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letsye made a form to share info - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/523467-destiny-2-pc-xbox-ps4?page=9#165

eieio also made a PC clan, PM him here or add him in-game: eieio#11967

Clan: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2/Index?groupId=2871144
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 12 2017 22:41 GMT
#81
On September 13 2017 07:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 07:17 Duka08 wrote:
On September 13 2017 06:49 lestye wrote:
On September 13 2017 06:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
apparently Destiny2 has 1.2 million concurrent players shortly after launch of the game.
is that good?
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.
it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

ya,
and the Honky Tonk Man is the "Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!"

https://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376

that $500 million is product shipped.. not sold. many months later ATVI bundled Destiny with Hearthstone claiming the sum total of both franchises brought in $850 million over the course of a year. Considering Hearthstone was built by a small staff in a "throwback to the garage programmer days of the 80s" and Destiny had 87 bazillion employees working on it for 5 years that's not a good game to be bundled along with.

ATVI's worst 10 week stretch on the stock market occurred starting from September 10,2014 right after Destiny was released.

ATVI's unwillingness to provide concrete financial #s indicates that the game has underperformed relative to expectations up to this point.
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

kinda reminds me of Borderlands skill trees.


500m product shipped is sold to a company like "ATVI", they got their money. And comparing it to Hearthstone is not really relevant. Hearthstone and any King game is going to be a shit ton more efficent in $ brought in per employee but that doesnt mean the AAA titles aren't worth doing.

Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.

Don't engage him.

Are people still salty about the consumable shaders thing? Or did it turn out that they drop frequently enough not to be an issue

I don't know if people are super mad about it. It seems that the shaders are not removed if you unequip the item, which used to happen(or people claim). I think the biggest problem people have is that it is really hard to go and find a dope shader and work toward it. It was really easy to go to a vendor, pick a shader and see how awesome you would look if you had it.

There was a fun part of the community really into shader fashion, since they are all associated with different factions. I think they wish there was a little more structure and a way to see all the shaders that exist.

Ah gotcha. Yeah I'm a strong believer in having a "test wardrobe" or some similar feature in any game with cosmetics. Not only helps players sort out what they have and what/where they need to go farm, but it helps sell in-game shop cosmetics too lol. Was just curious because I had a friend that felt pretty strongly about it at launch but Bungie seemed to imply that they'd start dropping like candy and it wouldn't really be a big deal.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
September 12 2017 22:45 GMT
#82
Destiny is certainly one of the games I wish had a more robust cosmetic system. Also that was one of the things I disliked about the hard reset of Destiny 2, was theres so many dope weapon and armor design that we wont see unless they go out of their way to bring it back.

But yea, I dont think its that big of a deal.Seems way overblown. And if thats the thing people are bitching about this late after launch, thats probably a good thing.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17724 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 22:49:19
September 12 2017 22:46 GMT
#83
On September 13 2017 07:38 lestye wrote:
"we were able to be profitable from day one. And we think it’s only a matter of time now before it becomes our next billion-dollar franchise." from the CEO of Activision. I'd have to assume with its DLC and the like, its one of their 8 billion dollar franchises. Its not proof, but I think given how much they talk up and market Destiny, it'd be the case.

you know what is fucking hilarious about that quote? at the time of that quote Overwatch didn't even exist. And it became ATVI's "next billion dollar franchise".

if any franchise becomes a "billion dollar franchise" ATVI talks about it.. a lot. they don't keep it a secret. And Overwatch became a billion dollar franchise in 10 months.

no such announcement for Destiny though. so no, Destiny is not a billion dollar franchise. If it eventually becomes a billion dollar franchise we'll hear about it. Same with Hearthstone, Skylanders, etc.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 22:49:55
September 12 2017 22:49 GMT
#84
On September 13 2017 07:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 07:38 lestye wrote:
"we were able to be profitable from day one. And we think it’s only a matter of time now before it becomes our next billion-dollar franchise." from the CEO of Activision. I'd have to assume with its DLC and the like, its one of their 8 billion dollar franchises. Its not proof, but I think given how much they talk up and market Destiny, it'd be the case.

you know what is fucking hilarious about that quote? at the time of that quote Overwatch didn't even exist. And it became ATVI's "next billion dollar franchise".

if any franchise becomes a billion dollar franchise ATVI talks about it.. a lot. they don't keep it a secret. And Overwatch became a billion dollar franchise in 10 months.

no such announcement for Destiny though. so no, Destiny is not a billion dollar franchise. If it eventually becomes a billion dollar franchise we'll hear about it. Same with Hearthstone, Skylanders, etc.

Diablo didnt get such an announcement and it only became a billion dollar franchise fairly recently (last few years when its a 20+ year old franchise) iicr.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17724 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 23:03:17
September 12 2017 23:00 GMT
#85
On September 13 2017 07:49 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 07:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On September 13 2017 07:38 lestye wrote:
"we were able to be profitable from day one. And we think it’s only a matter of time now before it becomes our next billion-dollar franchise." from the CEO of Activision. I'd have to assume with its DLC and the like, its one of their 8 billion dollar franchises. Its not proof, but I think given how much they talk up and market Destiny, it'd be the case.

you know what is fucking hilarious about that quote? at the time of that quote Overwatch didn't even exist. And it became ATVI's "next billion dollar franchise".

if any franchise becomes a billion dollar franchise ATVI talks about it.. a lot. they don't keep it a secret. And Overwatch became a billion dollar franchise in 10 months.

no such announcement for Destiny though. so no, Destiny is not a billion dollar franchise. If it eventually becomes a billion dollar franchise we'll hear about it. Same with Hearthstone, Skylanders, etc.

Diablo didnt get such an announcement and it only became a billion dollar franchise fairly recently (last few years when its a 20+ year old franchise) iicr.

that's a good point!
however, Kotick yaps more about Activision titles financial performance than Blizzard titles though. I don't think WoW got an announcement either.
Activision franchises always get the billion dollar announcement ... Guitar Hero, Skylanders, CoD all got the billion dollar franchise announcement. Guitar Hero even got a "2 billion dollar announcement".

anyhow, it'll be interesting to see if we get an announcement about revenue for D2 this week. my guess is its around the $330 million mark.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2017 00:35 GMT
#86
Welp the Xbox Store leaked the DLC so spoiler warning for those that have said console.

Patch notes:

https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46246
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17724 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 00:46:01
September 13 2017 00:43 GMT
#87
Bungie is saving us from those evil Kekistanis or is it Kekistanites? or Kekistanians?

our clan Avatar in various Blizzard games has a giant "K" in it and kinda sorta looks like the Kekistan flag... i hope they don't call it offensive and remove it from our Blizzard games.

the "K" stands for Kramerica though. hopefully, they'll understand.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 13 2017 00:46 GMT
#88
On September 13 2017 07:41 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 07:33 Plansix wrote:
On September 13 2017 07:17 Duka08 wrote:
On September 13 2017 06:49 lestye wrote:
On September 13 2017 06:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
apparently Destiny2 has 1.2 million concurrent players shortly after launch of the game.
is that good?
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.
it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

ya,
and the Honky Tonk Man is the "Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!"

https://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376

that $500 million is product shipped.. not sold. many months later ATVI bundled Destiny with Hearthstone claiming the sum total of both franchises brought in $850 million over the course of a year. Considering Hearthstone was built by a small staff in a "throwback to the garage programmer days of the 80s" and Destiny had 87 bazillion employees working on it for 5 years that's not a good game to be bundled along with.

ATVI's worst 10 week stretch on the stock market occurred starting from September 10,2014 right after Destiny was released.

ATVI's unwillingness to provide concrete financial #s indicates that the game has underperformed relative to expectations up to this point.
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

kinda reminds me of Borderlands skill trees.


500m product shipped is sold to a company like "ATVI", they got their money. And comparing it to Hearthstone is not really relevant. Hearthstone and any King game is going to be a shit ton more efficent in $ brought in per employee but that doesnt mean the AAA titles aren't worth doing.

Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.

Don't engage him.

Are people still salty about the consumable shaders thing? Or did it turn out that they drop frequently enough not to be an issue

I don't know if people are super mad about it. It seems that the shaders are not removed if you unequip the item, which used to happen(or people claim). I think the biggest problem people have is that it is really hard to go and find a dope shader and work toward it. It was really easy to go to a vendor, pick a shader and see how awesome you would look if you had it.

There was a fun part of the community really into shader fashion, since they are all associated with different factions. I think they wish there was a little more structure and a way to see all the shaders that exist.

Ah gotcha. Yeah I'm a strong believer in having a "test wardrobe" or some similar feature in any game with cosmetics. Not only helps players sort out what they have and what/where they need to go farm, but it helps sell in-game shop cosmetics too lol. Was just curious because I had a friend that felt pretty strongly about it at launch but Bungie seemed to imply that they'd start dropping like candy and it wouldn't really be a big deal.

There are two issues at play here:

A: Destiny always seems to be a hot minute away from jacking us all with micro transaction, but they manage to keep it reasonable. But the threat is real. Every time they added things to the real money store, people responded like this.

B: The shader system has previews and doesn't seem to be that bad, but its hard to know what is out there in the world. I'm sure it will be figured out. But this game is a big action figure game, where you dress up your dope hero is the flying space wizard armor and roll with your buddies to kill robots across time. People want to know how to look fly and that system tells you shit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2017 03:14 GMT
#89
So this hotfix patch is 4.7 Gigs... I'm guessing it contains the new raid.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2017 14:15 GMT
#90
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
September 13 2017 17:09 GMT
#91
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2017 17:10 GMT
#92
Went live 10 minutes ago.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2017 17:20 GMT
#93
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 00:49:48
September 14 2017 00:49 GMT
#94
So raid has been cleared. Here's the kicker one of the items dropped is a token, you have to collect a hundred of said tokens in order to get a Emperor's Banner. Whatever that is.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17724 Posts
September 14 2017 04:59 GMT
#95
Physical box copies of D2 are 40% of what they were for D1 in Japan.
https://aotf.com/news/destiny-2-first-week-sales-disappoint-japan/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 14:26:49
September 14 2017 14:26 GMT
#96
How many sales were digital though I wonder.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17724 Posts
September 14 2017 14:46 GMT
#97
yep, that is the elephant in the room. Bungie announced 1.2 million concurrents and that indicates over 3 million units sold.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 14 2017 16:35 GMT
#98
I am looking forward to doing the raid once I find enough time to earn up my light(Im not calling it power).
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
September 15 2017 05:36 GMT
#99
That feeling when you have no friends on PS4 because everyone jumped on the Xbox bandwagon for some reason so you're forced to pug the raid.

Then see everyone spamming for 280+ light lvl only and required raid experience to be invited.

The raid has been out for not even 2days yet... Those requirements cannot be met by 80% of the playerbase...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 18 2017 16:05 GMT
#100
Well apparently this is how you do it. Also worth noting they haven't released the hard mode version yet as this is just the normal difficulty.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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