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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
June 13 2019 11:50 GMT
#2681
I dont care about that at all tbh. I never wanted to go for all 800+ and if some pokemon i love are not in it then i will just for new favourites. I really dont understand the outcry
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 13 2019 13:00 GMT
#2682
I've been maintaining a living dex (A rather extensive one) and I find great joy in adding to it every new generation, and this just feels like a proper kick in the groin

I also have some pokémon I've been transferring from game to game for more than 10 years, and if even one of them can't be transferred I'd feel pretty bummed out

People are different and it should be somewhat easy to understand that for some people not being able to get their favourites into the new games is a major bummer
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-13 14:12:58
June 13 2019 14:12 GMT
#2683
Whats a living dex?

I understand its a bummer but a major one? Nope, no idea..
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4402 Posts
June 13 2019 14:33 GMT
#2684
On June 13 2019 23:12 sharkie wrote:
Whats a living dex?

I understand its a bummer but a major one? Nope, no idea..

Having one of every single pokemon in order in your PC/box. I had one for the first 6 gens, took hundreds of hours to make across X, Y, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. Considering how long it takes to make one, it makes sense for people to be upset.

The other issue is that certain pokemon can learn moves in old generations but not new ones. For example, Dratini could learn Extreme Speed, a very useful move for its evolution Dragonite, in Heart Gold/Soul Silver but not in future games. To have a Dragonite for battles with that move requires transferring from an old game. It will limit the move pool for competitive battling. Same with chain breeding moves.
Sucker for nostalgia
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
June 13 2019 14:53 GMT
#2685
It will actually give competitive battling a much needed change imo. "Oh new gen doesnt give me the move, no worries i get it from old gen" shouldnt really be the norm...
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
June 13 2019 17:26 GMT
#2686
I had no idea Pokémon had a competitive scene that ran this deep.
Skol
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 13 2019 19:28 GMT
#2687
I think it's a decision that had to be made if they want to continue making new gens of pokemon.
Updating graphics and adding animations for 1000+ pokemon vs doing it for 200 is quite a big difference.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 13 2019 19:38 GMT
#2688
On June 14 2019 04:28 Laurens wrote:
I think it's a decision that had to be made if they want to continue making new gens of pokemon.
Updating graphics and adding animations for 1000+ pokemon vs doing it for 200 is quite a big difference.

The models and walk/run cycles for pokemon have remained the same since gen6. That's why gen6 ran kinda iffy in battle, and with the trainers, gen7 was painful if more than 2 pokemon were on the screen and made 0 use of 3D outside of the camera. Literally the only thing they're doing model-wise in gen8 is making models for the new pokemon which they'd have to do anyway.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 13 2019 20:19 GMT
#2689
On June 14 2019 04:38 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2019 04:28 Laurens wrote:
I think it's a decision that had to be made if they want to continue making new gens of pokemon.
Updating graphics and adding animations for 1000+ pokemon vs doing it for 200 is quite a big difference.

The models and walk/run cycles for pokemon have remained the same since gen6. That's why gen6 ran kinda iffy in battle, and with the trainers, gen7 was painful if more than 2 pokemon were on the screen and made 0 use of 3D outside of the camera. Literally the only thing they're doing model-wise in gen8 is making models for the new pokemon which they'd have to do anyway.


Okay and what about gens 9, 10, …? They will continue to run with the gen 6 models?
As I said, decision that's necessary for the future.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 13 2019 21:05 GMT
#2690
On June 14 2019 05:19 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2019 04:38 Gahlo wrote:
On June 14 2019 04:28 Laurens wrote:
I think it's a decision that had to be made if they want to continue making new gens of pokemon.
Updating graphics and adding animations for 1000+ pokemon vs doing it for 200 is quite a big difference.

The models and walk/run cycles for pokemon have remained the same since gen6. That's why gen6 ran kinda iffy in battle, and with the trainers, gen7 was painful if more than 2 pokemon were on the screen and made 0 use of 3D outside of the camera. Literally the only thing they're doing model-wise in gen8 is making models for the new pokemon which they'd have to do anyway.


Okay and what about gens 9, 10, …? They will continue to run with the gen 6 models?
As I said, decision that's necessary for the future.

All you'd really need to do is retexture.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
June 13 2019 21:41 GMT
#2691
On June 13 2019 23:33 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2019 23:12 sharkie wrote:
Whats a living dex?

I understand its a bummer but a major one? Nope, no idea..

Having one of every single pokemon in order in your PC/box. I had one for the first 6 gens, took hundreds of hours to make across X, Y, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. Considering how long it takes to make one, it makes sense for people to be upset.

The other issue is that certain pokemon can learn moves in old generations but not new ones. For example, Dratini could learn Extreme Speed, a very useful move for its evolution Dragonite, in Heart Gold/Soul Silver but not in future games. To have a Dragonite for battles with that move requires transferring from an old game. It will limit the move pool for competitive battling. Same with chain breeding moves.


You'd still be able to transfer the Dratini forward via Home. The issue is if they decide not to put Dratini in the Galar dex, you won't be able to move your ESpeed Dratini forward at all until a future release when Dratini is legal

It's not clear to me if this is a new philosophy going forward, or if they're going to add all the pokemon in a future game (Gen 4 remake or Pokemon Spear/Pokemon Tonfa)

If it's a time constraint thing, it makes sense to me to lengthen how long a generation last to give them time to put everything in, and release something else each holiday season (remake, third version, experimental game ala Let's Go) to buy time for the new generation
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 13 2019 22:01 GMT
#2692
There is no time issue with older pokemon. It's already done.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
June 14 2019 01:37 GMT
#2693
The confirmation of the leaks makes me incredibly excited for Fire Emblem Three Houses
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 14 2019 04:04 GMT
#2694
Game looks good.

The fact that the leaks were real caught everyone off guard though.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 14 2019 05:32 GMT
#2695
Elaborate? I haven't been following any details at all, but am looking forward to FE on Switch quite a bit.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4402 Posts
June 14 2019 05:48 GMT
#2696
On June 13 2019 23:53 sharkie wrote:
It will actually give competitive battling a much needed change imo. "Oh new gen doesnt give me the move, no worries i get it from old gen" shouldnt really be the norm...

I agree. Plus getting rid of Z moves is a fantastic decision too. My least favourite mechanic.
Sucker for nostalgia
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-14 10:50:57
June 14 2019 06:53 GMT
#2697
On June 14 2019 14:32 Duka08 wrote:
Elaborate? I haven't been following any details at all, but am looking forward to FE on Switch quite a bit.

+ Show Spoiler +
Basically, the school setting is a red herring and the story is actually fairly dark

the leak included details such as the 5 year time skip that comes with the characters getting new portraits, which was confirmed at E3 so it seems likely the leak is legit
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
June 14 2019 19:29 GMT
#2698
On June 14 2019 15:53 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2019 14:32 Duka08 wrote:
Elaborate? I haven't been following any details at all, but am looking forward to FE on Switch quite a bit.

+ Show Spoiler +
Basically, the school setting is a red herring and the story is actually fairly dark

the leak included details such as the 5 year time skip that comes with the characters getting new portraits, which was confirmed at E3 so it seems likely the leak is legit

+ Show Spoiler +
the school is only the first 12 chapters
Dmitri's story is looking tragic/dark
Edelgard is giving me serious Dany Targaryen vibes
Claude is basically Eliwood with a wyvern
Students will die both before and after the timeskip
There are at least 3 non converging routes think fates not fe7
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 15 2019 19:54 GMT
#2699
After being disappointed in Fates, I'm slowly warming up to Three Houses with some of the recent reveals. I just hope there's actually a good reason to join all three houses instead of your main character going full retard on two routes.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45861 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-15 21:15:10
June 15 2019 21:13 GMT
#2700
On June 13 2019 20:50 sharkie wrote:
I dont care about that at all tbh. I never wanted to go for all 800+ and if some pokemon i love are not in it then i will just for new favourites. I really dont understand the outcry


I only played Gen 1 and Gen 2, and Sword/Shield was going to be a way for me to make up for the missed generations. Since that can't happen anymore, I'll probably just play the hell out of Banjo-Kazooie on Smash and other awesome games.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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