EPTNo Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) - Page 16
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On August 19 2016 23:58 Plansix wrote: But I don’t agree with the conclusion that they indented to deceive people to make money. I think they over promised and didn’t make it. I believe they should have rolled by expectations and be clear about what their game was. But I don’t think they created this game with the intent to deceive people. You are entitled to believe that, but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with you. Eh it seems to me that it is pretty clear that there was intent to deceive. It's very difficult to prove, but the evidence is clearly there. From the mountain of promises made to the rather astronomical claims made about how the game would work it's hard to believe what was being told to the public was ever a realistic view of what the game was like in any state. Simply put some of the things that the devs claimed about the game where basically never going to be true. There were also just so many vague statements made and semi-back tracking about major features while never really confirming one way or another. There is clear evidence that very misleading statements were still being made only a month or two before release. I guess there was a lack of press review copies being made available widely, at least for PC idk what was available for PS4. Then the reactions by the devs over the leaked copies that were being streamed pre-release, and the promises that there was going to be a day 0 patch. It all just screams that there was quite deliberate actions taken to keep as much hype for the game going pre-launch as possible, despite what the end product might actually be like. Do I think they made this game with the intent to decieve? No, probably not. However I imagine that at some point in development they realized they were never going to be able to deliver on what they were promising and then made the choice to ride the hype and keep the truth hidden to maximize pre-sales. Selling their product for 60$ seems like a clear choice to maximize on that, when it is very clearly not worth that amount in the games current state. In the end though it's the age old saying, "Buyer beware" | ||
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brian
United States9641 Posts
if I sell pens to a thousand people telling them it'll write forever and it doesn't that's a scam. if I scam a thousand people willfully and they come back and want their money back 'aw shucks you got me this time here's your cash' that doesn't make it any less of a scam just because they figured it out and I gave it back to them. the best part is as a good little con artist I know 80% of the people I conned are gonna lose the pen before it runs out so I still make a quick buck. meh. ah I see the defense has shifted on intent. in that case carry on. | ||
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FFGenerations
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brian
United States9641 Posts
me and it had a lot of capital letters. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 20 2016 01:37 brian wrote: I still don't agree with plansix's argument that remediation is all that happens. if I sell pens to a thousand people telling them it'll write forever and it doesn't that's a scam. if I scam a thousand people willfully and they come back and want their money back 'aw shucks you got me this time here's your cash' that doesn't make it any less of a scam just because they figured it out and I gave it back to them. the best part is as a good little con artist I know 80% of the people I conned are gonna lose the pen before it runs out so I still make a quick buck. meh. ah I see the defense has shifted on intent. in that case carry on. Once again, what would you like to happen? People can be angry. That is fine and totally acceptable. But what are people looking for? Does Shaun Murray need to go to jail for lying to video game fans? Does Hello Games need to be destroyed for the good of video games and to teach all these developers a lesson? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
and then they get to go through the motions of being shocked, stunned, dismayed and disillusioned. it all makes for some great theatre. of course now i'm " victim blaming "  | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
http://uk.businessinsider.com/false-advertising-scandals-2016-3 | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
this thread is a hoot to read  | ||
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FFGenerations
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
After reading it I could understand why people are upset. Before I was like this is exactly the game I thought they would make from what they showed and i know of the developer, why would anyone think it would be more. Atleast console is enjoying a genre they don't have alot of. Its a bad thing at the same time though, since Sony will probably think they done everything right. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On August 20 2016 01:51 Plansix wrote: Once again, what would you like to happen? People can be angry. That is fine and totally acceptable. But what are people looking for? Does Shaun Murray need to go to jail for lying to video game fans? Does Hello Games need to be destroyed for the good of video games and to teach all these developers a lesson? I didn't pre-order No Man's Sky and I will probably end up buying it on sale when it is fixed on PC, but I think it is totally reasonable for public outrage to result in Hello Games being run out of the industry. In my mind, there is no question that they are mostly to blame for the ridiculous hype that was built around this game, and in the end they delivered a subpar product, even if you ignore most of the promises. In the end, these problems will only go away completely if people stop preordering games, which they probably never will. But I have no problems watching dishonest studios crash and burn. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19210 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On August 20 2016 06:39 tofucake wrote: Didn't preorder it. But I bought it and played 5 hours. This game sucks. This thread also sucks. Why do you think it sucks though? Did you buy it thinking it would be something else or you don't enjoy the exploration ? Because ive got 10 hours logged and i call bullshit on anyone saying it gets repetitive and theres nothing new to see before then. Also yeah this threads awful haha. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22311 Posts
On August 20 2016 06:42 Capped wrote: Why do you think it sucks though? Did you buy it thinking it would be something else or you don't enjoy the exploration ? Because ive got 10 hours logged and i call bullshit on anyone saying it gets repetitive and theres nothing new to see before then. Also yeah this threads awful haha. You cannot see how someone could get tired of harvesting resources so they can harvest more resources for 10 hours? | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
Expecting something to have substance in it is apparently off limits. | ||
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Duka08
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
When star citizen comes out people are going to lose their minds. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 20 2016 08:04 bo1b wrote: There is no surprise in me what soever that plansix is in this thread not only defending borderline fraud, but also an absolutely trash game. Expecting something to have substance in it is apparently off limits. I love you too Bo1. Every time I see you in a thread, I know its going to be a little love letter to me. I really appreciate your attention. | ||
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