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Jeremy Reimer
Canada1139 Posts
On May 08 2026 08:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: let's start a hard mode campaign speed running league guys! Boy, am I ever glad i didn't listen to Beomulf's advice and waste even $1 on this game. We are SO back! ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/8SeWrpN.png) | ||
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ChillFlame
263 Posts
Sometimes, I just want to harm people. Let's assume he has no affiliation with the devs. Let's also assume his channel metrics aren't tied to the game, so he has no financial incentive. We know this guy knows the real state of the game. Yet he decides to ignore it to sell the fake hype. It's good that the video has 4k views. It could deceive a lot more people. The game and the company would still shut down, but more people would give their money to help Tim1 pay off his debts and avoid consequences. It's not illegal or anything. It is what reputation is for. If we don't discard our premises, he is just a freelance scam specialist. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17502 Posts
That's a bit extreme. Only spend money you can afford to throw away. Think of it like going into an expensive IMAX movie with no idea about what you are about to see. My wife went on a work trip to Florida the week Diablo4 came out. Alone with my own thoughts one night I bought Diablo4. What a dumb move. I've played it for 2 hours. LOLOLOL. I'd rather hang out with Beomulf and figure out what brought him to the point in his life where he needs to sell his soul for 50 twitch viewers. If Beomulf were depressed about his failed RTS broadcasting career and he needed a hug... I'd give the guy a hug.  On May 08 2026 18:25 ChillFlame wrote: If we don't discard our premises, he is just a freelance scam specialist. Video game promotion is a 3 ring circus and Beomulf is just one of the clowns. meh. | ||
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ChillFlame
263 Posts
On May 08 2026 21:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote: That's a bit extreme. Only spend money you can afford to throw away. Think of it like going into an expensive IMAX movie with no idea about what you are about to see. My wife went on a work trip to Florida the week Diablo4 came out. Alone with my own thoughts one night I bought Diablo4. What a dumb move. I've played it for 2 hours. LOLOLOL. I'd rather hang out with Beomulf and figure out what brought him to the point in his life where he needs to sell his soul for 50 twitch viewers. If Beomulf were depressed about his failed RTS broadcasting career and he needed a hug... I'd give the guy a hug. Video game promotion is a 3 ring circus and Beomulf is just one of the clowns. meh. Yeah, I agree with your points. I am looking at this from the point of a big RTS enjoyer. The less controversial/scummy events surround the RTS environment, the more likely a good RTS will get money for development. With FG wasting "the biggest RTS kickstarter" money, and ~$42m from investors its significantly less likely for any other game to get a comparable budget in the future. It's like he aimed to close all of the sources of revenue for other devs: players, small investors, VC, and publishers. I would be better if Tim gave up, everyone forgot about his game, and after 5 years or so, someone competent could make a good game. But no, he and his ghoul clowns keep dragging it and reminding everyone of themselves. | ||
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ChillFlame
263 Posts
BaR might be the most innovative RTS of all time, and it takes them like $30k of donation money per year. https://www.beyondallreason.info/news/2024-financial-report-and-fundraiser | ||
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Jeremy Reimer
Canada1139 Posts
On May 08 2026 18:25 ChillFlame wrote: Sometimes, I just want to harm people. Let's assume he has no affiliation with the devs. Let's also assume his channel metrics aren't tied to the game, so he has no financial incentive. We know this guy knows the real state of the game. Yet he decides to ignore it to sell the fake hype. It's good that the video has 4k views. It could deceive a lot more people. The game and the company would still shut down, but more people would give their money to help Tim1 pay off his debts and avoid consequences. It's not illegal or anything. It is what reputation is for. If we don't discard our premises, he is just a freelance scam specialist. I think that's a little harsh. I find Beomulf to be less of a scammer and more of a wide-eyed optimist. He, like many others, thought Stormgate would take off, and he wanted to ride that hype train. He wanted to be the Tastosis of Stormgate. Even today he claims that the only problem with Frost Giant was that they had scoped the game too widely, based on an assumption that they would receive another giant round of fundraising. Which is like, my guy, they raised $44 million. That in itself was a miracle. In no universe would they ever have raised more than that, so just assuming that they would was stupid and foolish. Tim Morten claims that Starcraft II cost $150 million to develop, which is a figure not backed by reality, but even if it was true (or even if you believed it) why would you spend as if you had three times as much money as you were ever going to get? Who makes plans like this? The whole "Stormgate is SO back" thing is even more bizarre. Somehow, through the power of friendship and people donating their time, Stormgate is going to succeed now, even though it already failed spectacularly, because NOW... <checks notes>... you added a couple of new units to 1v1 and did a balance patch? Just now on Discord, someone posted: The community effort here is enormous and beyond praiseworthy. I just wish Frost Giant hadn't shut down so soon after launch. Who knows what could have happened if they'd stayed the course Like, the only problem was that Frost Giant didn't keep trying? It doesn't matter if you owe $2 million to the bank and you have no money. Just "stay the course" people! Like Frost Giant is some sort of ship that they just stopped steering? If Frost Giant was a ship, it's one that exploded on launch, and everybody drowned except for Tim Morten, who is clinging to a bit of wood and frantically trying to grab a bunch of pieces, thinking he can somehow put it back together again. | ||
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ChillFlame
263 Posts
On May 08 2026 23:05 Jeremy Reimer wrote: I think that's a little harsh. I find Beomulf to be less of a scammer and more of a wide-eyed optimist. He, like many others, thought Stormgate would take off, and he wanted to ride that hype train. He wanted to be the Tastosis of Stormgate. Yeah, I am just a bit angry. He is not a scammer, he just tries to get revenue by highlighting a game that's filled with unethical and deceiving decisions. When you do something like this as a content creator, you always risk. People might bring their anger they feel for the game to you personally. Or just silently drop. Optimism is cute, but by casting a shit show, you might face some splashes. Personally, I'd stay away from this game and studio after the KS controversies, even more after Tim's fake review episode. He made his decision, and he will face the consequences, just like Tim will. | ||
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crablogic
16 Posts
This is just the weirdest mix of: - Shady behavior: astroturfing, that weird GearUp Booster - Outright dishonesty: "Funded til release", SC2 is "our prior product" - Carelessness: confusing packaging/pricing of the different tiers - Financial mismanagement: $1.1M per month burn rate - Product mismanagement: basically nothing about the game was adequate But also: - Sincerity: Morten's "loan" to the company; adding "Slogo", a fan who died of cancer, as a plot point in the campaign - Talent: Again, the amount of money and attention Morten generated relative to the actual quality of the product is astounding I guess that's what keeps it so interesting. | ||
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ChillFlame
263 Posts
On May 09 2026 00:56 crablogic wrote: Morten's specialty is business maneuvering, so if StormGate was a scam, he'd be smart enough to keep quiet after he pulled it off, not argue about it with his victims on LinkedIn. This is just the weirdest mix of: - Shady behavior: astroturfing, that weird GearUp Booster - Outright dishonesty: "Funded til release", SC2 is "our prior product" - Carelessness: confusing packaging/pricing of the different tiers - Financial mismanagement: $1.1M per month burn rate - Product mismanagement: basically nothing about the game was adequate But also: - Sincerity: Morten's "loan" to the company; adding "Slogo", a fan who died of cancer, as a plot point in the campaign - Talent: Again, the amount of money and attention Morten generated relative to the actual quality of the product is astounding I guess that's what keeps it so interesting. Well, my opinion of Tim aside, I think he really tried to make "the next big RTS" and "SC killer". He just wasn't good enough to do so. So SG wasn't INTENDED to be a scam. When he started to understand he wasn't gonna make it (I think it was like half a year before the EA release), he tried to the full extent of his abilities to fix the situation. Turns out the full extent of his abilities didn't include funding management, feedback gathering, or decision making. But the pretty list of things listed in your comment. By resorting to deliberate misinformation, gaslighting, sockpuppeting/astroturfing, publishing fake financial information, etc, he turned an honest failure SG was into a scam. IMO, it doesn't matter if he tried or even gave his personal money to the company (he got from players and investors anyway), if he turned the game into a scam. P.S. Believe it or not, I defend Tim almost every time I speak with my brother. He is even angrier than me, and thinks SG was a money laundering project right from the start. This idea doesn't get along with the fact-check very well. That's why I defend Tim :D | ||
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Jeremy Reimer
Canada1139 Posts
On May 09 2026 00:56 crablogic wrote: Morten's specialty is business maneuvering, so if StormGate was a scam, he'd be smart enough to keep quiet after he pulled it off, not argue about it with his victims on LinkedIn. This is just the weirdest mix of: - Shady behavior: astroturfing, that weird GearUp Booster - Outright dishonesty: "Funded til release", SC2 is "our prior product" - Carelessness: confusing packaging/pricing of the different tiers - Financial mismanagement: $1.1M per month burn rate - Product mismanagement: basically nothing about the game was adequate But also: - Sincerity: Morten's "loan" to the company; adding "Slogo", a fan who died of cancer, as a plot point in the campaign - Talent: Again, the amount of money and attention Morten generated relative to the actual quality of the product is astounding I guess that's what keeps it so interesting. The whole thing is so fascinating to me, like a complicated Rube Goldberg-style train wreck. I can't look away. This latest data dump from the SEC filing answered a bunch of questions and then just raised a whole lot more. The saga just never ends! | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17502 Posts
we can always relive the timeless memories Stormgate gave the world of video games. | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5460 Posts
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ChillFlame
263 Posts
On May 09 2026 10:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote: https://stormgatenexus.com/ no longer works. we can always relive the timeless memories Stormgate gave the world of video games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdZbUfGAhT0 https://www.twitch.tv/tastelesstv/clip/CogentCourageousJackalNotATK-_XxWjDZZqoCP8yCg My favourite one :D | ||
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