eMbrace wrote:On October 27 2009 15:29 Trumpet wrote:On October 27 2009 14:29 A3iL3r0n wrote:
If I was going to get a console just for SF4, which would be the better one to get? PS3 or 360? PS3 is the cheaper console with no monthly fee and allowing your usb headset etc. The going theory is 360 is slightly better online. No idea how legitimate that is. What is legit is that 360 is the more popular system, so its more to easier to find 360 users than ps3, and there are usually more of them. If the slight price difference (~$40 a year for online) doesnt mean much to you and you don't care for other console games, 360 is usually the better bet. That said, when in that situation earlier this year I opted for ps3 for the stuff not named SF4. At first it may be just for SF4. After a while though you'll probably want to take advantage of your next gen system (for netflix, blu rays, popular games, streaming porn in your living room, etc.). Try to keep that in mind lol On October 27 2009 15:14 anch wrote:On October 27 2009 14:29 A3iL3r0n wrote:
If I was going to get a console just for SF4, which would be the better one to get? PS3 or 360? If you dont want Xbox Live, get the 360. It can grant you other games. Just the controller will be horrid On a cheap budget, get a used 360. That reminded me, if you plan on using the console controller, I'd get a ps3. Playstation controllers (d pads and button layout) are much better suited to fighters. Yeah as someone who has SF4 for 360 and Blazblue for PS3, I'm definitely getting SSFIV for PS3 in the future. It takes a while to get used to the 360 analog, but it works. PS3's dualshock's dpad is always better though. (a SE fightstick is only like $65 anyways, which is only slightly more than a regular extra gamepad). XBL doesn't really have any noteworthy advantages that justify the $50/year subscription, and while it is the more popular console (in the U.S. at least) -- numbers have shown that fighting games still sell more on the PS3 -- but you'll find a roughly equal amount of people to play with on either console. That's my 2 cents Thanks for all the replies! You've helped me decide to get a PS3.
Good choice, Demon's Souls is crazy :O PS3 is pretty pimp, I would never buy a 360 at this point in time, it's too old pretty much.
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I wish I would of gotten a PS3 instead of a 360 honestly .
Btw nice read DBunny
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On October 27 2009 14:29 A3iL3r0n wrote:
If I was going to get a console just for SF4, which would be the better one to get? PS3 or 360?
For other games, I'm not really sure, but for SF4 in USA definately the 360. Majority of the top players in USA are on 360. I played against Alex Valle several time on SF4 online. Justin Wong, Marn, etc are all on 360. PS3 has known lag issue in SF4 relative to 360. For lag issues, check shoryuken.com forums (site for capcom fighters) or ask people on IRC #capcom channel on EFNET server. Before you spend $300, it wouldn't hurt to check those places especially the #capcom chat channel. If you plan to play SF4 casually then it probably doesn't matter which system.
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On October 30 2009 02:38 zizou21 wrote:...
As some have noted, that input might just work in sf4 lolll
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On October 30 2009 02:38 zizou21 wrote:...
/facepalm
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On October 29 2009 14:21 DBunny wrote:
This is just general advice to everyone
I like this advice. : ]
It's really key for players trying to improve to think about what they can do to consistently damage their opponent and to be smart/patient.
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On October 30 2009 02:44 Trumpet wrote:
As some have noted, that input might just work in sf4 lolll
shouldn't, the input leniency works like this: Any forward, any down, any forward.
so, 623 works, 919 works, 323 (crouch shoryu trick) works, but 263 (like on the dumbass's arm) does not
edit: LOL that guy has the same laptop as me
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You can just double tap 33 to do any srk move in sf4
btw, When SS4 comes out can we make a new thread?
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On October 30 2009 05:57 CharlieMurphy wrote:
You can just double tap 33 to do any srk move in sf4
btw, When SS4 comes out can we make a new thread?
33 doesn't work. Try it in the PC version. It only appears to work in the console version because you're hitting forward or down in addition to down-forward. 263 works though, I've done it.
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On October 30 2009 02:44 Trumpet wrote:As some have noted, that input might just work in sf4 lolll
lulz
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On October 30 2009 06:01 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2009 05:57 CharlieMurphy wrote:
You can just double tap 33 to do any srk move in sf4
btw, When SS4 comes out can we make a new thread? 33 doesn't work. Try it in the PC version. It only appears to work in the console version because you're hitting forward or down in addition to down-forward. 263 works though, I've done it.
no, it works because I read it on eventhubs and then I used it to complete the sagat trials which I could not do without it.
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