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Laurens
Belgium4544 Posts
On August 01 2023 23:12 WombaT wrote: Are you just trolling with this Bobby Kotick/ATVI love-in at this stage? Lmao I wonder this too, he did the same in the Nintendo switch thread | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
On August 02 2023 00:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think trying to view it as "good" or "bad" or engage in a "love in" is a waste of energy. Vote with your money. Games are locked behind paywalls, you can't "vote" without spending money. | ||
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
I cannot recommend it. Feels too boilerplate. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44353 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On August 01 2023 22:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I stopped playing after 50 hours. It was fun. I moved on to a different game. It appears to me Blizzard was trying to appeal to people who have my mainstream tastes when it comes to arpgs. It was a nice try, but the combat in any arpg isn't as much fun as the game I'm now playing. Great marketing by ATVI to sucker me out of $90 CDN. Now , in 1980 a 'gamer' would head to the arcade and spend $0.60 per play of a stand up cabinet arcade game. So I paid $90 for ~ 145 plays over 50 hours. That is under 20 minutes of game time per $0.60 of spending. ATVI and "Bobby" have managed to return the video game hobby back to it's most expensive format of the early 80s// late 70s. What an accomplishment. across the board, i have been aiming for $.50-$1.00/hr of gametime the last decade or so and i don't think that any one company is responsible for "returning" to this. that said, i think that they have even failed at appealing to mainstream gamers. or at least mainstream gamers should FEEL that way. Season 1 was a major step back and made it impossible for me to give them the benefit of the doubt or hope for this game's future. Season 2 will be do or die for the casual crowd, but at least they got our money. On August 02 2023 02:41 Godwrath wrote: Games are locked behind paywalls, you can't "vote" without spending money. not sure if there is a language barrier here, but if a game is locked behind a paywall, you'd be voting with your money by not spending money on the game | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On August 02 2023 03:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'm definitely happy with Diablo 4 so far, and I'm sure it'll only continue to improve. Level 82 Druid before Season 1, level 52 Rogue during Season 1, and now I'm going to take a break for a while to rotate in some other games and hobbies. Whenever I play more D4 (a month? two months? six months?) I'll probably go Sorc next, then Necro, and then Barb last. Same. I'm happy with the game so far but took a break to play something else. Level 96 sorc and level 54 rogue before the season started. I skipped season 1. I'm a binge gamer so I haven't touched the game again cause I'm concentrating on my other games. Maybe I'll play a little depending on how good the upcoming patch is. D4's biggest mistake is similar to D3's. They were trying too hard to be many too things to too many different people. D3 improved once the new team implemented their vision for the people who liked their game. | ||
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On August 02 2023 00:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think trying to view it as "good" or "bad" or engage in a "love in" is a waste of energy. Vote with your money. meh... I have been voting with my money since 2012 after D3 was released. Has it amounted to anything? No, because most people who complain keep buying games from Blizzard (or other companies) anyways. | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
On August 02 2023 05:15 BluemoonSC wrote: not sure if there is a language barrier here, but if a game is locked behind a paywall, you'd be voting with your money by not spending money on the game That would make sense to an extent that, you can't try a game tell if you're really gonna like it or not or know what you think about it unless you buy it, or hardly (try at a friend's or something). Unlike food or such that you can try a few times then not buy it anymore. But yeah for me it's a dodge so far. Anyway another way to vote is critics and etc, so forums sure and then sites like metacritics, I'm sure many noticed D4 has gotten very very bad metacritics user rating which is usually telling although review bombing is a thing, can compare to other games etc. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25387 Posts
Is it that bad and is the bombing justified? What’s the issue here? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44353 Posts
On August 02 2023 20:37 WombaT wrote: Apparently people are pretty heavily review bombing based on the last patch. Is it that bad and is the bombing justified? What’s the issue here? Some gamers forgot that patches with negative changes can very easily be fixed in later patches, and wanted the game and/or all updates to be literally perfect (whatever that means, given its subjectivity). | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On August 02 2023 23:47 andrewlt wrote: Metacritics user rating is useless. The amount of stuff that gets review bombed is ridiculous. Well, the "official reviewer" rating is arguably more useless because those reviewers are being payed by the companies to give the favourable ratings... | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
For movies, there are audience scores that interview people who actually watched the movie after they watched the move. The scores tend to be wildly different than online scores. The people who leave online reviews the most are a few pathetic demographics. They are not close to being representative of the average consumer. | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
Like, every Blizzard game is review bombed, but Dragonflight, which seems pretty good, is at 3.4. Diablo Immortal (PC) is at 0.4. OW2 (PC) at 1.4. And D4 (PC) at 2.2. Honestly, if you take Dragonflight as the top of the scale, it pretty much fits in order any sane person knows that D4 is not a 2.2 / 10 game. It just shows that a lot of people are mad about it, but not as mad as they were w.r.t. Diablo Immortal. Whether or not the D4 anger is justified is up to your own interpretation | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
Patch 1.1.1 for Aug 8 | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25387 Posts
Or, why are they mad? Is this patch that heinous? Genuinely asking as I had some fun playing on my bro’s acc but still want to get myself a copy People are entitled to their opinions but do they have to be so damn entitled in how they express them? If anything we’ve gone full circle where I find myself leaning back into professional reviewers again because review bombing makes user aggregates completely useless as a barometer | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On August 03 2023 03:31 WombaT wrote: Or, why are they mad? Is this patch that heinous? Genuinely asking as I had some fun playing on my bro’s acc but still want to get myself a copy This may not be the most charitable framing, but as I understand it, people are mad because Blizzard slowed down the game a lot, and yet the audience they attracted and catered to with their game were the sort who want to plow through content with their brain off. All the complaints are about the game slowing down, levelling taking longer, longer to exit a dungeon, classes being nerfed... Some of these may have been good balancing decisions (others like the leaving a dungeon thing really do feel like they were just trying to sneak in some free points to bolster their metrics of user-minutes to impress the higher-ups), but that doesn't matter because game slower now want level go up faster. | ||
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