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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
January 09 2020 16:22 GMT
#2801
Really like the idea of dlc in pokemon
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 17:02:27
January 09 2020 17:02 GMT
#2802
Better than having to buy a 3rd version with minimal differences for full price. Unless somebody is holding out for the hypothetical upgraded version, which we know isn't happening now, it's a net positive. Doesn't stop the core of the game from being bad or fully alleviate Dexit though.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 09 2020 18:48 GMT
#2803
Buying new games + DLC is more expensive than buying the old games + the upgraded version of the old games

40+40 vs 60+30

And it seems pokémon Home is a paid thing ONTOP of Nintendo Switch Online Service
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
January 09 2020 19:03 GMT
#2804
3ds games werent 40
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 19:12:07
January 09 2020 19:11 GMT
#2805
They were $40 yeah.

First of all, Nintendo's own website: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pokemon-sun-3ds/

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But of course, they could've changed the price since release (Although, Nintendo typically doesn't do that)

So let's look at some articles (which are from when the games released) about various 3DS pokémon games:

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/02-11-2017-pokemon-ultra-sun-and-ultra-moon-release-date-price-new-monsters-new-content-everything-we-know
Pokemon Ultra Sun and Moon Essential Information:
Release Date: November 17, 2017
Price: $39.99
Platform: Nintendo 3DS


https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/features/pokemon-sun-and-moon-release-date-price-and-everything-else-you-should-know-1627191
Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon will be available in the US at $40 (approximately Rs. 2,700) each.


https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20141027005198/en/Nintendo-News-Catch-Pokémon-Omega-Ruby-Pokémon
Separately, each game sells at a suggested retail price of $39.99


So uh, yeah, 3DS pokémon games were 40.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 19:34:57
January 09 2020 19:33 GMT
#2806
Doesn't matter, since if they were Switch games they'd be $60. It's a matter of spending 2x of 1.5x the game cost.

Home is a non-issue anyway, since you needed to pay for Box too.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 19:42:21
January 09 2020 19:40 GMT
#2807
I don't see how it's a non-issue. Paying for pokémon bank was idiotic to begin with. And paying for it again now in a new form when we also have to pay for nintendo switch online ontop to even have access to the online stuff, is just insult to injury. Pokémon bank was always horribly overpriced for a feature that stores KB worth of data for each user.

You could probably store the data of tens of thousands of users with 1 GB worth of storage, lmao.

I just don't think it's appropriate to lock your game behind nintendo switch online and then adding another subscription feature ontop of that to transfer pokémon. Especially for a feature I'm sure will be as barebones and lacking as bank was. Not to mention how pokémon bank would randomly wipe people's data if they didn't stay subscribed. Woops, better wipe KB worth of data because people aren't actively staying subscribed.

And of course it matters when the new games don't have significantly more content (and IMO have less content) than the 3DS games. So you're paying more for less because.... It's on the switch? Not really a compelling reason to pay more for less.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 09 2020 19:55 GMT
#2808
On January 10 2020 04:40 Unleashing wrote:
I don't see how it's a non-issue. Paying for pokémon bank was idiotic to begin with. And paying for it again now in a new form when we also have to pay for nintendo switch online ontop to even have access to the online stuff, is just insult to injury. Pokémon bank was always horribly overpriced for a feature that stores KB worth of data for each user.

You could probably store the data of tens of thousands of users with 1 GB worth of storage, lmao.

I just don't think it's appropriate to lock your game behind nintendo switch online and then adding another subscription feature ontop of that to transfer pokémon. Especially for a feature I'm sure will be as barebones and lacking as bank was. Not to mention how pokémon bank would randomly wipe people's data if they didn't stay subscribed. Woops, better wipe KB worth of data because people aren't actively staying subscribed.

And of course it matters when the new games don't have significantly more content (and IMO have less content) than the 3DS games. So you're paying more for less because.... It's on the switch? Not really a compelling reason to pay more for less.

A console pokemon game is going to cost $60 regardless of its content. The idea of a main series pokemon game for $40 MSRP is dead. That doesn't mean that I give Sword and Shield a pass for being shitty.

I agree paying for Bank was shitty, but that's old news by now. I haven't seen anything about Home being locked behind the online subscription(though to be fair, I haven't been looking either because there's been no point).
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26775 Posts
January 10 2020 00:09 GMT
#2809
On January 10 2020 01:22 sharkie wrote:
Really like the idea of dlc in pokemon

I guess it depends on how it’s implemented, but if any game I can think of that is most suitable for a core game + DLC model over sequels it is Pokemon.

Not saying you don’t do sequels eventually, but if gives space to actually overhaul things and in the interim add content to it
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 10 2020 04:06 GMT
#2810
I think unless you're going to hardcore change up the main plot, DLC is superior to additional version. Ultra Sun and Moon, for example, should have been DLC and not an entire game.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
January 10 2020 09:01 GMT
#2811
Fairly predictable. After passes/DLC for Zelda, Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, ... This is Nintendo's model of choice now.
I've not bought any DLCs yet, usually by the time a DLC comes out I've finished the game and long moved on to other games.
I don't really care as long as the base game is still a finished product.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
January 10 2020 22:25 GMT
#2812
The idea is that at $40, they could release a second version and enough people would buy it to be worthwhile. At $60, they probably felt that the higher price tag would lose them a lot of sales, so they went the DLC route. $30 is a lot, but we'll see how much content they provide for that

I just worry that the story will be very un-fun. I find the post-game story content in most pokemon games is balanced OK if you just hop right in with your in-game team immediately after beating the champion, but a lot of the time, by the time I feel like finishing the post-game story, I have L100 max EV max IV pokemon with optimal abilities/move sets, so the game becomes super un-fun. I can handicap myself (maybe catch 6 random raid pokemon and use that as my in-game team) but there's just some mental "I can just use my L100 Eternatus and L100 Zacian if I hit a wall" block that I won't be able to get over.

I'm kinda hoping that you kinda start over with a new team when you reach the new island, then your island box and your regular boxes merge after you finish the story so that the story-mode is kinda siloed and you can't just roll through the game with L100s

They've also said nothing about Battle Tower. It's terrible in this game and I really hope they either improve it or provide some new battle facility that's fun
Trucy Wright is hot
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
January 11 2020 12:00 GMT
#2813
I'm just happy to see the Rescue remake. Not because I want to play Rescue, but because this means I can probably expect Explorers Dx next year, and that is very exciting.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 12 2020 21:54 GMT
#2814
On January 10 2020 04:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2020 04:40 Unleashing wrote:
I don't see how it's a non-issue. Paying for pokémon bank was idiotic to begin with. And paying for it again now in a new form when we also have to pay for nintendo switch online ontop to even have access to the online stuff, is just insult to injury. Pokémon bank was always horribly overpriced for a feature that stores KB worth of data for each user.

You could probably store the data of tens of thousands of users with 1 GB worth of storage, lmao.

I just don't think it's appropriate to lock your game behind nintendo switch online and then adding another subscription feature ontop of that to transfer pokémon. Especially for a feature I'm sure will be as barebones and lacking as bank was. Not to mention how pokémon bank would randomly wipe people's data if they didn't stay subscribed. Woops, better wipe KB worth of data because people aren't actively staying subscribed.

And of course it matters when the new games don't have significantly more content (and IMO have less content) than the 3DS games. So you're paying more for less because.... It's on the switch? Not really a compelling reason to pay more for less.

A console pokemon game is going to cost $60 regardless of its content. The idea of a main series pokemon game for $40 MSRP is dead. That doesn't mean that I give Sword and Shield a pass for being shitty.

I agree paying for Bank was shitty, but that's old news by now. I haven't seen anything about Home being locked behind the online subscription(though to be fair, I haven't been looking either because there's been no point).


As shitty as paying for bank is, it's only $5 a year. What annoys me is having to pay for home and then maybe having to pay for the online subscription every time I want to access it. I don't know either if it's going to be required but it seems to be more likely than not. I don't play multiplayer games so I don't have any reason to pay for the online subscription otherwise.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 12 2020 21:59 GMT
#2815
On January 13 2020 06:54 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2020 04:55 Gahlo wrote:
On January 10 2020 04:40 Unleashing wrote:
I don't see how it's a non-issue. Paying for pokémon bank was idiotic to begin with. And paying for it again now in a new form when we also have to pay for nintendo switch online ontop to even have access to the online stuff, is just insult to injury. Pokémon bank was always horribly overpriced for a feature that stores KB worth of data for each user.

You could probably store the data of tens of thousands of users with 1 GB worth of storage, lmao.

I just don't think it's appropriate to lock your game behind nintendo switch online and then adding another subscription feature ontop of that to transfer pokémon. Especially for a feature I'm sure will be as barebones and lacking as bank was. Not to mention how pokémon bank would randomly wipe people's data if they didn't stay subscribed. Woops, better wipe KB worth of data because people aren't actively staying subscribed.

And of course it matters when the new games don't have significantly more content (and IMO have less content) than the 3DS games. So you're paying more for less because.... It's on the switch? Not really a compelling reason to pay more for less.

A console pokemon game is going to cost $60 regardless of its content. The idea of a main series pokemon game for $40 MSRP is dead. That doesn't mean that I give Sword and Shield a pass for being shitty.

I agree paying for Bank was shitty, but that's old news by now. I haven't seen anything about Home being locked behind the online subscription(though to be fair, I haven't been looking either because there's been no point).


As shitty as paying for bank is, it's only $5 a year. What annoys me is having to pay for home and then maybe having to pay for the online subscription every time I want to access it. I don't know either if it's going to be required but it seems to be more likely than not. I don't play multiplayer games so I don't have any reason to pay for the online subscription otherwise.

I fully agree on that.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
January 16 2020 00:38 GMT
#2816
I guess we'll find out pretty soon. Home's coming out in Feb and they said they're going to announce stuff before its release. It would be really scummy if they locked Home behind the NSO subscription. Personally, I'm too addicted to Splatoon 2 to stop my subscription but it would be dumb to force single player gamers to subscribe to the online thing

I also wanna know if Bank subscriptions will roll over.

I think they'll do the right thing in both cases, but the silence is making me a bit anxious
Trucy Wright is hot
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
January 16 2020 20:46 GMT
#2817
Byleth revealed as 5th Ultimate DLC

The Three Houses story dlc also revealed
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26775 Posts
January 16 2020 23:34 GMT
#2818
Does anyone here have any experience with designating primary accounts and whatnot?

I set up my kid’s Switch and account leading up to Christmas and added my Nintendo ID to it. Which set his console as the primary one, so he can play all my games without restriction.

He is moving house at present and my understanding is he can still play my games if I switch it back, but it requires a WiFi connection, and me not to be playing the same things simultaneously.

Which will be fine to switch back when he gets internet in the new place, but is there anything I need to worry about here? As far as I can gather save data etc is cloud saved (and I got him an account with Nintendo online) but just wondering if there’s anything I’ve overlooked. Cheers folks!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 30 2020 18:09 GMT
#2819
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
January 31 2020 22:46 GMT
#2820
What yall think about the new animal crossing switch
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