Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread - Page 240

On July 19 2025 14:41 Gorsameth wrote:
being forced to release it cause of potential financial troubles doesn't mean its finished

On July 21 2025 21:09 Bacillus wrote:
Over time I've seen quite a bit of talk about tier 3 'coming soon'. Did some of it actually get added at some point? On the roadmap most of it seems to be 'in the future' while there are videos of tier 3 units from a year ago already.

I know stuff takes time, there's a lot of elements that have to click together and in general developing a game isn't easy, but it feels surprising how long it has taken to add more already planned units to the tech tree. At this point you'd think they have a lot of experience and most of the underlying structure and toolset in place to speed up the process compared to the existing tech tree.

The reworks on existing systems have probably taken resources and they've probably had to downsize quite a bit, but it still feels off to me. Especially now that they're dropping the early access tag, you'd want to see at least some kind of rough overall structure of gameplay.

On July 24 2025 03:14 TelecoM wrote:
How's game balance / ladder / player count now on ladder?

On July 24 2025 17:42 Bacillus wrote:
Currently 12 infernals and 2 vanguards in top 20 rankings. I guess the top level balance is a bit all over the place at least.

I'm not a big advocate of staring at balance numbers when the whole game is still incomplete though. The more interesting bit is if the game allows players to do viable and interesting stuff. I'll take a varied and skill intense 65-35 over a mundane 55-45 on predetermined tracks anytime, anywhere.

As far as I've understood, the current matchmaking is configured not to be too picky on the matches. You'll usually find matches pretty fast - at least considering the playercount - but the skill level of the opponents varies quite a bit. Probably a smart move at least in current state of the game, we'll see how it goes when the release spikes hit.

Edit: Some crazy win rates and streaks on that leaderboard. Not sure what's going on in there, probably better take that one with a grain of salt unless there's some good explanation.

On July 24 2025 20:33 CicadaSC wrote:

thats all from 0.4 mostly as they never reset the leaderboards, but yeah your point still stands and the game had been wildly imbalanced at certain points but they nerfed brute, the main issue in 0.4. some still complain about balance issues the community but not as extreme as before unless u consider dragon cloning and certain cheese rushes but that will all probably get patched in 0.6 and hopefully 1v1 will be in a good state.

On July 27 2025 17:51 Agh wrote:


I still think they should go the route of testing the production charges for all races suggestion, or at least someone should make a map to test when the editor allows it.

On July 27 2025 18:50 CicadaSC wrote:

It reminds me of elden ring. no difficulty slider- but if you want easy mode, use summons. Perhaps they are trying to do something like that but for RTS and infernals.

On July 27 2025 19:57 Agh wrote:
I mean that's what the current version of infernal is, you just sit on production and make sure you're not at capped charges.

Getting attacked or stormgate spawning? Press key, get units.
Tier 2? Even better, use ability, get 3 units.

I don't think I've ever seen an all or nothing angle like that before, make it baseline or remove it. Otherwise the only way you balance it is by giving them the sc2 protoss gateway unit treatment and that isn't an appealing option for anyone.


With smaller maps it gives the advantage of being able to be insanely safer expanding compared to the other two races. And once we inevitably get out of the shoebox map size you run into the issue of production at each base for the best harassment defense.

On July 27 2025 21:05 WombaT wrote:

Is this as broken, or at least as frustrating as it sounds?

On July 27 2025 22:22 Agh wrote:


The best mental image I can paint is more or less a sc2 warpgate, except each unit stacks up to 3 and there isn't a warp-in time it just builds instantly. And it's for every unit, not just tier 1. (even the 'hero' dragon unit builds instantly)

So yeah, I'll let you form your opinion based on that.

Only thing that makes it even remotely acceptable is that the game pace is fast enough that it somewhat blends in.

I'm fine with the reverse/instant production but why does it go past a single charge, much less up to 3? Maybe add a tier 3 upgrade that increases it, but not baseline.