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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9576 Posts
November 14 2021 16:08 GMT
#181
LMAO the packed deer stones got surrounded and destroyed. Now they're permanently gone xD
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
November 14 2021 16:11 GMT
#182
Both SC2 and AOE4 have a major tournament going on right now.
The difference is that AOE4 has twice as many viewers.
Not bad for game that was not even made for e-sports.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-14 16:19:35
November 14 2021 16:17 GMT
#183
On November 15 2021 01:08 Latham wrote:
LMAO the packed deer stones got surrounded and destroyed. Now they're permanently gone xD

waga said on his stream that you can rebuild them on the spot they got sniped.

What i dislike in spectator mode is that you can see if the game has ended when on delay due to the top right corner showing game length.
passive quaranstream fan
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-14 16:56:39
November 14 2021 16:48 GMT
#184
On November 15 2021 01:11 MockHamill wrote:
Both SC2 and AOE4 have a major tournament going on right now.
The difference is that AOE4 has twice as many viewers.
Not bad for game that was not even made for e-sports.


Sure about that? I would assume the viewer numbers for the tournament numbers are about equal. There are just more streamers streaming AoE 4 without any reference to the tournament. Which is to be expected because of how new the game is.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
November 14 2021 17:16 GMT
#185
On November 15 2021 01:48 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 01:11 MockHamill wrote:
Both SC2 and AOE4 have a major tournament going on right now.
The difference is that AOE4 has twice as many viewers.
Not bad for game that was not even made for e-sports.


Sure about that? I would assume the viewer numbers for the tournament numbers are about equal. There are just more streamers streaming AoE 4 without any reference to the tournament. Which is to be expected because of how new the game is.


https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Age of Empires IV
92.3k viewers

All the large streams are for the tournament.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 14 2021 17:17 GMT
#186
The AoE scene is filled with Fantasy's gg timing enjoyers.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
November 14 2021 17:57 GMT
#187
On November 15 2021 02:17 nojok wrote:
The AoE scene is filled with Fantasy's gg timing enjoyers.

I think that in general it is easier to make a comeback in AoE than it is in StarCraft so it's not entirely without merit. There are also fewer ways to determine your current position vs. your opponent's because of fewer scouting mechanics/units (and a bit less scouting done in the lategame overall from what I've seen, save for when in AoE2 people go mass cav harassment).
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 14 2021 18:17 GMT
#188
On November 15 2021 02:57 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 02:17 nojok wrote:
The AoE scene is filled with Fantasy's gg timing enjoyers.

I think that in general it is easier to make a comeback in AoE than it is in StarCraft so it's not entirely without merit. There are also fewer ways to determine your current position vs. your opponent's because of fewer scouting mechanics/units (and a bit less scouting done in the lategame overall from what I've seen, save for when in AoE2 people go mass cav harassment).

It can happen in case the disparity in late game knowledge between the 2 players is huge, which is still the case like shown in + Show Spoiler +
Hera vs Recon
. The gg timings should become better later.

Springals, and artillery in general, should not get the bonus movespeed from mongols' towers. I also hope springals' efficiency against non artillery units is greatly reduced. Mongols already 4 0 today.

"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
November 14 2021 18:42 GMT
#189
Some things in this game seem just stupid.

I mean Reapers kill a queen slowly but they will do it eventually. But having 1000 archers and not even scratching a Ram seems ... just bad
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
November 14 2021 18:57 GMT
#190
On November 15 2021 03:42 Harris1st wrote:
Some things in this game seem just stupid.

I mean Reapers kill a queen slowly but they will do it eventually. But having 1000 archers and not even scratching a Ram seems ... just bad


That is more or less what would happen in real life. Arrows do nothing against Rams. It is like 100 guys with knifes trying to take down a tank. Does not work.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 14 2021 19:04 GMT
#191
On November 15 2021 03:42 Harris1st wrote:
Some things in this game seem just stupid.

I mean Reapers kill a queen slowly but they will do it eventually. But having 1000 archers and not even scratching a Ram seems ... just bad


That's how it should be, otherwise rams would suck. It's also realistic to real life as another poster mentioned.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 14 2021 19:13 GMT
#192
there's incendiary rounds or whatever it's called for amping the damage
passive quaranstream fan
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9576 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-14 19:26:25
November 14 2021 19:25 GMT
#193
On November 15 2021 04:13 Artisreal wrote:
there's incendiary rounds or whatever it's called for amping the damage


That's a university tech, needs Imperial Age (Age IV) at which point, rams are a non-factor, it will be all cannons as far as siege goes.

In AoE2 rams were very simular, in fact they had a staggering 180 ranged armor. What you needed to deal with them were melee units or mangonels. They were however also, very much slower than their AoE4 counterparts. Here they are a threat from Feudal (Age II) onwards and well into Castle Age (age III)
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9576 Posts
November 14 2021 21:24 GMT
#194
Damn, France vs Mongols seems like the most entertaining match-up to watch. The OP-ness of both civs cancels itself out.
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thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
November 14 2021 21:51 GMT
#195
Definitely agree they're the most entertaining match-up, Mongols are my favourite by a mile. Also I think we need another word for OP-ness...it just sounds like...uhem wrong to me. xD
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
November 14 2021 21:55 GMT
#196
Clutch ass worker pull to snipe springalds. Nice
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-14 22:13:19
November 14 2021 22:06 GMT
#197
On November 15 2021 02:16 MockHamill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 01:48 Swisslink wrote:
On November 15 2021 01:11 MockHamill wrote:
Both SC2 and AOE4 have a major tournament going on right now.
The difference is that AOE4 has twice as many viewers.
Not bad for game that was not even made for e-sports.


Sure about that? I would assume the viewer numbers for the tournament numbers are about equal. There are just more streamers streaming AoE 4 without any reference to the tournament. Which is to be expected because of how new the game is.


https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Age of Empires IV
92.3k viewers

All the large streams are for the tournament.


I believe the largest stream was unrelated to the tournament. I didn't look at it closely but it was showing matches with multiple players, not 1v1, and it ended before the finals.

E: It was a french streamer named "ZeratoR".
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 14 2021 22:35 GMT
#198
On November 15 2021 07:06 Kalera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 02:16 MockHamill wrote:
On November 15 2021 01:48 Swisslink wrote:
On November 15 2021 01:11 MockHamill wrote:
Both SC2 and AOE4 have a major tournament going on right now.
The difference is that AOE4 has twice as many viewers.
Not bad for game that was not even made for e-sports.


Sure about that? I would assume the viewer numbers for the tournament numbers are about equal. There are just more streamers streaming AoE 4 without any reference to the tournament. Which is to be expected because of how new the game is.


https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Age of Empires IV
92.3k viewers

All the large streams are for the tournament.


I believe the largest stream was unrelated to the tournament. I didn't look at it closely but it was showing matches with multiple players, not 1v1, and it ended before the finals.

E: It was a french streamer named "ZeratoR".

Yeah he is the biggest "twitcher" in France and he had a showmatch going on at Grand Rex, Paris. Mlord was supposed to be there but couldn't because of DH in sc2 and Genesis in AoE4. There were SC2 french streamers Koka and Funka participating though.
Also since the game is brand new, there is the novelty factor that brings viewers, I doubt it will be the same in a few months
WriterMaru
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
November 15 2021 00:09 GMT
#199
interesting finals. probably not that exciting to watch if you don't play but we'll see.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-15 01:06:30
November 15 2021 01:00 GMT
#200
I enjoyed the finals but it seemed like TheViper was playing at a different level. Knowing all the counters and adapting perfectly to the evolving game state in realtime.

P.S: Is there not going to be a dedicated forum for AoE4 on tl? The game is booming.
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