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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-30 03:15:29
September 30 2021 03:12 GMT
#41
Had a lot of fun during the brief stress test. Fortunately, I have xbox ultimate game pass, so it will be free for me day 1.

Lots of potential to upgrade visuals, though. I couldn't tell half my buildings apart from each other and had to regularly click units to see if they had been upgraded from hardened to veteran to elite. Units need to be much more easily discernable from one another.

EDIT: Latham on prior page already gave feedback on all of this with visuals, so essentially just repeating his sentiments here.
_SSSylas
Profile Joined October 2021
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-01 13:12:02
October 01 2021 12:34 GMT
#42
Hey guys
The game has a very old AOE2 matchmaking system, it's sad for a potentials AOE4 E-sport.
We need to push things out about the AOE4 matchmaking where you can see the Map before choosing your civ this is not good for balancing the game and competitive play overall.

I made a thread on Reddit about the ranking matchmaking, trying to push Dev in this direction to not be able to choose your civ after seeing the map but before!
Here the thread on Reddit

and also on the official AOE4 forum here
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 02 2021 05:19 GMT
#43
There was a showmatch between England and Holy Roman Empire today. Here is the link for those curious:
When I think of something else, something will go here
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
October 02 2021 21:15 GMT
#44
Was a fun match definitely, however, I would like to see the civs I couldn't test out in the beta myself. French, Mongols, Delhi Sultanate and more of Rus.
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Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-03 18:07:03
October 03 2021 17:15 GMT
#45
On October 01 2021 21:34 _SSSylas wrote:
Hey guys
The game has a very old AOE2 matchmaking system, it's sad for a potentials AOE4 E-sport.
We need to push things out about the AOE4 matchmaking where you can see the Map before choosing your civ this is not good for balancing the game and competitive play overall.

I made a thread on Reddit about the ranking matchmaking, trying to push Dev in this direction to not be able to choose your civ after seeing the map but before!
Here the thread on Reddit

and also on the official AOE4 forum here


Hey Sylas! I saw ur posts in other places already, but Ill reply here curious about it.

I get ur point about seeing the map and being able to change it, but in AoE it might be necessary because of the imbalances of the civs. For Example Mongols will be heavily disadvantaged on a map like Black Forest that is so easily wallable. Being forced to play as certain civs on every map in that game would kinda suck. The game isnt like Starcraft where the maps are always the same and tried to be balanced for every civ. Some civs are gonna be just the best on water and others will be the best on open land and others will be the best in maps with lots of choke points. To me it will make players better because they have to change their civ based on maps and be more diverse. The weaker players who just play 1 civ constantly will be disadvantaged by the map though.


Edit: Huge news here also
ALSO
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_SSSylas
Profile Joined October 2021
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-04 13:48:51
October 04 2021 13:19 GMT
#46
More the Game will be competitive on the ladder and more you will see mirror matches on the ladder if people want to reach the top.

It's better when players/data want to play one civ/race because they like the uniqueness of the civ/race and try their best on every map and ask for balance change/data prove than play the best civ on each map.

Also if some tournament wants to seed some top player from the ladder it will be the same as AOE4 Genesis tournament

if it stays like this it will not be good for the game. overall on twitch, or for players in the Ranked matchmaking system

AOE4 is not AOE2 and will never be

1 - AOE2 has 39 symmetric civ with bonus who make it impossible to balance because they have the same mechanic its 20years game with no different mechanic to compensate.

2 - AOE4 have 8 Asymmetric civs, who make tools to make it more balanced than AOE4 has some units who have different stats and have completely different Eco mechanic.



In AOE3 AOM AOE:O SC1 SC2 have are played like this because they have asymmetric civs design.

Sorry but I am pretty sure it will change in the future but I don’t want to wait for 3-6 months before it comes because I think they gonna be slow as I remember AOE3 and AOM release
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1015 Posts
October 05 2021 07:40 GMT
#47
Played some during the stress test. Definitely enjoyed it, though coming from StarCraft, games feel long and the units aren't very responsive.

Managing the complex economy felt fun and to give a lot of options.

Would be fun to get into a new RTS on release, and get to help figure out the meta.
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 05 2021 11:15 GMT
#48
I'm craving for a new RTS, really looking towards the roller coaster which is early meta development.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
VelRa_G
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada304 Posts
October 05 2021 18:36 GMT
#49
First time I'm very excited for a new RTS release since AoE2 DE!
Nuda Veritas
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-09 09:42:32
October 09 2021 07:09 GMT
#50


+ Show Spoiler +
Mongols look extremely unique and fun, too bad they were up against Camel Archer civ, which directly counters their Mangudai, so the Mongol player didn't even bother to make any.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-11 04:51:36
October 10 2021 00:19 GMT
#51
On October 09 2021 16:09 Latham wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyKWfHB7mzI

+ Show Spoiler +
Mongols look extremely unique and fun, too bad they were up against Camel Archer civ, which directly counters their Mangudai, so the Mongol player didn't even bother to make any.


The player didnt show mongols very well sadly. I'd say mongols should feel very similiar to Zerg, but this player was doing so many things wrong it just looked bad. It's the most different of the civs so I don't blame him for not getting it very well. It's by far my favourite civ to play and It felt very strong to me. Here's a guide for Mongols if anyone is interested in some better info on Mongols.

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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
October 16 2021 00:27 GMT
#52


Finally we get to see French in action, they seemed to be the most veiled in secrecy faction of them all before this week.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
October 16 2021 02:50 GMT
#53
The game looks really good!
John 15:13
essentos
Profile Joined October 2021
1 Post
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 11:01:57
October 16 2021 09:13 GMT
#54
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MiB
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden325 Posts
October 16 2021 13:51 GMT
#55
The game looks really good!
How do I shape water.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-18 18:47:46
October 17 2021 11:58 GMT
#56
The game is awesome. There a lot of things that needs to be improved upon post launch but since SC2 is not patched any more and left in in Protoss Air meta I will switch to Age of Empires 4.

It was a long time I had this much fun with a RTS. SC2 has started to feel like more a chore than fun so the timing could not have been better.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1584 Posts
October 17 2021 20:10 GMT
#57
I didn't play the beta but it looks fun
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
October 23 2021 07:25 GMT
#58


And yet another showmatch, this time featuring the Delhi Sultanate and the Rus. A pretty good one, with lots of back and forth action. On top of that, we get to see ELEPHANTOS, Battle Monks and Strelski.

The next showmatch is on Wednesday the 27th and it will be a 2v2. Just before the global release on the 28th.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 24 2021 05:50 GMT
#59
Rus are definitely going to be one of my main civilizations. They look really fun. 5 more days until release and I can't wait!
When I think of something else, something will go here
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
October 25 2021 03:07 GMT
#60
On October 24 2021 14:50 blade55555 wrote:
Rus are definitely going to be one of my main civilizations. They look really fun. 5 more days until release and I can't wait!

Oh hey I see you here too blade! Yeah It's crazy the wait is almost over. Wish I was a part of the super secret beta that
is probably starting in a few hours. Lots of people gonna be streaming AoE4 and I just have to watch
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