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letsye made a form to share info - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/523467-destiny-2-pc-xbox-ps4?page=9#165

eieio also made a PC clan, PM him here or add him in-game: eieio#11967

Clan: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2/Index?groupId=2871144
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4197 Posts
September 07 2017 04:19 GMT
#61
I'm not playing until it hits PC unless theres some oustanding sale between then and now, but I did purchase the soundtrack. Its glorious.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 07 2017 09:00 GMT
#62
So... I think I know where the Raid will unlock.

+ Show Spoiler +

Titan. Something huge swimming on that planet.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 07 2017 09:15 GMT
#63
Can't even log in on PS4. Apparently been issues for at least 6 hours. Love me some game launches.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 07 2017 11:34 GMT
#64
Just played for a couple of hours on the PS4 =/ Literally logged off 2 minutes ago.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 07 2017 11:37 GMT
#65
Ya sounds like it wasn't hitting everyone. All good, as long as its up for the weekend ill be happy!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 07 2017 12:12 GMT
#66
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 06:24:12
September 07 2017 22:39 GMT
#67




Also:

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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 17:45:01
September 11 2017 17:44 GMT
#68
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.

it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 11 2017 18:55 GMT
#69
On September 07 2017 13:04 Zooper31 wrote:
Everything is an vast improvement over the original. Except how they messed with shaders. Fuck them, shaders are basically just an annoyance now reminding us of how good we had it. Almost lvl17 on PS4, now I can't log into the Destiny 2 servers, RIP rest of my planned night.

The shader system looks like some business people in activision decided to ruin a good thing by making them consumable, rather than skins. There is no way anyone on that development team went “yeah, this is a good system, lets charge money too”. That is some business people bullshit because they couldn’t move enough cosmetics in Destiny 1.

Interested to see how the “match making” for the raid goes. Still going to just find a community to raid with, just like last time. Some of the harder strikes were a chore in DI if you had shitty team mates. I can’t even fathom doing one of the raids with random internet people.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4197 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 19:44:23
September 11 2017 19:43 GMT
#70
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.

it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

I might hate myself for it later, but I couldn't take the wait, I bought Destiny 2 for the PS4.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 11 2017 19:48 GMT
#71
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.

it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

I might hate myself for it later, but I couldn't take the wait, I bought Destiny 2 for the PS4.

You are not alone. My wife wants to play on PC, but we won’t have time to play until late December or January. So I’ll just be a garbage human and own it on both platforms.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 12 2017 05:07 GMT
#72
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 21:16:27
September 12 2017 21:03 GMT
#73
apparently Destiny2 has 1.2 million concurrent players shortly after launch of the game.
is that good?
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.
it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

ya,
and the Honky Tonk Man is the "Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!"

https://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376

that $500 million is product shipped.. not sold. many months later ATVI bundled Destiny with Hearthstone claiming the sum total of both franchises brought in $850 million over the course of a year. Considering Hearthstone was built by a small staff in a "throwback to the garage programmer days of the 80s" and Destiny had 87 bazillion employees working on it for 5 years that's not a good game to be bundled along with.

ATVI's worst 10 week stretch on the stock market occurred starting from September 10,2014 right after Destiny was released.

ATVI's unwillingness to provide concrete financial #s indicates that the game has underperformed relative to expectations up to this point.
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

kinda reminds me of Borderlands skill trees.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 12 2017 21:14 GMT
#74
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

Skill trees? Each subclass has two states – aggressive and defensive. And that is a generalization. It is better than Destiny 1, which had a bunch of meanless options that barely changed things.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4197 Posts
September 12 2017 21:49 GMT
#75
On September 13 2017 06:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
apparently Destiny2 has 1.2 million concurrent players shortly after launch of the game.
is that good?
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.
it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

ya,
and the Honky Tonk Man is the "Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!"

https://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376

that $500 million is product shipped.. not sold. many months later ATVI bundled Destiny with Hearthstone claiming the sum total of both franchises brought in $850 million over the course of a year. Considering Hearthstone was built by a small staff in a "throwback to the garage programmer days of the 80s" and Destiny had 87 bazillion employees working on it for 5 years that's not a good game to be bundled along with.

ATVI's worst 10 week stretch on the stock market occurred starting from September 10,2014 right after Destiny was released.

ATVI's unwillingness to provide concrete financial #s indicates that the game has underperformed relative to expectations up to this point.
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

kinda reminds me of Borderlands skill trees.


500m product shipped is sold to a company like "ATVI", they got their money. And comparing it to Hearthstone is not really relevant. Hearthstone and any King game is going to be a shit ton more efficent in $ brought in per employee but that doesnt mean the AAA titles aren't worth doing.

Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 22:25:36
September 12 2017 22:13 GMT
#76
no, ATVI did not get their money. the games are provided on consignment. they did not sell $500 million. this consignment revenue model contributed to the fake "video game industry collapse of 1983" when retailers were selling $60 games for $5 because they were taking up too much space.

in the article i posted ATVI announced they sold $325 million in 5 days. However, here is the exact press release which is hte source of the article i posted.
http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=871349

Destiny sold-through more than $325 million worldwide in its first five days

On September 13 2017 06:49 lestye wrote:
Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.

no, Destiny is NOT a billion dollar franchise. Overwatch is a billion dollar franchise and ATVI announces that like 3 times a week.
i'm open minded though.. if you have an ATVI announcement that Destiny is a billion dollar franchise i'll change my position.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 12 2017 22:17 GMT
#77
On September 13 2017 06:49 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 06:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
apparently Destiny2 has 1.2 million concurrent players shortly after launch of the game.
is that good?
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.
it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

ya,
and the Honky Tonk Man is the "Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!"

https://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376

that $500 million is product shipped.. not sold. many months later ATVI bundled Destiny with Hearthstone claiming the sum total of both franchises brought in $850 million over the course of a year. Considering Hearthstone was built by a small staff in a "throwback to the garage programmer days of the 80s" and Destiny had 87 bazillion employees working on it for 5 years that's not a good game to be bundled along with.

ATVI's worst 10 week stretch on the stock market occurred starting from September 10,2014 right after Destiny was released.

ATVI's unwillingness to provide concrete financial #s indicates that the game has underperformed relative to expectations up to this point.
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

kinda reminds me of Borderlands skill trees.


500m product shipped is sold to a company like "ATVI", they got their money. And comparing it to Hearthstone is not really relevant. Hearthstone and any King game is going to be a shit ton more efficent in $ brought in per employee but that doesnt mean the AAA titles aren't worth doing.

Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.

Don't engage him.

Are people still salty about the consumable shaders thing? Or did it turn out that they drop frequently enough not to be an issue
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 22:30:12
September 12 2017 22:18 GMT
#78
In an earlier post i noted D2 had 1.2 million concurrents shortly after its release date.

The Division had 1.2 million concurrents shortly after its release date. Thus, Destiny2 prolly sold at a similar level to the Division in its first few days. The Division sold $330 million USD in 5 days. so that's pretty good then. But, that's not Billion dollar franchise territory.

Destiny1 released September 9, 2014 and we got a press release about $325 million in revenue 8 days later on September 17, 2014. It'll be interesting to see if ATVI publishes a press release in the next few days and what the #s are.
On September 13 2017 07:17 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 06:49 lestye wrote:
On September 13 2017 06:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
apparently Destiny2 has 1.2 million concurrent players shortly after launch of the game.
is that good?
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.
it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

ya,
and the Honky Tonk Man is the "Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!"

https://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376

that $500 million is product shipped.. not sold. many months later ATVI bundled Destiny with Hearthstone claiming the sum total of both franchises brought in $850 million over the course of a year. Considering Hearthstone was built by a small staff in a "throwback to the garage programmer days of the 80s" and Destiny had 87 bazillion employees working on it for 5 years that's not a good game to be bundled along with.

ATVI's worst 10 week stretch on the stock market occurred starting from September 10,2014 right after Destiny was released.

ATVI's unwillingness to provide concrete financial #s indicates that the game has underperformed relative to expectations up to this point.
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

kinda reminds me of Borderlands skill trees.


500m product shipped is sold to a company like "ATVI", they got their money. And comparing it to Hearthstone is not really relevant. Hearthstone and any King game is going to be a shit ton more efficent in $ brought in per employee but that doesnt mean the AAA titles aren't worth doing.

Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.

Don't engage him.

Are people still salty about the consumable shaders thing? Or did it turn out that they drop frequently enough not to be an issue

ya my fake ATVI press releases stating false sales facts are really just fake news.
http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=871349
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 12 2017 22:33 GMT
#79
On September 13 2017 07:17 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 06:49 lestye wrote:
On September 13 2017 06:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
apparently Destiny2 has 1.2 million concurrent players shortly after launch of the game.
is that good?
On September 12 2017 04:43 lestye wrote:
On September 12 2017 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ATVI never did produce any concrete financials for D1. A strong indicator it did not meet expectations. ATVI has yet to reveal any concrete Destiny2 #s.
it'll be interesting to see if they respond to this...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-11-destiny-2-is-uks-biggest-launch-of-2017-but-falls-well-short-of-original

I can't imagine that being true. Activision said "'Most Successful New Video Game Franchise Launch of All Time'", it brought in 500m on its first day.

ya,
and the Honky Tonk Man is the "Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!"

https://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376

that $500 million is product shipped.. not sold. many months later ATVI bundled Destiny with Hearthstone claiming the sum total of both franchises brought in $850 million over the course of a year. Considering Hearthstone was built by a small staff in a "throwback to the garage programmer days of the 80s" and Destiny had 87 bazillion employees working on it for 5 years that's not a good game to be bundled along with.

ATVI's worst 10 week stretch on the stock market occurred starting from September 10,2014 right after Destiny was released.

ATVI's unwillingness to provide concrete financial #s indicates that the game has underperformed relative to expectations up to this point.
On September 12 2017 14:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
These "skill trees" or w/e they are called are confusing as hell. -.-

kinda reminds me of Borderlands skill trees.


500m product shipped is sold to a company like "ATVI", they got their money. And comparing it to Hearthstone is not really relevant. Hearthstone and any King game is going to be a shit ton more efficent in $ brought in per employee but that doesnt mean the AAA titles aren't worth doing.

Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.

Don't engage him.

Are people still salty about the consumable shaders thing? Or did it turn out that they drop frequently enough not to be an issue

I don't know if people are super mad about it. It seems that the shaders are not removed if you unequip the item, which used to happen(or people claim). I think the biggest problem people have is that it is really hard to go and find a dope shader and work toward it. It was really easy to go to a vendor, pick a shader and see how awesome you would look if you had it.

There was a fun part of the community really into shader fashion, since they are all associated with different factions. I think they wish there was a little more structure and a way to see all the shaders that exist.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4197 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 22:38:58
September 12 2017 22:38 GMT
#80
On September 13 2017 07:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no, ATVI did not get their money. the games are provided on consignment. they did not sell $500 million. this consignment revenue model contributed to the fake "video game industry collapse of 1983" when retailers were selling $60 games for $5 because they were taking up too much space.

in the article i posted ATVI announced they sold $325 million in 5 days. However, here is the exact press release which is hte source of the article i posted.
http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=871349

Destiny sold-through more than $325 million worldwide in its first five days

Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 06:49 lestye wrote:
Looking at all those other metrics posted, the CEO of Activision said that it had great sales, it was profitable Day 1, biggest new franchise launch, its a billion dollar franchise, incredible engagement, I think its fair to say it did great.

no, Destiny is NOT a billion dollar franchise. Overwatch is a billion dollar franchise and ATVI announces that like 3 times a week.
i'm open minded though.. if you have an ATVI announcement that Destiny is a billion dollar franchise i'll change my position.

"we were able to be profitable from day one. And we think it’s only a matter of time now before it becomes our next billion-dollar franchise." from the CEO of Activision. I'd have to assume with its DLC and the like, its one of their 8 billion dollar franchises. Its not proof, but I think given how much they talk up and market Destiny, it'd be the case.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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