EPT[H] DotA items - Page 20
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
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Hydro Kirby
United States7 Posts
Skadi isn't necessarily gotten primarily for the DPS; you get it for the stat bonuses and the slow, then you tack on your DPS item after the Skadi (or before, w/e). Blink > Lothars on almost everything. Lothars is countered by a Sent ward, or anything with true sight. Blink can be used whenever Lothars can. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
It's bad if you rush it, except a few select heroes [ like qop ], but other than that it's only drawback is that it costs a lot. Skadi is a perfectly fine item in my book. Especially because it doesn't count as a orb on ranged heroes [ again with the exception of some orbs like desolation ] | ||
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Hydro Kirby
United States7 Posts
On August 11 2007 23:34 Heen wrote: Next is SnY. SnY is perhaps the most hated item in DotA. 'It gives a little bit of everything.' But no on sniper it's not. It's pretty standard on him. Let's see: useful attributes to sniper? +str? check +agi? check +ms? check +as? check +maim? check A good sniper positions himself well and that means a lot of moving around. The ms gain from this build will be a huge asset. And at this point your agi gain should be significant enough to proc maim often enough. Sny > Skadi on sniper. Skadi is a useless piece of shit item that has the worst DPS/gold for such a ridiculously expensive item. (Note I only get skadi in game 3 since terrorblade dropped). Right here. And this is after I type up about a page explaining why Skadi > SnY. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
I'm getting tired of forumcrafting to defend my style of play really. No one wins here. It's pretty much your word or mine. DotA is still an unexplored game and I am certain that the majority of us are in for a surprise. The same thing will happen with DotA as it did with BW I assume. People will rule out many possibilities as not viable or newb only to look like an ass later on when a pro demonstrates it. I don't even support the 'if a pro does it, it's good' argument but it seems to make most ppl happy since they can't argue with someone who is undoubtedly better than them. *cough* cowards Who would've thought 3 Hatch before pool in TvZ 'could' work? Or 14 Nexus in 2v2? I seem to recall arguing necromastery + shadowraze is good a while back. Then someone stepped in and bashed it saying it's too 'pub.' Or SnY being utter trash, plenty of excellent players get it on various heroes. I don't think it should be necessary to link a replay or some sort of proof to back up my statements. Try it and decide for yourself. I say this because I am not easily persuaded myself. | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
 or 5v5 with lots of leavers. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
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lololol
5198 Posts
On August 16 2007 21:49 Heen wrote: I would think BKB easily counters the overpriced blademail. Running away easily counters 10 seconds of BKB. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
 But, in the game I played him (didn't read your post before), when I bought BoT, I got trashed by people in the game "Wtf u need BoT for, you get max -ms with Emp. Haste lvl 4 and Charge of Darkness if you have Treads". Any thoughts / comments on that? And a funny addition, I used a similar build to yours (something like RoR + 2 tangos, later 2 Bracer, BoT -> SnY -> Hyperstone -> BKB). Funny | ||
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Hydro Kirby
United States7 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On August 17 2007 02:40 Naib wrote: Heen, I got a question for you regarding Spiritbreaker. Today I was like, after this ~2 month of playing DotA, trying out the heroes I've never had the chance to use before (didn't /random or pick them deliberately yet). One of these heroes were the Spiritbreaker, and I've grown very fond of him I think But, in the game I played him (didn't read your post before), when I bought BoT, I got trashed by people in the game "Wtf u need BoT for, you get max -ms with Emp. Haste lvl 4 and Charge of Darkness if you have Treads". Any thoughts / comments on that? And a funny addition, I used a similar build to yours (something like RoR + 2 tangos, later 2 Bracer, BoT -> SnY -> Hyperstone -> BKB). Funny Yeah...people who say that are noobs who don't realize how the bonus damage is done on SB. The bonus damage is done before the actual hit is landed on hero by SB, so with Charge your first bonus damage is/can be monstrous. With that said, level 4 Charge + BoT+Empowering Haste means you can not only do a big opening hit but it also means you can charge from very close and reach 500+ ms quickly, potentially making SB a very scary ganker. Personally, I wouldnt even make an SnY and just drop a BKB/MoM on SB, BoTs are more than enough. | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On August 14 2007 05:59 Ack1027 wrote: lol this 16 year old immature fag was one of the people who came into my vent when I was recruiting people. One of the most selfish dota players, has no sense of team work and spends way more time chatting than actually playing. He was going to play in our first preseason league match, never showed up, so we won handily without him and banned him from vent and channel and told him we lost. He kept apologizing but said we take dota too seriously hahaha. Let go of the grudge romance you aren't that good at dota. 16 but more mature than you :D No sense of teamwork? Yea that's why I play IHCS. Home of the dota players with no team work... There is no grudge, you're just an idiot. Me being good or not at dota is irrelevant. You automatically assume that anything I say towards you has to do with some "grudge" from being kicked off a mediocre dota team. Good try though! PS: How you handled that situation was beyond any level of immatureness I have ever reached. I tried to handle this on BNet and then even PM on this site, and you wouldn't respond, but now for some reason you insult me in front of the majority of TL.net. Attention whore or are you just bad at handling your problems? | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Thanks. | ||
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lovetramy
Vietnam120 Posts
with BOT and SnY u have +73 dmg or smthing . free relic ! then u can rape almost everyone 1vs1 . perfect for pubs | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
On August 17 2007 08:54 lovetramy wrote: In -em he's a bitch.SB is a fucking cheap hero tbh -_- with BOT and SnY u have +73 dmg or smthing . free relic ! then u can rape almost everyone 1vs1 . perfect for pubs Ack, I'd really love to play with you some time. When are you around and on what gateway? If you don't want to, I'd understand. I'm not huge fan of playing noobs either.  | ||
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lovetramy
Vietnam120 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On August 17 2007 09:29 rpf wrote: In -em he's a bitch. Ack, I'd really love to play with you some time. When are you around and on what gateway? If you don't want to, I'd understand. I'm not huge fan of playing noobs either. Well I'll be a college freshman soon and classes start so for the next week or so I'll be moving in/adjusting but I'm usually on like 8PM-Early morning hours EST every night. I play on Azeroth[East] but if you got vent I'm probably on the majority of the day. account: JLIG.Vicious channel: Clan JLIG | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
/f a himynameisrob | ||
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