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{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
August 17 2007 02:33 GMT
#401
fanboy
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 17 2007 02:49 GMT
#402
Strafe, what server do you play on?
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 17 2007 02:56 GMT
#403
europe fo sho
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-17 06:11:38
August 17 2007 05:59 GMT
#404
Currently, after the recent map optimizations greater bash now works on images. Just get a Manta Style and have fun It also had it's countermeasure to spamming stop removed, so this one will practically make you proc greater bash much more often(but you won't be doing your normal attack damage, just the emporing haste and greater bash damage).
These are gonna be dealt with in the next version ofc(although the stop spam for all heroes that have triggered activating at the start of an attack abilities currently has no 100% solution, but it will be enough of a fix)
I'll call Nada.
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 29 2007 07:08 GMT
#405
Hm, what do you guys think about tide and sand king?

On Tide, I figure:

-dagger to better place ult (not really sure since the AoE is...fucking huge)
-hyperstone (higher number of AoE attack procs/sec.)
-vanguard?

on SK I always go dagger for his ult, but I'm thinking a BKB is in order? Otherwise in group battles people know to stun you when you blink/stun them.

BTW, I always go dual bracer/basilius on heroes that those two. I generally go basilius on any melee hero with a spammable, like gush or SK's...stun thingy.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
August 29 2007 07:18 GMT
#406
i used to get basilius a looooooot
but now i just get a bottle -_- same shit but useful throughout the entire game

imo, bkb is too expensive just for your ult since it keeps going even if you die anyway ;p
id rather go for a heart or something :d
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-29 07:27:35
August 29 2007 07:26 GMT
#407
Vanguard on Tide -> NO, only one damage block skill can proc per hit, they don't stack, so you'll get ~5 more damage reduction on average, which is useless, since you'll already reduce the creeps damage to 1 and it ain't exactly cost effective considering your other options against hero damage. Getting multiple vanguards is also quite ineffective on any hero.
I'll call Nada.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4918 Posts
August 29 2007 07:54 GMT
#408
On August 29 2007 16:08 rpf wrote:
Hm, what do you guys think about tide and sand king?

On Tide, I figure:

-dagger to better place ult (not really sure since the AoE is...fucking huge)
-hyperstone (higher number of AoE attack procs/sec.)
-vanguard?

on SK I always go dagger for his ult, but I'm thinking a BKB is in order? Otherwise in group battles people know to stun you when you blink/stun them.

BTW, I always go dual bracer/basilius on heroes that those two. I generally go basilius on any melee hero with a spammable, like gush or SK's...stun thingy.


DoE is a good item if you can afford it for escape purposes, or, when you need to jump into the heat of battle and interrupt like 2-3 channeling spells (With Tide I mean). And yes, 2 bracer, BoT, DoE, BKB is a very common bo. on Sand King.

Lately, I've been playing a lot with Anub'Arak (Nerubian Assasin). I found this build to be very viable (my friend told me the basics about him). Ring of Basi, then 3 circlets into Nulls, BoT or Treads (depends on if I need the atk. speed or not), then Perseverance -> Battle Fury. This makes you an excellent early gamer, if you pick a lane with an opponent that needs his mana to be good, you can pretty much screw him over entirely with this regen you get.

When I play with my friend, he picks Ezalor to support me with Chakra, then I don't need to buy Basi, and open with 3 Circlets. He can be deadly in early-game, and if you farm up enough you'll be deadly later on, too
Complete the cycle!
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5472 Posts
August 30 2007 04:40 GMT
#409
I've recently started playing DOTA and whoa holy shit these items are complicated... I spent like 10 minutes trying to find where you buy a "ring of health" while constantly being badgered by my teammates

Going to go cry myself to sleep now!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 30 2007 04:50 GMT
#410
it's not a game for the faint hearted
and for those who can't take criticism
because if you fuck up in a game with me i will berate you the entire time non stop
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 30 2007 06:07 GMT
#411
So go fuck yourself, then. Everyone is new at some point or another, so if you're going to be a condescending prick, well then...oh wait, you fit right in with the majority of DotA players.

"What? You're new? I was born knowing how to play."
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
August 31 2007 00:54 GMT
#412
What you join a game without learning some basics first? People want to play an actual game not have to baby someone for an entire game. Go look online, learn a little bit, talk to people then join a game.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 31 2007 01:02 GMT
#413
some people (like me) learn by playing terr13..there's no need to be an asshole about teaching new people. it's not like dota's so hard that you can't teach someone in game to not suck in about 5 minutes.
just teach them recipes, location of the 4 other shops, tell them which heroes to avoid in this game, which items to get and how to use their skills. takes a few minutes if they're not retarded.

being good is a whole other story, but if you're playing pubs that's not really a concern
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-31 03:28:25
August 31 2007 03:27 GMT
#414
On August 31 2007 10:02 JeeJee wrote:
some people (like me) learn by playing terr13..


dat`z y u r nub shinbi lolz!1


the best way to learn how to play is with people in the middle or so, regardless of their endless bitching. playing with noobs won't do shit and experts will do things that won't make any sense :{
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 31 2007 03:32 GMT
#415
On August 31 2007 12:27 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2007 10:02 JeeJee wrote:
some people (like me) learn by playing terr13..


dat`z y u r nub shinbi lolz!1


the best way to learn how to play is with people in the middle or so, regardless of their endless bitching. playing with noobs won't do shit and experts will do things that won't make any sense :{


hf on ggc bastard
<3
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 31 2007 07:24 GMT
#416
On August 31 2007 12:27 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2007 10:02 JeeJee wrote:
some people (like me) learn by playing terr13..


dat`z y u r nub shinbi lolz!1


the best way to learn how to play is with people in the middle or so, regardless of their endless bitching. playing with noobs won't do shit and experts will do things that won't make any sense :{
I'd like to add that analyzing the actions of other players who aren't too far above you in skill really helps, as it forces you to think through their thought process, and that helps solidify certain things.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5472 Posts
August 31 2007 11:04 GMT
#417
On August 31 2007 09:54 terr13 wrote:
What you join a game without learning some basics first? People want to play an actual game not have to baby someone for an entire game. Go look online, learn a little bit, talk to people then join a game.


All I needed to know where that one hidden shop was, I asked and they blew up. I had like 75% of all the denies for the team....

Game is so stupidly easy to learn (hero wise), but the fucking items are still a bitch to all find for me
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
September 01 2007 19:18 GMT
#418
Those are some of the basics, and you can just watch the map. If a noob asks me in game I'll tell them, but if they're feeding and obviously don't know what they're doing I'm mad as hell. Whenever I see people go SnY I tend to be a little bit on guard, and then I realize they're Clinkz or Lucifer, and I want them to just leave right there. And then there's those noobs who think its beneficial to get 1 point in every skill when they only need 1 skill like Juggernaut. They should just spend the 15 minutes to learn something about the game before even joining and wasting the time of all the players. My friends and i have already resigned to the fact that every game will have 2-3 noobs, and we just hope they're not on the same time or its already over.
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
September 01 2007 20:24 GMT
#419
On August 30 2007 13:40 SoleSteeler wrote:
I've recently started playing DOTA and whoa holy shit these items are complicated... I spent like 10 minutes trying to find where you buy a "ring of health" while constantly being badgered by my teammates

Going to go cry myself to sleep now!

It's ok, HnR)Insane, Zelniq, and ilovecats badgered me every game for like the first 15 games.

paper also, he's a brutal slave driver when it comes to items.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
September 01 2007 20:59 GMT
#420
*cracks whip* >;D

items are so easy imo xD
dota needs more items to make it harder on noobs >:}

hero skills take so much longer to learn in terms of their small details
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