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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14894 Posts
August 13 2007 15:16 GMT
#361
yeah but if you put it in the back, then they have to go through your army to get it
It isn't that hard to keep it alive for at least 4-5 seconds (maybe more) which is 16-20% hp
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 13 2007 20:59 GMT
#362
On August 13 2007 05:05 Romance_us wrote:
Dota is very overrated.

And yes I have played it extensively, and yes I will beat you unless you take DotA way too seriously, such as Ack1027 with his 30 600+ word posts in this thread.


lol this 16 year old immature fag was one of the people who came into my vent when I was recruiting people.

One of the most selfish dota players, has no sense of team work and spends way more time chatting than actually playing. He was going to play in our first preseason league match, never showed up, so we won handily without him and banned him from vent and channel and told him we lost. He kept apologizing but said we take dota too seriously hahaha.

Let go of the grudge romance you aren't that good at dota.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 13 2007 22:03 GMT
#363
haha, i remember when i heard about that ;]

overrated as in what?

people play it for fun, you can't overrate something if you really enjoy it
Ack is one of the people w/ most expeirence in dota from tl.net so he has every right to say what he does in this thread

don't get so pompy guy
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{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
August 13 2007 23:14 GMT
#364
I just lost 2 games in a row and im fucking upset about it
Kimmural
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1111 Posts
August 14 2007 02:28 GMT
#365
On August 14 2007 08:14 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I just lost 2 games in a row and im fucking upset about it


Roll enchantress so you wont lose?
or Terror blade.
Just saying "no" prevents teenage pragnancy the way "have a nice day" cues chronic depression
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
August 14 2007 02:47 GMT
#366
im tired of always picking winner heroes. Naix every game is boring;)
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 14 2007 05:27 GMT
#367
On August 14 2007 07:03 BlueRoyaL wrote:
haha, i remember when i heard about that ;]

overrated as in what?

people play it for fun, you can't overrate something if you really enjoy it
Ack is one of the people w/ most expeirence in dota from tl.net so he has every right to say what he does in this thread

don't get so pompy guy


Yo where you been lately.

And I just remembered the other day you are and.beta forgot you were hangook saram yo - _-v
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
August 14 2007 07:27 GMT
#368
Hey Ack, next time let's play on GGC if that's alright with you.

Hamachi = fail, GG works fine. Although largely dependent on host.
('''(G_G/'''')
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 14 2007 19:44 GMT
#369
I want to play with you guys, even if I suck.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 14 2007 19:55 GMT
#370
Oh, and I wanted to hear more about how to avoid dying. Is it just intuition to avoid ganks? Or is it necessary on heroes like sniper, zeus, drow, etc., to get a lothar's or dagger so that you have the escape mechanism?
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
August 14 2007 20:13 GMT
#371
dagger is essential on zeus imo but i guess mostly its about avoiding ganks
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
August 14 2007 20:15 GMT
#372
Lothar's is not just an escape mechanism. It's the perfect tool for ganking. Take Ursa, easily one of the best 1v1 heroes (imo. I also think Bane Elemental is very-very good in 1v1, but that's just me. We can agree on Ursa). My build with him (mind you, I'm no expert) is 2 bracers, BoT, Lothar's. Ganking soloing heroes / forest is just too good opportunity to miss.
Complete the cycle!
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
August 14 2007 20:17 GMT
#373
There are different ways to survive on different heroes.

For example, if I'm viper and I'm soloing bottom as sentinel I'll buy a set of observer wards and put them by the river 1 at a time which will last me a good 12 minutes. That makes it extremely hard for scourge to gank me unless it's at night time and they use tp scrolls so the missing call doesn't get to me in time.

The idea of getting things like lothars and blink dagger is so that you can farm in places that you would otherwise not go. Well, Lothar's which is much less popular than blink dagger is almost purely defensive while dagger goes both ways (more offensive though).

Also what I do every game is check the heroes that can disrupt channeling and if there are only 1 or 2 heroes all I have to do is look out for those on the minimap since tp'ing out with fast reaction will save you.

Another thing is sensing when your opponents are playing differently. This, I think helps more against good players. Good players are less likely to do stupid stuff. So if I'm vs a queen of pain and I have full hp and she blinks in and ss's me, I tp out right away since I'm almost certain some heroes are going to pop out of no where. Sudden aggressiveness is a common sign of ganks.
('''(G_G/'''')
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 14 2007 23:33 GMT
#374
On August 14 2007 16:27 Heen wrote:
Hey Ack, next time let's play on GGC if that's alright with you.

Hamachi = fail, GG works fine. Although largely dependent on host.


I got lc host if that's okay with you.

GGC is fine but for like 1-2 of my clanmates they have lots of issues with it so we usually run hamachi or ggc, however if neither of them are on we can just ggc I guess.
Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
August 15 2007 02:55 GMT
#375
Anyone here play ursa a lot? What are some common builds on him?
Riding a bike is overrated.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
August 15 2007 03:37 GMT
#376
usually i go aghanim's. OMG 500 LIFE = INSTA-WIN.
Hates Fun🤔
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
August 15 2007 03:48 GMT
#377
On August 15 2007 08:33 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2007 16:27 Heen wrote:
Hey Ack, next time let's play on GGC if that's alright with you.

Hamachi = fail, GG works fine. Although largely dependent on host.


I got lc host if that's okay with you.

GGC is fine but for like 1-2 of my clanmates they have lots of issues with it so we usually run hamachi or ggc, however if neither of them are on we can just ggc I guess.

Well you're host was 'okay' last time but I had a hard time last hitting ~_~

TL DotA squad is dying oh noes
('''(G_G/'''')
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 15 2007 03:49 GMT
#378
On August 15 2007 11:55 Pacifist wrote:
Anyone here play ursa a lot? What are some common builds on him?


bracers/vanguard to dagger then to bkb if they have spells/stuns or heart if i can take it
Get it by your hands...
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
August 15 2007 06:01 GMT
#379
Lothars seriously sucks against decent opponents, dagger > lothars.
Ursa usually goes some bracers/RoRs to survive/stay in lane early, then dagger and mass hearts(it's the best item for him, upping both his damage and survivability by a lot). With the recent change to melee, vladimirs can also be beneficial in some situations, because of his insane damage output.
I'll call Nada.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 15 2007 07:29 GMT
#380
yeah usually bd>lothars for most cases, it's a lot cheaper too
i'd say bd>lothars even for ursa, i see a lotta people getting lothars for ursa and it makes me sad =(
you wont really see ursa in serious games but seriously, you wouldnt be trying to get a lothars for him, you would never have time to farm what you really need which are health items

gem/wards and your invis fail =(

if you keep dying, i would say you should keep a closer eye to your mini map. map sense will help save you a lot, and will help you save your allies and go in for ganks etc
it's nice when you have a team where you dont always have to say "B B !!!" or "GANK!!! *ping ping*"
and instead they know right away what they're doing because they have good mapsense
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