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On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong?
They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible.
Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint.
Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none.
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On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none.
Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math.
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On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math.
Except people have met in the exact same spot and not been able to see each other. The closest to multiplayer is that you can name things and others can see that it's been renamed.
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On August 15 2016 11:03 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Except people have met in the exact same spot and not been able to see each other. The closest to multiplayer is that you can name things and others can see that it's been renamed.
As I said before, it's been alluded to it being a server issue as to why they couldn't see each other. But we don't know for sure. There's no official comment on it really.
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I have a question about the game. I bought a ps4 this afternoon and will be getting NMS once the system gets here so I don't have PSN. From what I've read you don't need PSN to play but "need internet to upload your discoveries". Does that mean I just need wifi to upload discoveries or that I won't be able to upload my discoveries unless I pay for PSN?
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On August 15 2016 12:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I have a question about the game. I bought a ps4 this afternoon and will be getting NMS once the system gets here so I don't have PSN. From what I've read you don't need PSN to play but "need internet to upload your discoveries". Does that mean I just need wifi to upload discoveries or that I won't be able to upload my discoveries unless I pay for PSN?
Just need to connect your PS4 to the internet so you can upload your discoveries to the servers. Don't need PSN at all.
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On August 15 2016 12:30 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 12:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I have a question about the game. I bought a ps4 this afternoon and will be getting NMS once the system gets here so I don't have PSN. From what I've read you don't need PSN to play but "need internet to upload your discoveries". Does that mean I just need wifi to upload discoveries or that I won't be able to upload my discoveries unless I pay for PSN? Just need to connect your PS4 to the internet so you can upload your discoveries to the servers. Don't need PSN at all.
Many thanks, hyped as fuck
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On August 15 2016 11:56 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 11:03 Birdie wrote:On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Except people have met in the exact same spot and not been able to see each other. The closest to multiplayer is that you can name things and others can see that it's been renamed. As I said before, it's been alluded to it being a server issue as to why they couldn't see each other. But we don't know for sure. There's no official comment on it really.
this isn't meant to be anything but inquisitive because I don't think I know what you're talking about.
is it correct that you're saying multiplayer exists in the capacity that I could run into another player because the dev team says so, but that so far where this has been tested we're just assuming it's a bug?
that seems pretty flimsy.
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On August 15 2016 21:52 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 11:56 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 11:03 Birdie wrote:On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Except people have met in the exact same spot and not been able to see each other. The closest to multiplayer is that you can name things and others can see that it's been renamed. As I said before, it's been alluded to it being a server issue as to why they couldn't see each other. But we don't know for sure. There's no official comment on it really. this isn't meant to be anything but inquisitive because I don't think I know what you're talking about. is it correct that you're saying multiplayer exists in the capacity that I could run into another player because the dev team says so, but that so far where this has been tested we're just assuming it's a bug? that seems pretty flimsy.
Last I heard people digging around in the games files have found a seemingly unfinished player model. It looks like multiplayer not existing isn't just a server issue.
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On August 15 2016 22:01 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 21:52 brian wrote:On August 15 2016 11:56 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 11:03 Birdie wrote:On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Except people have met in the exact same spot and not been able to see each other. The closest to multiplayer is that you can name things and others can see that it's been renamed. As I said before, it's been alluded to it being a server issue as to why they couldn't see each other. But we don't know for sure. There's no official comment on it really. this isn't meant to be anything but inquisitive because I don't think I know what you're talking about. is it correct that you're saying multiplayer exists in the capacity that I could run into another player because the dev team says so, but that so far where this has been tested we're just assuming it's a bug? that seems pretty flimsy. Last I heard people digging around in the games files have found a seemingly unfinished player model. It looks like multiplayer not existing isn't just a server issue.
It is so unlikely to ever happen I can’t see it being a priority. I bet it was some idea they hoped to have in the game early on, but was not practicable once they got to launch.
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On August 15 2016 22:20 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 22:01 Gorsameth wrote:On August 15 2016 21:52 brian wrote:On August 15 2016 11:56 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 11:03 Birdie wrote:On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Except people have met in the exact same spot and not been able to see each other. The closest to multiplayer is that you can name things and others can see that it's been renamed. As I said before, it's been alluded to it being a server issue as to why they couldn't see each other. But we don't know for sure. There's no official comment on it really. this isn't meant to be anything but inquisitive because I don't think I know what you're talking about. is it correct that you're saying multiplayer exists in the capacity that I could run into another player because the dev team says so, but that so far where this has been tested we're just assuming it's a bug? that seems pretty flimsy. Last I heard people digging around in the games files have found a seemingly unfinished player model. It looks like multiplayer not existing isn't just a server issue. It is so unlikely to ever happen I can’t see it being a priority. I bet it was some idea they hoped to have in the game early on, but was not practicable once they got to launch.
Yes, so unlikely that people managed to do it within hours of the game going live.
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On August 15 2016 22:21 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 22:20 Plansix wrote:On August 15 2016 22:01 Gorsameth wrote:On August 15 2016 21:52 brian wrote:On August 15 2016 11:56 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 11:03 Birdie wrote:On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Except people have met in the exact same spot and not been able to see each other. The closest to multiplayer is that you can name things and others can see that it's been renamed. As I said before, it's been alluded to it being a server issue as to why they couldn't see each other. But we don't know for sure. There's no official comment on it really. this isn't meant to be anything but inquisitive because I don't think I know what you're talking about. is it correct that you're saying multiplayer exists in the capacity that I could run into another player because the dev team says so, but that so far where this has been tested we're just assuming it's a bug? that seems pretty flimsy. Last I heard people digging around in the games files have found a seemingly unfinished player model. It looks like multiplayer not existing isn't just a server issue. It is so unlikely to ever happen I can’t see it being a priority. I bet it was some idea they hoped to have in the game early on, but was not practicable once they got to launch. Yes, so unlikely that people managed to do it within hours of the game going live.
That is one set of players out of how many? There are only so many man hours the teams has to finish the game and that would be spending tons of hours debugging and testing a system that literally 2 people would have used. At the expense of other bug testing. And if it exists, what does it do beyond you can stand and see another player, but never communicate or interact in any meaningful way.
It’s a neat idea, but NMS is a lonely solo experience where you come across the writings of players who came before you. There are so many other things I want in this game. Like leaving journals behind for other players who might find them. Or decorating my cockpit with cool photos of planets I landed on.
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It’s a neat idea, but NMS is a lonely solo experience where you come across the writings of players who came before you. There are so many other things I want in this game. Like leaving journals behind for other players who might find them. Or decorating my cockpit with cool photos of planets I landed on.
That would be so awesome. Or have a slightly larger ship where you can actually walk around in a bit where you put trophies etc...
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On August 16 2016 01:07 B.I.G. wrote:Show nested quote +It’s a neat idea, but NMS is a lonely solo experience where you come across the writings of players who came before you. There are so many other things I want in this game. Like leaving journals behind for other players who might find them. Or decorating my cockpit with cool photos of planets I landed on.
That would be so awesome. Or have a slightly larger ship where you can actually walk around in a bit where you put trophies etc...
They are talking about freighters that you own. If it worked like a space station that you brought with you from system to system, that would be amazing. I am really enjoying my hour or so every night with the game and I would love it more if I could have a cool home in the sky to land on every night.
If you could have a weird zoo where you collected pet animals, even better. Maybe an art section to show to display your photos. Or other peoples photos from around the galaxy.
Fuck multiplayer meet us, just give me a condo in space.
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Lol yeah. Make it some good ol' survival. Add in some planets with cataclysmic events (like the flamewall sunrise in Riddick) for example. How cool would it be if you are minding your own business on a planet and you get a warning for a 5000+ degrees sunrise and you gotta get your ass off of that planet...
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On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math.
Until I see a video of two players interacting with each other in realtime I will assume that Multiplayer is not part of this game.
Any other stance on this is ridiculous.
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On August 16 2016 03:11 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Until I see a video of two players interacting with each other in realtime I will assume that Multiplayer is not part of this game. Any other stance on this is ridiculous.
Yeah, I mean the game doesn't even have a 3d model of the playable character, how would another player be represented?
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have people who've seen the review still spent money on this game?
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On August 16 2016 03:37 ROOTFayth wrote:
have people who've seen the review still spent money on this game?
Ofcourse, some people are fine with what the game is and enjoying it.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
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On August 16 2016 03:11 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 10:44 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 09:23 dae wrote:On August 15 2016 07:26 Zooper31 wrote:On August 15 2016 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
the marketing was intentionally deceptive specifically about multiplayer. How so? I know a set of people met in the game in real time and couldn't see each other. But that has been alluded to being a server issue, though we don't know for sure quite yet without an official response. They said the game was multiplayer as in, you could meet other players. They said there wasn't any PvP action and you should never really even expect to meet another player. So basically it's a singleplayer game, how was that wrong? They said multiplayer was possible but rare but afaik it's literally just impossible. Why would a dev spend time on multiplayer that most players won't ever experience. It doesn't make much sense from a priority standpoint. Either they should have put effort into it and made mechanics to make it more common/likely, or just said "no there won't be multiplayer. Better then saying "yes there will be" and then having none. Multiplayer is possible, you can meet other players. If you wanted multiplayer as in PvP they said that wasn't going to be in the game. They've always said meeting other players was going to be an almost impossible task seeing as there are 18 quintillion planets and starting points are random, do the math. Until I see a video of two players interacting with each other in realtime I will assume that Multiplayer is not part of this game. Any other stance on this is ridiculous.
There isn't meant to be any interaction though, even if they saw each other and there wasn't server issues and/or unfinished player models not yet in the game.
Maybe that's why people were mad there was no "multiplayer" even though they were told exactly what it was gonna be and to expect a single player experience.
So many people were uninformed about this game and then berate it for being exactly what it set out to be. It seriously is a very provocative game so far apparently. It's by far from getting any GotY award, but it's far from the pile of trash lots of people say it to be. Future updates are only going to make this game truly shine but it's a wonderful experience as it stands for people who enjoy exploring new worlds.
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