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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 01 2011 14:42 GMT
#321
Graphics can benefit gameplay.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 01 2011 14:53 GMT
#322
On June 01 2011 23:36 Jibba wrote:
I'm curious, but downloading it off a torrent site seems like a terrible idea. o.o


I could provide a reliable link, but that would be against the rules.
Marzuki
Profile Joined April 2011
United States30 Posts
June 01 2011 15:02 GMT
#323
It is not uncommon for a high res texture pack to be released with the game but not included in its pre-release iterations. I still play the original Deus Ex, so at this point anything better than block people is an improvement.
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
June 01 2011 15:13 GMT
#324
They wouldn't purposely make the graphics kinda shitty as a throwback to DE1....would they?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 01 2011 15:21 GMT
#325
The graphics look great, I dont know what everyone is going on about with them.
Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
June 01 2011 15:55 GMT
#326
On June 02 2011 00:21 Fruscainte wrote:
The graphics look great, I dont know what everyone is going on about with them.


The screenshots posted a page or two back... You think those look 'great'?
"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 01 2011 16:00 GMT
#327
On June 02 2011 00:55 Gnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 00:21 Fruscainte wrote:
The graphics look great, I dont know what everyone is going on about with them.


The screenshots posted a page or two back... You think those look 'great'?


[image loading]

If the gameplay is solid (which it is, it's damn good) and the graphics look better than that picture, I don't give a fuck. And if you're stressing out about graphics when the last one looked like the above picture when the game is as good as it is, go look at some really awesome graphics called outside if that's what you're into.
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
June 01 2011 16:02 GMT
#328
I downloaded the early-alpha build and have played 6 hours or so and in general it looks great. While there are a few strange faces (especially as i am playing this right after finishing LA noire) its not like every face is extremely bad. The main character and in general characters with a large story influence looks decent.

However, the general areas, especially the large modeled version of future-detroit looks fucking awesome, lightning is also cool as well.

I'll look forward to playing more of it (and yes i will buy it once its released) but from what i can tell its much more like Deus Ex 1 then Deus ex 2.
Gör om, gör rätt
Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
June 01 2011 16:08 GMT
#329
On June 02 2011 01:00 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 00:55 Gnosis wrote:
On June 02 2011 00:21 Fruscainte wrote:
The graphics look great, I dont know what everyone is going on about with them.


The screenshots posted a page or two back... You think those look 'great'?


[image loading]

If the gameplay is solid (which it is, it's damn good) and the graphics look better than that picture, I don't give a fuck. And if you're stressing out about graphics when the last one looked like the above picture when the game is as good as it is, go look at some really awesome graphics called outside if that's what you're into.


It's pretty easy to knock-down straw men, isn't it?

I asked you if you really thought the graphics looked great, based on the screenshots that were posted a page or two back. If you think they do, that's fine - I don't.
"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 01 2011 16:09 GMT
#330
Holy shit PuertoRican is in the new Deus Ex game

[image loading]
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 16:13:57
June 01 2011 16:13 GMT
#331
The alpha build has many bugs ?
I have to admit that i'm somewhat tempted :o
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 01 2011 16:33 GMT
#332
On June 02 2011 01:13 Boblion wrote:
The alpha build has many bugs ?
I have to admit that i'm somewhat tempted :o


As someone said before, the face animations are a little bugged.

Other than that, it runs smoothly. I get crashes every here and there (5 hours in and had two crashes so far) and a little framerate drops when things get messy, but it's not Obsidian-tier or something.
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 01 2011 16:38 GMT
#333
On June 01 2011 23:29 Boblion wrote:
Dx 1 is still better than 99% of the games released nowadays. It has nothing to do with nostalgia.


It's sorta hard to describe. I find that there are a lot of "classics" that felt better at the time they were released than games that are technically better but feel average by don't feel special for the times.

To me the best example I have of this is when I compare Fallout 2 to Fallout 3. I find both to be great games, but I prefer 2, even if I can't point my finger on what I felt was better and that 3 is just about bigger and better in every way but never captured that same feeling

Objectively a lot of games are better than DX1, but very very few will ever capture how the game felt when it came out. If you still enjoy them today more than most titles, I think that's mostly nostalgia, at least that's how I see DX1 when I compare it to other games.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 17:28:28
June 01 2011 16:48 GMT
#334
On June 02 2011 01:38 Furycrab wrote:
Objectively a lot of games are better than DX1

I'm really curious about that, please share ( PM ). I can't even name more than five games of the same genre.
Btw nothing is objective.

Thx for the answer fruscainte.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 01 2011 16:50 GMT
#335
New games, especially FPS are only better in graphics then DX1. There is truly no FPS or FPS/RPG hybrid that came after Deus Ex 1 that came even close to the number of options and cool things to do. They didn't even come close to the atmosphere. Vampire Bloodlines were fairly close but not enough.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 17:43:19
June 01 2011 17:40 GMT
#336
Oh nevermind, it has been mentioned.
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Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 01 2011 18:23 GMT
#337
On June 02 2011 01:48 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 01:38 Furycrab wrote:
Objectively a lot of games are better than DX1

I'm really curious about that, please share ( PM ). I can't even name more than five games of the same genre.
Btw nothing is objective.

Thx for the answer fruscainte.


Well objectively in the sense that if I were to give a game to someone who hasn't played either game or if you tried to quantify with various factors like Graphics, Sound and Gameplay.

When you compare fairly old game to more modern generation you'll have a realllllly hard time explaining why you think the older one is better unless they're obvious flaws in the newer one. Fallout 1-2 to 3 is the best example to me of games that feel that way, and I get the feeling the DX 1 and DX3 are going to have similar things going for both of them.

The same "genre" there are a lot of games. However it depends on how narrow you set the genre. So I'll just leave it at that for now.

I'm just guessing you hold DX1 in very high esteem, and if your hoping for them to come up with something as good or better, you'll likely feel like the guy who has read the books before going to a movie adaptation to whom the book will always be better. ;P

Myself, I wasn't a fan of the whole first person RPG at the time. So when I did end up playing it, it didn't quite have the same effect on me.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 19:27:54
June 01 2011 19:27 GMT
#338
Alright, I just beat the Deus Ex leaked version.

I got to say, it's really good. It's not great, it's not astounding. But it's pretty damn good.

I built stealth all the way around, and that last boss fight was kind of annoying but I just found out you just throw all your det packs at his feet and blow it all up at once and just insta win so it's no biggie.

I really like how there are just a bunch of ways to approach the simplest parts. I mean, just running by some enemies pissed me off because there was a vent I could have just crawled through. or hacking a computer and finding out about a keycode on one of the guards.

You could do every part of the game in any way you wanted to, and it was fucking pro.

Definitely lived up to the hype from what I can see. I just hope when the real game comes out I can import this save so I dont have to play the first 10 hours again.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
June 01 2011 19:30 GMT
#339
The Graphics are the same since 2006, everyone complaining about games not using the pc at its full potential are retarded, its this way since release of ps3/xbox360. the game with the overall best graphics is crysis (2006). all game-graphics are made to run on consoles, so there will be no new graphic-monsters, if the game is released on consoles


and thats exactly why people complain. also doing a better pc version is always an option either by tuning up their gfx or making it for pc and then tune it down for consoles.


imagine if cross platform games would be made for wii level of graphics. im sure all the xbox and ps3 owners would be super angry as well when they get shitty visuals cause of a lesser performing platform.





im eager to read alpha expiriences. wont do it myself since i wanna spoil it but i def like to read some first impressions ~
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Aelip
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark321 Posts
June 01 2011 19:44 GMT
#340
On June 02 2011 04:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
also doing a better pc version is always an option either by tuning up their gfx or making it for pc and then tune it down for consoles.


You don't think it's this simple, do you? They take alot of things into account, and the main selling point for not making games of greater graphics is DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN... Money.

It's cheaper to make a less pretty looking game.
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